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matese 12-16-2014 08:07 AM
Rewarding with frozen cut green beans
 
Ok so here’s my issue with frozen cut green beans. I got jealous watching Misa Minnie lol doing all her little tricks. Cody is a very smart 3 y/o boy so I started teaching him to roll over using frozen cut green beans as a reward. (don’t want to add weight while training) when he poops I find a few beans in the cut green beans in his poop. I bought Bird’s Eye frozen cut green beans. Seems he is not digesting the beans in the cut bean, is this normal? Well I just changed to rewarding with bits of fresh raw carrots, seeing a whole undigested bean scared me so I came to my YT family who advises giving frozen cut green beans as a filler, treat and / or reward. BTW he learned the roll over in one day with several 5 to 7 minutes training sessions during the course of one day, he is also very, very food motivated, will do most anything if food is offered as a reward lol…. So is a whole undigested bean from frozen cut green beans showing up in his poop normal?

Vereen 12-16-2014 09:33 AM
I can't answer your question directly, but just wanted to say I had concerns myself about a cut (thawed)green bean's digestibility. So instead I bought French cut green beans. They are sliced smaller and of course diagonally so I think they would go down better.

maxsassy 12-16-2014 01:30 PM
I buy cans of tiny whole carrots at Kroger's and that is what Amy gets as a special treat. Take two out of the can (which I have poured into a plastic container with the water drained off) and my husband cuts them into 4 pieces and she gets two from each of us. They leave nothing in her stool cause they are so soft.

ShowGirlLola 12-16-2014 02:11 PM
Lola doesn't have that problem and my mom gives her like 6 frozen green beans every night.

Btw you shouldn't watch Misa, Cess gets payed for the views.

Maximo 12-16-2014 02:17 PM
If he swallows them whole, I am not surprised a large piece came out. When training, my boys tend to swallow the reward whole, never chewing anything. Knowing this, I keep rewards really small.

Plus, you don't want to give too many green beans or carrots and risk overdoing the fiber in his diet, causing gastro issues. My boys do not digest carrots well at all, so I don't use them. We have had a couple of scary incidents with gas, so I am careful with veggies in general. Every dog is different though.

WannaBe 12-16-2014 04:09 PM
I've gone the frozen green bean route, found undigested beans in the poop too. Now I make my own dried turkey hearts. Buy them at the meat packing house, grade A human, slice them very thin and dry them. I doubt they have any calories and my two will do anything for one. I break them in tiny pieces too, yummy.

matese 12-16-2014 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ShowGirlLola (Post 4514093)
Lola doesn't have that problem and my mom gives her like 6 frozen green beans every night.
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Btw you shouldn't watch Misa, Cess gets payed for the views.

2 days ago it was splattered all over. Every picture I went to view of someones pup there was Misa, but now that I know she gets paid, not gonna watch anymore videos. Thanks for that heads up........I only give cody 4 or 5 cut beans a day for training and the seeds show up:confused:

gracielove 12-16-2014 05:56 PM
I have read that dogs can't really digest whole vegetables. I don't know what study they got that from but obviously your dog is having issues so I guess it is best to try something else.
Gracie gets freeze dried 100% meat treats. She will do about anything for them. The ones we get are quite small so a couple a day is not going to ruin her diet. She always gets them when I finish grooming her and putting her topknot in.

matese 12-16-2014 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4514097)
If he swallows them whole, I am not surprised a large piece came out. When training, my boys tend to swallow the reward whole, never chewing anything. Knowing this, I keep rewards really small.

Plus, you don't want to give too many green beans or carrots and risk overdoing the fiber in his diet, causing gastro issues. My boys do not digest carrots well at all, so I don't use them. We have had a couple of scary incidents with gas, so I am careful with veggies in general. Every dog is different though.
I am very strict when it comes to foods. Cody only eats kibble, no table food, I was rewarding him with kibbles and giving him less at meal time. He eats at 7AM, at 12 noon I was giving him 4 or 5 cut beans, then eats at 5PM, a unlimited ingredients treat at 9PM and that's it. When I started this roll over training I started with the kibble, then switched over to the cut beans a few days ago. Yesterday I started with the fresh raw carrot, just small peice, that he chewed, the cut beans he swallows, no chewing. I was concerned about to much fiber food, but didn't know that can cause gastro issues. I check his poop all the time, for firmness, moisture, worms. I will try french cut beans next week see how that woks, His stool is firm with the cut beans, just was passing a full bean seed. I'll continue the carrots for now, I guess if he starts to pass excessive gas is an indication all veggies should be stopped.

