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matese 08-16-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimic (Post 4477554)
Thanks for answering guys.

The pup doesn't have to be completely black, but I just wondered if I had chose the pup in the litter with the most black on, whether it would stay the darkest puppy as an adult (compared to its siblings and the shades it COULD potentially fade to)

Black and auburn sounds nice! I know their faces do tend to change to the brown colour and the back lightens to a silvery grey. I was just wondering if the back would stay darker in a puppy that was very dark to start with?

As it would be a pet rather than showing it, it would probably be kept trimmed in a puppy cut. I'd learn to do it myself and just trim it as it grows to save having to cut huge amounts off at once.

Does whether the coat is trimmed and how it's cut make a difference to the colour? ..For example if you grew the puppies coat right out as if for showing with the long silky hair do they tend to go lighter? As I don't believe I've ever seen a darker coat in the dogs with really long coats. All the pics I've found of yorkies with a darker coat seem to be in a 'puppy cut'. I wasn't sure how much of that was the dogs age at the time of the photo? ..or keeping it short keeps the darker hair in for longer?

Does anyone have a photo of their adult dog that has stayed 'darker than average' ..the black/auburn one sounded really nice too?

Thanks very much for your advice.

Mimi

If you go to my album there is a photo of my Matese, thing is, the auburn color doesn't show up well in the photo, I am on my lap top, my photos are kept on my desk top computer. She is now past, I have a favorite one of her hunting and stalking, that shows her beautiful black body, I will find it and send to you.

matese 08-16-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 4477604)
It is not easy to tell on a young puppy how light or dark it will be. You best bet with be to get with a breeder that does not sell their pups to young. If a puppy starts breaking to a light color on their head at a early age, say around 8 to 12 weeks then that is a sign that they may go light. Also, on older pups, say around 12 weeks, if they are showing signs of turning grey on their shoulder hair at the roots or on the belly hair then you know they won't stay black.

Some yorkies do stay black, even into adulthood. Over the years I have had very few yorkies that stayed black. I have one female that stayed black and I have posted a picture of her. She was around a year old when that picture was taken. She ended up with a cottony coat. She is now 8 years old and she is still black. Her head did clear more. When I shave her, her coat is still black. Most of your silky coated yorkies that change from black to steel blue will look a lot lighter when they are cut down.

I don't think their sex really has anything to do with if they go light or stay dark. It is all in their genetics.

You most likely won't see any black yorkies in the show ring because it is considered a fault here in the USA. In Europe some of the dogs do tend to be darker.

This pic looks so much like my 2nd baby, Kajon, the first black one with beautiful auburn face, yours is a lil beauty.

matese 08-16-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimic (Post 4477554)
Thanks for answering guys.

The pup doesn't have to be completely black, but I just wondered if I had chose the pup in the litter with the most black on, whether it would stay the darkest puppy as an adult (compared to its siblings and the shades it COULD potentially fade to)

Black and auburn sounds nice! I know their faces do tend to change to the brown colour and the back lightens to a silvery grey. I was just wondering if the back would stay darker in a puppy that was very dark to start with?

As it would be a pet rather than showing it, it would probably be kept trimmed in a puppy cut. I'd learn to do it myself and just trim it as it grows to save having to cut huge amounts off at once.

Does whether the coat is trimmed and how it's cut make a difference to the colour? ..For example if you grew the puppies coat right out as if for showing with the long silky hair do they tend to go lighter? As I don't believe I've ever seen a darker coat in the dogs with really long coats. All the pics I've found of yorkies with a darker coat seem to be in a 'puppy cut'. I wasn't sure how much of that was the dogs age at the time of the photo? ..or keeping it short keeps the darker hair in for longer?

Does anyone have a photo of their adult dog that has stayed 'darker than average' ..the black/auburn one sounded really nice too?

Thanks very much for your advice.

Mimi

The pic of her stalking she is 9 y/o...the pic of her hiding a toy in my planter she is 12 y//o....the pic of her with a nasty toy in her mouth, she was told "not in the house" she is 15 y/o she had indoor and out door toys.

Bellabean 08-16-2014 03:24 PM

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Bella is 19 months and still black with brown legs and a mixed face. She is a cotton coat.

Batgirl38 08-16-2014 04:05 PM

When I google black yorkies it always come up as a mix. Poodle and yorkie (Morkie)
Unless you just meant black on the body

bjh 08-16-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bellabean (Post 4477668)
Bella is 19 months and still black with brown legs and a mixed face. She is a cotton coat.

Bella is cute. She reminds me a little of my Gigi.

bjh 08-16-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4477657)
The pic of her stalking she is 9 y/o...the pic of her hiding a toy in my planter she is 12 y//o....the pic of her with a nasty toy in her mouth, she was told "not in the house" she is 15 y/o she had indoor and out door toys.

