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Dual Potty Training? Outdoors AND pee pads? Is this possible? I think I've heard of "dual potty training" (NOT sure if that was the right word, it had dual in it though) where owners use both outdoors and pee pads? Would it be harmful or alright if a pup was taken outdoors during the day, but because of the pup's age, use a pee pad for overnight accidents until he/she is old enough to "hold it"? Just wanted to know what your thoughts were on this. :) |
Sheldon does both with no issues at all. I'd say with the exception of the occasional crate accident overnight, he is completely trained, never goes on my floor. |
I have had issues with potty training in general....but especially when i introduced potty pads when Ricky came along. Ricky was used to using potty pads in the winter and he gets cold easy. Prince went outside. When I first got Prince, he wasn't very "potty trained" but he was by the time I got Ricky. As soon as I started with the potty pads, it was like it gave Prince the license to pee inside wherever he wanted....and it hasn't changed since. Ricky, uses them, but often thinks he's on the pad and misses. I've invested in 2 carpet cleaners that get daily workouts and I want to get rid of my carpeting. I got both of my dogs as adults...one was about 1.5 years old, the other was 7 years of age as was a former stud dog. He also lived in a pack of yorkies. If I had to do it all over again, I would either a.)litter box train my dogs or I would b.) buy one of the crates that has a potty area(the name is escaping me but they are beautiful and have a wood frame with potty area on one side and a bed/food/play area on the other). I would train them to use that so they had to go inside that certain fenced in area to go potty. |
A lot of pups can get confused with doing both at the same time. |
My last yorkie Brandi (RIP) did both potty pads and outdoors. I trained her on the potty pads for days that I was at work. She was a rescue and I did not want her to be crated as she had spent most of her life in a crate. I wanted her to have the freedom to roam the house. As soon as she was potty pad trained she had free reign. Potty pad training definitely has its advantages. I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to take her out. However she had no problems with pottying outside as well and she didn't get confused at all. It really is the best of both worlds. |
I trained Teddy to go on pads but when we go for a walk he goes outside - no problem. |
i have 2 yorkies one is a 3 year old male that ive had since he was a baby and i have him dual trained he goes on his weewee pad that is in the corner and he'll go outside to he hasn't had an accident in like 2 years and i just recently got a new female puppy and i am training her to do the same she was a little tough to train but its because she has had some medical issues so i cant blame her but she is coming around an having less accidents. so i think it can be possible you just have to have a lot of patience and treats to praise them when they get it right. |
Max and Teddy are both pad and outdoor trained. They have a pad at home at all times, but they know other houses and indoor areas are off limits. I think it can be risky at home to have the pad only at certain times. If the pad appears and disappears, this might be confusing. |
For those who have successfully dual potty trained, how did you do it? Any tips/tricks? |
Ziva feels more comfortable going on a pad so I slowly moved it to the garage. She will go outside as long as it is light out and nice weather. Rain or dark she uses the tray in the garage. |
I had to keep them blocked in one area of the house at first and I had a weewee pad in one corner and when I would see them doing there potty dance and start to go I would pick them up place them on the weewee pad and say peepee here. And once they finished I would praise them and give em a treat. It does take some time for them to get it. Keep the pad in the same spot all the time so they know to go back to it. And eventually they started going there on there own so when I saw that I'd praise them more to reinforce that they were doing the right thing. My little one who is 7 months old is doing real good she barely has accidents on my floor. And I find that the sprays that they sell at the store claiming it'll attract them to the pad don't work so don't waste your money. As they do good I open another part of the house to them and let them get used to that and so on until they can roam the house without having accidents. Patience is key. |
How would I accustom the pup to going on the pad only at night (as opposed to taking him outside in the middle of the night), until the pup's bladder gets large enough for him/her to "hold it"? I would give him/her a potty break before bedtime (I usually sleep at about 10:30, 11 pm) and would take him/her out again at around 7:00 am. So for through the night: I'm planning on using an exercise pen, with the floor covered with newspaper, put the crate in one end, leave the door open, and put a puppy/pee pad near the door. Would that work? For those of you wondering: "Why don't you just take him out?", our neighborhood can be a bit scary at night. |
Ours use both. We have puppy pads in three places. Our bathroom upstairs, our bedroom ( hardly used) and in their playpen downstairs. I'm disabled so can't move fast, so it wouldn't be fair on them to have to hold it. This summer, we took their used puppy pads outside, while we played out there, then praised them when they used it. Last we just left some of their poop outside...praised them when they went outside. Now during the day, they ask to go out. Mostly that works for us. They are fine with pads and outside. |
Sophie Kate is both pad and outdoor trained, it was a lot of work. She finally was trained with the "go potty" command and once that was mastered the pads went down and we started using the command with placing her on the pad. I would suggest if you do use a pad keep it down all the time and in the same place (moving them confused her). Also Sophie Kate does not like a dirty pad so we change our once they are dirty once (I know some people use the same pad all day, I can't). I use washable pad from T Bumpkins, they are the best quality pads and they last forever. We have a rather large variety to chose from (that is for my pleasure, Sophie Kate is not picky on the pattern). |
