Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4472270)

To answer your question generally no. What I was talking about in main were Rare Breeds. ANd hey Rare means just that Rare. As breeders we source our breeding dogs from many countries, and place our puppies and breeding dogs all over the world, and yes in the USA. The breed I breed has maybe 24 breeders in all of Canada and maybe triple that in the USofA.

I have posted in the past - right now in the largest City in Canada, we have less than 50 dogs in shelters waiting for adoption. This is a city of approximately 4million folks. Of course the caveat is and is always is with dog statistics there is no confidence on accurate reporting, as there are no laws and no 0verseeing independent body that requires audited numbers.

And we Canada took in many many dogs from Hurricane Katrina, and of course the rate of heartworm went up, those poor dogs have been through so much. So yes Canada imported compassionately many dogs that were victims of Hurricane Katrina. My point is, if there are regions where south or north of the border one or the other have dogs that could fulfill a need and be placed, why shouldn't dogs cross the border for placement.

That might explain why a 300,000 number imported into the USA was reported by the Dept of Agriculture. Of course again the caveat is I have not been able (yet again!!!) to source this number from the Dept of Agriculture.

And now to answer your first question - do breeders do screening of course we do! And probably just like in the US of A the screening protocols will vary by state by agency, by individual breeder. I can tell you that the SPCA in Montreal had no flocking idea how to screen a good buyer for the breed I breed. They had probably never ever seen even one before they assumed responsibility for the largest seizure anywhere for our breed. And that number was 19 dogs!!!!!!!!

As you might know I am active in my own breed rescue. I screened quite deeply applicants. And we have some rigorous requirements. First and foremost is the commitment to continued obedience training for our dogs. And yes vet check references et al. They must demonstrate that they have a trainer in place and a willingness to do the training. Ideally they have owned and trained working dogs before. They commit to never sending their dog to a shelter, but back to us the rescue. They commit to heartworm preventatives, and appropriate and timely vet care. And we follow up....

And I will place my puppy in any qualified home. Why? Because I don't expect after my vetting of the application and my contract provides for provision that if anything goes wrong send the puppy/adult back to me!!

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4472283)

OK I am really confused. You say there are only 50 homeless dogs there. So WHY would 300,000 have been exported to the US? Or how? If you don't have a problem, where did they come from??

As to regions in the US needing dogs???....I hardly think given the 2.7 million dogs that are euthanized yearly here, that we really need a lot of dogs from another country. There are groups that transport to other states that need more...I have concerns about that as well but at least it is not coming from another country. In my mind, to hell with people who want one that they could find here...makes me bad? OK..I will wear the bad badge with pleasure. I am sick to my stomach over the amount of dogs we kill here.

Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4472358)

Common Questions about Animal Shelters : The Humane Society of the United States


How many animals enter animal shelters each year? And how many are euthanized?

The HSUS estimates that animal shelters care for 6-8 million dogs and cats every year in the United States, of whom approximately 3-4 million are euthanized. At this time, there is no central data reporting agency for animal shelters, so these numbers are estimates; however, the Asilomar Accords method is gaining momentum as a standard for more accurately tracking these numbers. Annual statistics for approximately 150 shelters across the country are posted at asilomaraccords.org. You can help us develop a more accurate picture of the problem by encouraging your local shelters to report their data.
In the 1970s, American shelters euthanized 12-20 million dogs and cats, at a time when there were 67 million pets in homes. Today, shelters euthanize around 2.7 million animals, while there are more than 135 million dogs and cats in homes. This enormous decline in euthanasia numbers—from around 25 percent of American dogs and cats euthanized every year to about 3 percent—represents substantial progress. We will make still greater progress by working together to strike at the roots of animal overpopulation.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4472281)

I want proof of heartworm prevention with past dogs (

Originally Posted by AlecM (Post 4472830)

Just curious, how would you get proof of heartworm prevention? I buy Shelby's online and administer @ home - doubt I have all the eReceipts....

Originally Posted by AlecM (Post 4472830)

Just curious, how would you get proof of heartworm prevention? I buy Shelby's online and administer @ home - doubt I have all the eReceipts....

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4472831)

Does your vet give you a prescription for it? That is one way and yes, good to save receipts. Also, do you test for heartworms yearly? That is not proof, but it is good to do.

Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4472358)

Common Questions about Animal Shelters : The Humane Society of the United States


How many animals enter animal shelters each year? And how many are euthanized?

The HSUS estimates that animal shelters care for 6-8 million dogs and cats every year in the United States, of whom approximately 3-4 million are euthanized. At this time, there is no central data reporting agency for animal shelters, so these numbers are estimates;

Originally Posted by swan (Post 4472963)

Here are links to the tax returns filed by the HSUS; they are not estimates.

2011
http://media.newsnet5.com/uploads/WE...011Form990.pdf

2010

http://media.newsnet5.com/uploads/WE...010Form990.pdf

2009

http://media.newsnet5.com/uploads/WE...009Form990.pdf

If you don't feel like reading the IRS tax returns the audit is essentially this.

Over the three year period the HSUS raised over $509,000,000 of which 5% was spent on grants and programs inside the United States.

HSUS CEO Wayne Pacelle earned over $260,000 in 2011

HSUS contributes more dollars to its own pension fund than to pet shelters.

My head is upright thank you, my eyes are wide open.

Originally Posted by swan (Post 4472968)

$509,000,000 dollars every three years divided evenly amongst all the local shelters could probably save each one of those pets euthanized in the United States unnecessarily.

Originally Posted by swan (Post 4472967)

Ladyjane, I think you and I can both agree that just one, healthy, happy, pet euthanized in a shelter is a sickening disgrace. It troubles me as well.

We should support our local animal shelters who do make a big difference and we also need to support our local, reputable breeders that are getting hammered by new laws that don't solve the problem that lead to shelters being overwhelmed.

Originally Posted by swan (Post 4472968)

$509,000,000 dollars every three years divided evenly amongst all the local shelters could probably save each one of those pets euthanized in the United States unnecessarily.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4473003)

I know my local animal shelter and I know that they HAVE to euthanize animals. There are not enough people to adopt them ... that is the problem.

I don't follow you on the support of breeders....what does that have to do with lowering the numbers of homeless animals?

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4472831)

Does your vet give you a prescription for it? That is one way and yes, good to save receipts. Also, do you test for heartworms yearly? That is not proof, but it is good to do.