She was a pretty girl. It sounds like she had a good life.

matese 08-16-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bellabean (Post 4477668)
Bella is 19 months and still black with brown legs and a mixed face. She is a cotton coat.

Bella is beautiful, I love the face color. On my Matese's AKC papers, the color stated was blue, what does your AKC papers have as for the color.

matese 08-16-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 4477701)
She was a pretty girl. It sounds like she had a good life.

Thank you, she was a beautiful girl, she weighed in at 17 lbs lol, she had a gorgeous sleek body, I try to give all my babies the best life I can. She had to be put down at age 17 y/o.

R-Teddy 08-16-2014 06:59 PM

I have seen lately alot of pictures online of pups that look like yorkies but are mainly white or white and black. I keep wondering if they are true yorkies. Owners claim they are.

crazydoglade 08-16-2014 08:45 PM

I have a male and female, full siblings. Elvis is 7 and Izzy is 6. Both have black bodies and golden/tan heads. Their coats aren't quite silky but not cottony. Both far fraom the standard,lol but loved anyway. I've only had them about 2 1/2 years so don't know what to look for in a puppy to maintain the dark colors. I'm assuming that since they both have similar colors that it must be genetic and would look at what the parents look like then decide.

Mimic 08-16-2014 10:02 PM

Thank you to everyone who has replied. Sorry for the delay in my replies but the forum does not let my reply go straight on and several others have answered by the time my reply is showing. It's very frustrating as I can't acknowleged each reply individally.

I'm not sure how to check out people's abums and whether I can message them privately yet as I'm new?. I have enjoyed seeing the little pictures people attach to the bottom of their messages.

One last question as they'll probably be another page by the time my reply goes up!

If I decided to look for adult dog (rescue) at what age would the dog stay dark from? eg if it was still dark black on back/ darker brown at 1 yr old would it be likely to stay that dark? ...or after 2 yr old?

I know most dogs have mainly matured by 2 yr old (medium breeds) but thought I'd read that toy breeds matured quicker and are considered adult around 9 months? ..so would they coat change colour after they had reached the age they are recognised as 'adult'?

Sorry if I've missed any questions to me, it's very frustrating that my replies are so far behind I seem to have to keep waiting for all my posts to be approved so they aren't going up in the correct sequence to show when I actually answered!..I'll check back later!



Thanks

Mimi

bjh 08-17-2014 07:49 AM

Have you ever owned a yorkie? They are wonderful little dogs but they do have all kinds of different personalities. Again I stress that you should not just focus on color. You could find a dark yorkie but it might have all kinds of health issues or it might not have the kind of personality you like. Some yorkies are very active and busy all the time while others are very laid back and just want to lay in your lap. You need to consider your life style and what you really want in a yorkie. It is hard to know what kind of personality a puppy will have. Sometimes by the time they are 12 weeks old you can have a fairly good idea.

As for color, some yorkies change color early and others might take a couple of years. I would think you would have a good idea of the color by the time the pup is 6 months old.

One other trick that you might find helpful is to have a breeder take a picture of the pup with a flash so you can actually see the eye shine of the puppy. Usually by the time the puppy is 12 weeks old you can see the color of their eye shine. Every dark coated dog I have ever had has a eye shine that is red or orange. Keep in mind that the coat will be cottony or soft coated. Cottony coats are not that easy to take care of. Most people will keep them cut short.

Now if you want a yorkie with a beautiful dark steel blue silky coat the eye shine would be green or blue. A eye shine that is gold usually indicates the coat will go light.

matese 08-17-2014 08:37 AM

I have had 4 yorkies as puppies, all 8 weeks old when I got them 2 were the standard color, 2 were black body with auburn face and legs my last black body girl had a tuft of white hair on her chest, she was 17 lbs as an adult, she lived to be 17 y/o, all were energetic babies, all were full of charm and all had their own personalities, all were extremely playful and active until they were 9 y/o when they started to slow down. All were very healthy as young pups, health issues started as they got older 9 and 10 y/o. I really do not think the color of a yorkie indicates health issues,but that's just MO. I am by no means a yorkie expert, just what I have experienced in owning 4 yorkies that I raised from 8 weeks old.

bjh 08-17-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4477920)
I have had 4 yorkies as puppies, all 8 weeks old when I got them 2 were the standard color, 2 were black body with auburn face and legs my last black body girl had a tuft of white hair on her chest, she was 17 lbs as an adult, she lived to be 17 y/o, all were energetic babies, all were full of charm and all had their own personalities, all were extremely playful and active until they were 9 y/o when they started to slow down. All were very healthy as young pups, health issues started as they got older 9 and 10 y/o. I really do not think the color of a yorkie indicates health issues,but that's just MO. I am by no means a yorkie expert, just what I have experienced in owning 4 yorkies that I raised from 8 weeks old.

I agree. I was not trying to suggest that a darker color would indicate health problems. I meant that when looking for a yorkie it is important to also consider health and personality.


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