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chachi 08-27-2014 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4481648)
Bad breeders usually try to have smaller tiny yorkies because they make them more money when selling them. Most reputable breeders only occasionally have a really tiny yorkie so a lot of the smaller tiny yorkies population is from bad breeders. When you have dogs by bad breeders a lot have health problems. That's why it would seem like a lot of tiny yorkies seem to be sick. There is no misinformation. Bad breeders don't do the genetic testing or put the care into there breeding as reputable breeders do so most of the time that equals a pup with some kind of issue. How that is false info I have no idea but whatever.
There have been no studies indicating that so I will just have to go buy what I have observed and that fact. We will just have to agree to disagree

shelbysmom 08-27-2014 02:59 PM
A reputable breeder may have a tiny available but it's not something they try for. More work, more worry and not the best examples of the breed. Some are definitely very cute but spending the money to show them would be a waste since you can't use the tiny females for breeding. If you want a tiny one get on a waiting list with and excellent breeder and wait. (and wait and wait) You will have to prove you are worthy but it can happen.

mimimomo 08-27-2014 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4481652)
There are diseases common to yorkies that smaller yorkies can get. Do smaller yorkies get these conditions more commonly than a larger yorkie there are no studies to indicate they do. The only disorder I have found where the smaller yorkie might be more susceptible to getting is hydrocephalitus and you dont even hear of smaller yorkies having that very commonly
I'm trying to say that there are diseases that stunts growth.

kreuer 08-27-2014 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4481652)
There are diseases common to yorkies that smaller yorkies can get. Do smaller yorkies get these conditions more commonly than a larger yorkie there are no studies to indicate they do. The only disorder I have found where the smaller yorkie might be more susceptible to getting is hydrocephalitus and you dont even hear of smaller yorkies having that very commonly


I never said smaller yorkies are more likely than larger yorkies to get sick. I said more smaller yorkies tend to come from bad breeders which is why we tend to hear about it more in smaller yorkies. I also believe a larger yorkie coming from a bad breeder is also more likely to have problems. When I was researching breeders in my area, I would say about 80-90% of them where selling "teacups". There are just so many of them out there, just statistically speaking you are going to see more of them with problems. But, this is all my opinion! I don't have any statistical research to back this up, just what I have personally seen.

mimimomo 08-27-2014 03:00 PM
Like most of the majority is saying here, getting a quality puppy from a reputable breeder would be the best route, esp if you're wanting a smaller pup. Reputable breeders will not purposely breed for tinies, it will sometimes happen in a litter.

Unethical breeders will use tiny females (3#'s & under) to get the tiniest puppies possible...to me, this is inhumane & animal cruelty.

Lovetodream88 08-27-2014 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4481652)
There are diseases common to yorkies that smaller yorkies can get. Do smaller yorkies get these conditions more commonly than a larger yorkie there are no studies to indicate they do. The only disorder I have found where the smaller yorkie might be more susceptible to getting is hydrocephalitus and you dont even hear of smaller yorkies having that very commonly
A few weeks ago there were like three threads in the sick section about pups with hydrocephalus.....

Lovetodream88 08-27-2014 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4481654)
There have been no studies indicating that so I will just have to go buy what I have observed and that fact. We will just have to agree to disagree
Depends what you would consider a study. I am going by facts and then by my own experience of being on this board.

chachi 08-27-2014 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4481657)
I'm trying to say that there are diseases that stunts growth.
What diseases and what studies that this is happening commonly with smaller yorkies

Lovetodream88 08-27-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kreuer (Post 4481659)
I never said smaller yorkies are more likely than larger yorkies to get sick. I said more smaller yorkies tend to come from bad breeders which is why we tend to hear about it more in smaller yorkies. I also believe a larger yorkie coming from a bad breeder is also more likely to have problems. When I was researching breeders in my area, I would say about 80-90% of them where selling "teacups". There are just so many of them out there, just statistically speaking you are going to see more of them with problems. But, this is all my opinion! I don't have any statistical research to back this up, just what I have personally seen.
Exactly where I am coming from.

shelbysmom 08-27-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4481654)
There have been no studies indicating that so I will just have to go buy what I have observed and that fact. We will just have to agree to disagree

Well according to the YTCA they are more at risk. Since they are responsible for maintaining the standard of this adorable breed I am going to take their word for it.

http://www.theyorkshireterrierclubof...1335Teacup.pdf

chachi 08-27-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4481662)
A few weeks ago there were like three threads in the sick section about pups with hydrocephalus.....
I saw one and this is a small representative of the yorkie population

Lovetodream88 08-27-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4481661)
Like most of the majority is saying here, getting a quality puppy from a reputable breeder would be the best route, esp if you're wanting a smaller pup. Reputable breeders will not purposely breed for tinies, it will sometimes happen in a litter.

Unethical breeders will use tiny females (3#'s & under) to get the tiniest puppies possible...to me, this is inhumane & animal cruelty.
:thumbup::thumbup:

Lovetodream88 08-27-2014 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4481667)
I saw one and this is a small representative of the yorkie population
Like I said I am also going with personal experience, facts and my own research thrown in with a little common sense.

mimimomo 08-27-2014 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4481664)
What diseases and what studies that this is happening commonly with smaller yorkies
I linked it...I'm not understanding where you're coming from...maybe I'm misunderstanding?

Hydrocephalus in Toy Breed Puppies | VCA Animal Hospitals
Are certain breeds more likely to develop hydrocephalus?

Small, miniature, and toy breeds seem to be more affected. These breeds as well as brachycephalic dogs (those with shorter faces), include the Boston terrier, Chihuahua, English bulldog, Manchester terrier, Pekingese, toy French poodle, and Yorkshire terrier.

chachi 08-27-2014 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4481673)
I linked it...I'm not understanding where you're coming from...maybe I'm misunderstanding?

Hydrocephalus in Toy Breed Puppies | VCA Animal Hospitals
Are certain breeds more likely to develop hydrocephalus?

Small, miniature, and toy breeds seem to be more affected. These breeds as well as brachycephalic dogs (those with shorter faces), include the Boston terrier, Chihuahua, English bulldog, Manchester terrier, Pekingese, toy French poodle, and Yorkshire terrier.
Well I said hydrocephalis but how commonly is it found in small yorkies and they are saying more common in small breeds not small yorkies


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