matese 12-16-2014 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Vereen (Post 4513963)
I can't answer your question directly, but just wanted to say I had concerns myself about a cut (thawed)green bean's digestibility. So instead I bought French cut green beans. They are sliced smaller and of course diagonally so I think they would go down better.
Thanks for your in put, I will try that next week. I started him on fresh raw carrots today, no more cut beans for him.

matese 12-16-2014 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by maxsassy (Post 4514073)
I buy cans of tiny whole carrots at Kroger's and that is what Amy gets as a special treat. Take two out of the can (which I have poured into a plastic container with the water drained off) and my husband cuts them into 4 pieces and she gets two from each of us. They leave nothing in her stool cause they are so soft.
Thanks for this suggestion, guess I have to make sure no salt is added to canned carrots.

matese 12-16-2014 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WannaBe (Post 4514128)
I've gone the frozen green bean route, found undigested beans in the poop too. Now I make my own dried turkey hearts. Buy them at the meat packing house, grade A human, slice them very thin and dry them. I doubt they have any calories and my two will do anything for one. I break them in tiny pieces too, yummy.
You are a good mom, I am a bad cook, sounds like a really great treat, Cody would do hand stands for sure if he was offered turkey hearts as a treat. Thank you for this suggestion.

matese 12-16-2014 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4514171)
I have read that dogs can't really digest whole vegetables. I don't know what study they got that from but obviously your dog is having issues so I guess it is best to try something else.
Gracie gets freeze dried 100% meat treats. She will do about anything for them. The ones we get are quite small so a couple a day is not going to ruin her diet. She always gets them when I finish grooming her and putting her topknot in.
The next time I am in Pet Supplies or Pet Smart I'll look for this, now getting kinda nervous about giving fresh veggies. Here I thought I was rewarding him with healthy foods when I can be causing him gastro issues. Thank you for the heads up.

Maximo 12-16-2014 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4514184)
I am very strict when it comes to foods. Cody only eats kibble, no table food, I was rewarding him with kibbles and giving him less at meal time. He eats at 7AM, at 12 noon I was giving him 4 or 5 cut beans, then eats at 5PM, a unlimited ingredients treat at 9PM and that's it. When I started this roll over training I started with the kibble, then switched over to the cut beans a few days ago. Yesterday I started with the fresh raw carrot, just small peice, that he chewed, the cut beans he swallows, no chewing. I was concerned about to much fiber food, but didn't know that can cause gastro issues. I check his poop all the time, for firmness, moisture, worms. I will try french cut beans next week see how that woks, His stool is firm with the cut beans, just was passing a full bean seed. I'll continue the carrots for now, I guess if he starts to pass excessive gas is an indication all veggies should be stopped.
Most Yorkies seem to do okay with the veggies, but some are sensitive like my boys and have issues like loose stools or gas -- not passing the gas is the problem. Max was writhing in pain one night because he had a buildup of gas, and Teddy we took to the ER once because he was crying and yelping. We thought he had injured his back, but it was gas. That is why I always tell people to take it slow when introducing veggies and just be aware.

matese 12-16-2014 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4514195)
Most Yorkies seem to do okay with the veggies, but some are sensitive like my boys and have issues like loose stools or gas -- not passing the gas is the problem. Max was writhing in pain one night because he had a buildup of gas, and Teddy we took to the ER once because he was crying and yelping. We thought he had injured his back, but it was gas. That is why I always tell people to take it slow when introducing veggies and just be aware.
Because I do not deviate from Cody's diet is the reason when I feed him something new, I give him just a little bit, not wanting to upset his digestive system. Thanks for this information. So far his stools have been normal, I started with the carrot this morning, just a small amount. He usually makes his last poop at bed time 11PM, since I always pick up after him I always check his stool and will do so tonight since he ate a bit of carrot. Thank you again.


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