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Maximo 05-07-2014 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4433327)
But if I fed my dogs an imbalanced diet for 3 weeks, they would likely become seriously ill. I trust my vet when he tells me this.
I should add that I do not buy food at my vet's office. My vet and I have never discussed what my boys eat under normal conditions, so he isn't trying to sell me food.

We discussed how long Teddy could be on a bland diet before there would be concern about an improperly balanced diet.

Lovetodream88 05-07-2014 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4433053)
Poor Callie. I'm so glad you get her the help she needs. You're an amazing owner.
Thank you :D

Lovetodream88 05-07-2014 07:54 PM
My problem with all the holistic pet foods is most of them do not have vets or vet nutritionists on staff and they don't test the foods so honestly you don't know how really good that kind of food is for your dog and it's not as trustworthy. That is why I switched to royal Canin Yorkshire Terrier if that made Callie break out or itch then I was going to talk to my vet about the small breed hypoallergenic food which my vet had suggest we try if Callie continued to have itchy break out problems after the allergy meds and stuff.

chestermama 05-07-2014 10:59 PM
chester is a itchy dog at times and has sensitive skin, he has enviromental allergies, he is on grain acana chicken and , before that sundancer from solid gold. If the Benadryl helps that it is not food antihistamine will not change a food allergy. I use all free and clear for laundry, no dryer sheets or anything, no fragrant plug ins, no carpet powder, vacuum a lot, and have a good air cleaner. I use vinegar and water on my laminate floors good luck

matese 05-08-2014 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chestermama (Post 4433436)
chester is a itchy dog at times and has sensitive skin, he has enviromental allergies, he is on grain acana chicken and , before that sundancer from solid gold. If the Benadryl helps that it is not food antihistamine will not change a food allergy. I use all free and clear for laundry, no dryer sheets or anything, no fragrant plug ins, no carpet powder, vacuum a lot, and have a good air cleaner. I use vinegar and water on my laminate floors good luck
thank you

megansmomma 05-08-2014 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chestermama (Post 4433436)
chester is a itchy dog at times and has sensitive skin, he has enviromental allergies, he is on grain acana chicken and , before that sundancer from solid gold. If the Benadryl helps that it is not food antihistamine will not change a food allergy. I use all free and clear for laundry, no dryer sheets or anything, no fragrant plug ins, no carpet powder, vacuum a lot, and have a good air cleaner. I use vinegar and water on my laminate floors good luck
This is exactly what we have been telling you......an anthihistmine needs to be tried. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

pinkpatty 05-08-2014 06:02 AM
Keno has spring allergies to pollen, he chews at his feet and his eyes matter up. I rinse his feet every time he goes out and wash his face. Also feed Royal Canin prescription hypoallergenic for a month or so. Then I change back to Royal Canin Special. Also bath weekly in Oatmeal Shampoo. Seems to work for him. I know many people find Royal Canin to be over priced but I have used for my past three dogs with excellent results.

BBBentley 07-26-2014 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4433175)
Here's Natural Balance LID page: LID Limited Ingredient Diets Dry Dog Formulas - Natural Balance Pet Foods

NB is a potato or sweet potato heavy food...lots of potato can be a problem for yeasty dogs bc sugary foods are fuel for the yeast. So it would be a good idea to rule out yeast by doing a skin scraping. It's a very simple test, they take a skin sample & look under the microscope. An experienced Vet will be able to see right away if it's bacterial or yeast or both & treat it accordingly.

BTW, Nature's Variety is a very busy food, lots of different ingredients, def not a limited ingredient food.

Instinct Limited Ingredient Food for Dogs and Cats | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats

BBBentley 07-26-2014 03:19 AM
I know this post is couple months old my vet recommended Natures Variety. They Do have a Limited Ingredient line or Royal Canin Hydrolyzed Protein hoping you have already found relief for your baby

Instinct Limited Ingredient Food for Dogs and Cats | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats


Hypoallergenic HP Small Breed Dog Food | Veterinary Exclusive

mimimomo 07-26-2014 09:01 AM
Good to know that Nature's Variety has a limited ingred line...hope your pup does well on it!:)

navillusc 07-26-2014 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BBBentley (Post 4470469)
I know this post is couple months old my vet recommended Natures Variety. They Do have a Limited Ingredient line or Royal Canin Hydrolyzed Protein hoping you have already found relief for your baby

Instinct Limited Ingredient Food for Dogs and Cats | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats


Hypoallergenic HP Small Breed Dog Food | Veterinary Exclusive
No offense intended...just quoting to avoid lots of typing on the tablet...ugh...LOL

..but...