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Puppies learn that there is a designated area for potty. I would not cover the entire floor of the pen with newspaper. Use the disposable potty pads with the scent infused in them. Quote:
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Both my boys are trained for both, I will not take them out at night or in the rain. The puppy loves to be out in the rain, he's my little maniac, but between frogs, snails, and slugs I won't take the risk. The only negative thing about the pads is the puppy isn't learning bladder control because he can go on the pads whenever he wants. My older male did the same thing as a puppy and it took him a little longer to learn to hold it instead of squeezing out a dime size pee on every pad. I feel that the potty training has been a lot easier since he's been using the pads and we only have an accident inside 10% of the time. Pretty good, in my opinion, for a 15 week old. The only part of potty training on pads I hate is that I have to have pads in every corner but when he starts to learn to control himself I will start removing one pad at a time until we are down to two pads. My older Yorkie was down to one pad at about 1 year old. |
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I don't think pads affect learning bladder control. Max always had a pad, yet when he was neutered at 6 months, he held it after surgery for a few hours until he got home. In fact, he screamed his way out of the vet's office. They wanted to keep him overnight, but he was desperate to get home to his pad. When we got home, he sprinted to his pad and peed a lake. :D Even when he was younger than 6 months, we couldn't take him away from home for too long because he wanted to get home to his pad. That was the only downside to pad training for us -- Max thought he could not go outside. Silly boy. |
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I don't think I'll be using the pads for a long duration.... I might just use them until the pup learns to "hold it" through the night. How would I encourage "holding it", and at what age was Max old enough to "hold it"? Would you all recommend using washable or disposable pads? |
The length of time the dog is able to hold it is individual to each dog. Also depends on how long you sleep at night. When Max was a 13 week old puppy, he would use the pad at about 11 - midnight when we went to bed. He often used it again by 5 am. The are pros and cons to both disposable and washable pads. |
I agree that a "potty command" word is the best idea. Mine get very excited when they hear "outside" and I use the command word when we are outside also. Then at night before bed if it's very late I will take them over to the pee pad and say the word and they know to pee right away. It takes some persistence But they catch on quickly. My older boy always pee'd right on the edge of the pad. Drove me nuts bc it always got on the floor. Luckily mine is in the kitchen which is tiled. You could also put a tarp down on the carpet and put the pad on top of that to prevent your carpet being ruined. |
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I say "do pee pee" lol... As soon as they are outside and sniffing I start saying it and when they do it then I praise them. Also I snap my finger and point at the pee pad and say "do pee pee" and it's funny actually bc they know when I snap and point that they are supposed to pee. I did it every time I put them on the pad... Honestly it sometimes takes up to 10 minutes in the beginning (inside) I rewarded them with lucky charms cereal... Not the marshmallows just the actual cereal. They loved those so I would bring the box out and it would motivate them more when they were playing dumb. Also sometimes if they aren't used to going outside it may take a few trips before they know what to do outside. But once they take that first pee outside they are hooked lol. |
I used a professional trainer to teach Sophie Kate the command, I only observed but what she would do is start saying the command when Sophie Kate would start sniffing like she was looking for a spot. Once she went she would get a lot of "good girls" and a high value treat (in our case it was a Cheerio). Now 5 years later I still issue the command and she gets a ton of praise every time just to reinforce it. |
"Go sniff" is the command here. I once won $10 from DH because he couldn't get one of the pups to pottie,due to rain. He told me that you cannt make a dog poop on command. I took pup out ,under an umbrella, said "go sniff" ,dog squatted and pooped. We went inside. I got a free coffee or two at Starbucks. Only Tilly will use a pad. Its there for all of the girls,they all know what it is,but Kenzie and Mina think that they are two grown up for such things. |
I think I will have to use both methods (outdoors and puppy pads)--the winters can get pretty harsh here in MO. Last year and the year before that, we had TONS of snow. Usually we get 18+ inches of snow per winter. How long did your pups take to master the "Go Potty" command? Which would you recommend training for first--outdoors, or puppy pads? Do the scent-infused puppy pads actually work? |
Tilly is just now really getting the hang of pottie pad inside,not floor. She has understood "go sniff" (our command) for quite a while. The scented disposibles didn't work here because she wanted to play with them and tear them up,not good because they have plastic on them. I have washable pads. Theses are actually waterproof pads from the baby store,alot less money. I started out rubbing the new fresh pad on the old one before I removed it. They stay in her crate with the door open. You should of seen her face the first time she tried to tear a washable pad up. |
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I cannot remember how long it took for Sophie Kate to learn the command, I do know it was not right away and I had to remember at first to say it even if she went before I said the command (once I noticed she was going I would say the command). I started with outside first and we were having a hard time getting it correctly. This is why we brought in a professional trainer and had her evaluated (problem was I was not keeping a schedule). It seemed that once she understood the command the inside Pad part came easy, just placing her on the pad and stating the command. Remember at first the most important thing to remember is do not move the pad. |
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