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montgomerym 09-15-2014 08:52 AM
Debark referral for San Jose, Stockton, Modesto, area
 
I have been trying to get my little girl Sofi to stop barking and have tried everything. I want to stay in my home and so I need to get her debarked or I am going to lose her. Can anyone give me a referral of a vet that does it in my area. I love her.

chachi 09-15-2014 08:59 AM
First you have to decide if you are being fair to her by making her not be able to bark which is a natural thing for a dog to do just so you get to keep her. Im not trying to lecture you but you really need to think about it. Its like making a human unable to talk. Is that fair to her.

Nancy1999 09-15-2014 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by montgomerym (Post 4487080)
I have been trying to get my little girl Sofi to stop barking and have tried everything. I want to stay in my home and so I need to get her debarked or I am going to lose her. Can anyone give me a referral of a vet that does it in my area. I love her.
Have you tried a trainer? Some are better than others. This thread really helped Joey. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...h-barking.html. The idea is to allow a little barking and then reward them for being quiet. I have much more control over his barking than I once did. What triggers Sofi? Noises or sights, or both. I would try using one of the sound machines to block noise and curtains etc. to block sights. On of the bad things about debarking is sometimes there's is still quite a bit of noise when the dog barks and it sounds really awful. Many people regret having it done. What does you personal vet say about it? I think I'd call several trainers and see if they work with barking dogs, and then I let my landlord know I hired a trainer and wanted to try this before doing the surgery. Remember that the trainer will teach you how to train, you're the one that actually has to practice. To answer your question though, I'd ask my vet for a referral.

Please listen to this Youtube.

What a "debarked" dog sounds like, starring Molly - YouTube

YorkieTherapy 09-15-2014 09:12 AM
I believe it's illegal in California.

YorkieTherapy 09-15-2014 09:20 AM
Sorry, accidentally posted reply before I was finished.

I believe it's illegal in California for landlords to require tenants to declaw or debark their pets to cut down on noise or property damage.

Nancy1999 09-15-2014 09:22 AM
This video has some great advice.


How To Quickly Stop Dog Barking - YouTube

chachi 09-15-2014 09:30 AM
I really believe as Nancy has stated you can train them not to bark I havent done it but if I were in your situation I would be very motivated to do it

Lovetodream88 09-15-2014 09:34 AM
I do not ever think it is fair or there is a good enough reason to debark a dog. It's cruel. If you have tried several trainers and none of them have worked I would look into rehoming her.

Nancy1999 09-15-2014 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4487097)
I really believe as Nancy has stated you can train them not to bark I havent done it but if I were in your situation I would be very motivated to do it
I'm not sure you can completely eliminate barking, but you can gain some control over it and reduce it greatly.

Faboosh 09-15-2014 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieTherapy (Post 4487091)
Sorry, accidentally posted reply before I was finished.

I believe it's illegal in California for landlords to require tenants to declaw or debark their pets to cut down on noise or property damage.
Maybe so, but it happens all the time. We just had a next-door neighbor go through giving up their dog last year over it. Also, if a dogs barking receives multiple complaints, the dog can be removed from the home by the city/county, after the owner receives multiple fines. Aside from being a nuisance for the neighbors, it's incredibly stressful to live with a dog that barks that much.

My step-daughters Pom-Chi has a MAJOR issue with barking and while I never thought I'd ever advocate for de-barking, I have to say in some cases it is a last resort necessity. Some dogs are just not trainable, especially if their barking is psychologically related. We've taken this dog to vet, I don't know how many times, put her on medication, she tried the barking collar, crate-training, calm-eze chews, thundershirts... Some dogs just bark excessively and I won't fault OP for looking into this, especially if she's looked into other solutions.

Best of luck to you and your dog, OP.

Lovetodream88 09-15-2014 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Faboosh (Post 4487102)
Maybe so, but it happens all the time. We just had a next-door neighbor go through giving up their dog last year over it. Also, if a dogs barking receives multiple complaints, the dog can be removed from the home by the city/county, after the owner receives multiple fines. Aside from being a nuisance for the neighbors, it's incredibly stressful to live with a dog that barks that much.

My step-daughters Pom-Chi has a MAJOR issue with barking and while I never thought I'd ever advocate for de-barking, I have to say in some cases it is a last resort necessity. Some dogs are just not trainable, especially if their barking is psychologically related. We've taken this dog to vet, I don't know how many times, put her on medication, she tried the barking collar, crate-training, calm-eze chews, thundershirts... Some dogs just bark excessively and I won't fault OP for looking into this, especially if she's looked into other solutions.

Best of luck to you and your dog, OP.
Did you try anxiety meds? Or a behaviorist?

WannaBe 09-15-2014 09:52 AM
I had a friend that got her shelties debarked. If the dog barks after the procedure chances are the dog will regain the ability to bark again. You have to keep them from barking for a couple of weeks. It isn't very effective, and I highly doubt you will be able to find any vets willing to perform such a procedure. Good luck to you. I would hate the thought of losing my boy because of his barking. Is he barking because he is lonely while you are gone? Maybe you can get someone to come to your place to watch him while you are at work? Or maybe drop him off with a neighbor while you are working? There are lots of ways to keep him without such a drastic measure.

lynzy420 09-15-2014 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Faboosh (Post 4487102)
Maybe so, but it happens all the time. We just had a next-door neighbor go through giving up their dog last year over it. Also, if a dogs barking receives multiple complaints, the dog can be removed from the home by the city/county, after the owner receives multiple fines. Aside from being a nuisance for the neighbors, it's incredibly stressful to live with a dog that barks that much.

My step-daughters Pom-Chi has a MAJOR issue with barking and while I never thought I'd ever advocate for de-barking, I have to say in some cases it is a last resort necessity. Some dogs are just not trainable, especially if their barking is psychologically related. We've taken this dog to vet, I don't know how many times, put her on medication, she tried the barking collar, crate-training, calm-eze chews, thundershirts... Some dogs just bark excessively and I won't fault OP for looking into this, especially if she's looked into other solutions.

Best of luck to you and your dog, OP.

First of all, the last resort should not be to debark an "animal"....if you love that "anima"l as a family member then your last resort should be to rehome the "animal"....I just don't understand why people can be so selfish and heartless....are we going to start decrying our babies next...this is just sad.

Faboosh 09-15-2014 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4487105)
Did you try anxiety meds? Or a behaviorist?
It's not my dog, I just live with the dog. She's 22 and just graduated college. I've been begging her to put the dog on actual anxiety medication (something I learned about here. Gotta say, I've learned an awful lot here that I've shared with her), but she's afraid of changing the dogs personality. IDK why, the dog's actually not very pleasant to be around LOL.

If it were my dog, I would have done both things MONTHS ago and her dad and I have offered to pay for those things. I think because the full responsibility of it hasn't affected her (she isn't home enough to be bothered by it, I am however) and once she moves out in November, I think it'll start hitting her when the complaints start kicking in.

One can only hope, but hey, YAY ME I won't have to hear it anymore! :D

Nancy1999 09-15-2014 09:55 AM
The thing of it is, when people say they have tried everything, they may have not tried to do everything the right way. Training is difficult. It's really easy to reward the wrong behavior. Also, most people get anxious when their dogs bark and the dogs sense this anxiety and it causes them to bark more. That's why getting a real expert can be so helpful.


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