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Choke Chain collars? Hello all. I need some advice, especially from those who have done the obedience training with your babies. Do any of you use choke chain collars for training? See I Usually use harnesses for Athena ( now 22 weeks/ 5 months old), but the trainer says that harnesses teach dogs to pull and its harder to train them with harnesses. she Likes to use choke chains. I am nervous however about using any kind of collar on a leash because I have heard so much about collapsed trachea and how collars can help contribute to that. According to my reserch on the web, Yorkies are suppose to be more prone to collapse trachea's. The trainer, who is also a good friend of my daughter thinks I google too much...ROFL .....Could be true. Sometimes goggling is bad. Its not that I think she is wrong, its that I dont know, and I dont want my baby hurt, so I want to know for certain, or at least relatively certain if it is safe. She has just started obedience training and we eventually want to start agility training her. |
Years ago, we adopted an 85 pound adult Airedale who came with a choke chain collar. She wore it all of her life. She rarely pulled. I would never allow any dog to wear one again. You can google the potential negative health side effects that go beyond potential damage to the neck. I strongly disagree with trainers who believe harnesses train dogs to pull. If choking a dog with a collar is required, then the dog is not really being trained. |
We use the PetSafe Easy Walk Harness for training purposes. It has the D-Ring on the front of the chest which gives us a little more control for heeling training. Nothing is on the throat either. :thumbup: For Sachi, the smallest size was still to big so my husband modified it and added an extra D-Ring on the top. So now, we can actually clip her harness on the chest or on the top. |
You are right and no, you haven't been googling too much....yorkies are more prone to collapsed tracheas and walking them with a collar or choke chain can cause or exacerbate this. I've seen it with my own eyes...yorkies pulling on collars, honking away because they can't breathe. I grew up using choke chains for obedience and I would NEVER use a choke chain on my 5-7 lb yorkie, knowing what I do now about trachea's. If your dog starts pulling....you simply stop walking, turn around and walk the other way. Eventually, the dog will learn that pulling not only gets them nowhere...but it gets them even farther away from the thing they are pulling towards. You don't need a choke chain to do this. PLEASE don't use a choke chain on your yorkie....and I am not saying this because I am against using choke chains...I am saying it because you should never use a collar or a choke chain to walk a yorkie period because of the danger of collapsed trachea. |
I would never use one on any dog let alone a yorkie. Training them that way is lazy in my opinion it just teaches them if you pull this is going to choke you so you can not breathe it certainly does not seem humane to me. Dogs can be 100% trained when using a harness. I would find a different trainer asap. |
Never ever. No need for them. You own the brain, you own the dog and no strong neck pinchers or choking mechanisms are necessary. Training doesn't require choking or pinching aversives to teach your dog to obey you when positive reinforcement is far easier and fun for everybody and works far better. And if you put one of those horrible collars on a dog with a neck or trachea problem, your dog is probably going to suffer serious complications. |
We have one toy poodle and two yorkies and we successfully use a harness with each of them. |
OK yeah my gut told me not to use a choke, but I just wanted to get the opinion of others as well.. I to dont like using a collar of any kind on Athena or my Shih Tzu Zeus, only harnesses. I do put collars on them loosely, but only for identification tags if they got out the door or something, I never attach a leash to them or pull on them in any way. In fact I took Athenas collar off before her training started just so the trainer would not be tempted to use it. Athena is microchipped to, but I still have to get Zeus micro chipped. The trainer does not insist on using the choke collar, its just what she usually uses. but she didnt refuse to train her on a harness. |
yearsss ago I use to use reg. collar on my yorkies, back then vet never said not to use, one of my girls was a puller, after years of pulling she started to cough, I took her to the vet, collapsed trachea from the constant pulling, I was devastated that I caused this to happen, even tho I didn't know this could happen. There were no computers back then, no internet to research, after that, collar for tags only. Never use a collar let alone a "choke" collar on any dog let alone a lil breed. |
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