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I can't imagine inbreeding as an acceptable thing, at all. Whether it be father to daughter, or grandfather to granddaughter. I think of my pets as part of the family, and it just seems gross to breed family just to keep the lineage "pure". IMO, I wouldn't breed related Yorkies. It just seems....ew. |
Id does not matter if you linebreed, inbreed, or do a complete outcross. You need to understand genetics and have a game plan. Just beacuse you have a male and a female it does not mean that these two dogs will compliment each other. Breeding is like being a chef- you have to mix just the right ingredients to come up with that special baby. Too much of this- or not enough and poof you have a disaster. That is why many breeders have more then one male or you see them going to another breeder to breed their females. You can't always stay inhouse to have the perfect recipe. |
The genetics for dogs is the same as humans in this regard. The problem is this--if a brother and sister both have a bad gene that is not dominant, no problem. But with both parents having that gene, there is a chance that gene will be dominant in their baby, you have a problem. Will every puppy from a bother and sister have a problem? No. But why take the chance when it is not necessary? The risks far outweigh any rewards. My opinion in short--don't do it. |
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If you are looking for a breeding pair, you are definitely not going about it correctly. by stating "if" and "when" i get the idea that this is what you are intending. Do not breed a brother and sister. Do a little more research and find yourself a female non-related from a breeder who is willing to help you along the way. I would not place siblings in the same home unless one of them was altered. Best wishes, |
This post reminded me of something I haven't thought about for years. Many years ago, I worked at a mental institution. There was a young boy patient there. He was moderately retarted - severly cross-eyed, crippled, and had many other physical anomalies that impaired his health in many ways. Just looking at him and trying to talk with him, you could tell that he had severe mental and physical problems. I am certain that he is spending his entire life in that institution and will never be able to leave. He was the product of incest - his parents were a brother and sister. Carol Jean |
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[Father and Daughter is OK. I have researched this with AKC years ago. AKC will accept only Father & Daughter. Breeders who show do, do this. Actually grandfather to granddaughter is better than father/daughter. Don't kid yourself. AKC will register ANYTHING as long as both sire and dam are AKC registered. Some show breeders will do this......because it brings out the best and WORST in your lines. If a breeder wants to see what genetic faults are in the line, a brother-sister breeding will show it. I did a half brother-half sister breeding once. All it took. I had bad stifles in this litter. Placed all the pups in pet homes (after spay/neuter) and although I bred the dam again, I looked for a male that would balance out her fault of weak stifles (grade 1). I certainly would not do an in-breeding again. And DEFINITELY if this is your fist litter run, don't walk away from this. Julie |
That is plain incest and comes with a lot of problems in the future since there genes can backfire on you. I won't even advocate father, daughter or grandfather and grand daughter breeding. Hello, there are far too many yorkies out there. |
This is what we have found true about breeding close relatives especially in the horse business: If it works and the breeder gets the results they desire, then it is a wonderful thing, the breeder is preserving the purity of the line, and the process is called LINE-BREEDING. If the breeder DOES NOT get the results they desire and wind up with a genetic toilet :eek: then it is IN-BREEDING and all too ften the resulting pups, horses, etc. are quietly destroyed to protect the breeder's reputation. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you are going to breed, find an unrelated female to mate your male with. |
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Regardless inbreeding is not for a newbie - linebreeding can be a valuable tool for the experienced breeder who knows what they are doing. but they are |
I don't know much about breeding, but I have brother and sister from the same litter and when Bubba was 6 months old, I got him neutered! It just seemed weird to me?? |
I'm not a breeder, but I have a degree in microbiology and work with genetics. It is not a matter of opinion that inbreeding is bad. It is scientifically a fact. Don't do it. If you want more specific information, feel free to PM me and I can explain it to you. Thanks for asking, though. A lot of people are just like "eh, i'll just try and it out and see" |
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A friend of mine bought 2 golden retreivers a couple of years back (brother and sister from the same litter) from a breeder here and she was so exited thinking that she could breed these dogs and become a milionare with the pups (some people are just plain dumb).They were BEAUTIFUL pups and grew into beautiful adults and although we (me and others) warned her not to let them breed,she went ahead and did it anyway. The pups seemed fine at first (there were 11 of them) but at 10 weeks old 7 of them still werent walking and another 3 still hadent opened their eyes.By the time they were 4 months old,8 of them had to be put down because their spine was too short and their back legs hadent grown since birth,also,3 were blind.The 3 that survived were very strange looking and did the weirdest things,to me they seemed retarded? |
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