Anything hydrolyzed or autolyzed contains 'msg'...free unbound glutamates...which are excitotory neuro toxins (as is aspartame)...in case anyone doesn't know. I looked up the ingredients in the hydrolyzed product and have no interest personally. I would not feed "brewers rice" or "hydrolyzed soy protein" (oh, and the soy is quite possibly genetically modified to be "Round-up Ready" and able to survive being sprayed with the pesticide) to a 'carnivorous' animal as it's primary ingredients.

Finding a food that meets your need and the dog's tastes can be quite tricky. To investigate foods, you may want to research each ingredient to see IF you want your Yorkie...or even yourself...to eat it...AFTER you know what it is.

Good luck in your search. I hope you can discover the cause of the itching, and eliminate it so the sweet baby gets much needed relief.

matese 07-26-2014 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BBBentley (Post 4470469)
I know this post is couple months old my vet recommended Natures Variety. They Do have a Limited Ingredient line or Royal Canin Hydrolyzed Protein hoping you have already found relief for your baby

Instinct Limited Ingredient Food for Dogs and Cats | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats


Hypoallergenic HP Small Breed Dog Food | Veterinary Exclusive
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4470591)
Good to know that Nature's Variety has a limited ingred line...hope your pup does well on it!:)
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Originally Posted by navillusc (Post 4470612)
No offense intended...just quoting to avoid lots of typing on the tablet...ugh...LOL

..but...

Anything hydrolyzed or autolyzed contains 'msg'...free unbound glutamates...which are excitotory neuro toxins (as is aspartame)...in case anyone doesn't know. I looked up the ingredients in the hydrolyzed product and have no interest personally. I would not feed "brewers rice" or "hydrolyzed soy protein" (oh, and the soy is quite possibly genetically modified to be "Round-up Ready" and able to survive being sprayed with the pesticide) to a 'carnivorous' animal as it's primary ingredients.

Finding a food that meets your need and the dog's tastes can be quite tricky. To investigate foods, you may want to research each ingredient to see IF you want your Yorkie...or even yourself...to eat it...AFTER you know what it is.

Good luck in your search. I hope you can discover the cause of the itching, and eliminate it so the sweet baby gets much needed relief.
Thank you all for your in put and concern.

megansmomma 07-26-2014 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by navillusc (Post 4470612)
No offense intended...just quoting to avoid lots of typing on the tablet...ugh...LOL

..but...

Anything hydrolyzed or autolyzed contains 'msg'...free unbound glutamates...which are excitotory neuro toxins (as is aspartame)...in case anyone doesn't know. I looked up the ingredients in the hydrolyzed product and have no interest personally. I would not feed "brewers rice" or "hydrolyzed soy protein" (oh, and the soy is quite possibly genetically modified to be "Round-up Ready" and able to survive being sprayed with the pesticide) to a 'carnivorous' animal as it's primary ingredients.

Finding a food that meets your need and the dog's tastes can be quite tricky. To investigate foods, you may want to research each ingredient to see IF you want your Yorkie...or even yourself...to eat it...AFTER you know what it is.

Good luck in your search. I hope you can discover the cause of the itching, and eliminate it so the sweet baby gets much needed relief.
All three of mine are now on the Hydrolyzed Protein food because there was nothing else out there that worked for Pebbles. She's been eating it for several years and has only had an occasional normal itch. Before this she was scratching herself silly constantly. I personally thing that RC is an excellent food and I'll continue to recommend this formula because it was a life saver for my girl. As for researching each ingredient in the food that is pretty much impossible. How would someone even begin to to something like that :confused:

navillusc 07-26-2014 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4470688)
All three of mine are now on the Hydrolyzed Protein food because there was nothing else out there that worked for Pebbles. She's been eating it for several years and has only had an occasional normal itch. Before this she was scratching herself silly constantly. I personally thing that RC is an excellent food and I'll continue to recommend this formula because it was a life saver for my girl. As for researching each ingredient in the food that is pretty much impossible. How would someone even begin to to something like that :confused:
It is a monumental task...one I started over 20 years ago 'in detail' looking for clean foods for us and our pets. I research the manufacturing process, where raw materials are sourced, read medlines, even read the MSDS sheets to see what dangers must be disclosed to workers who handle the product...and what precautions they must take. This is amazing...the MSDS...sometimes...compared to what the product is to be used for.

I expect everyone to do as they think best or have the ability to do...I would...so should they. I only mention such things 'because' I already found out...usually with great difficulty and much time spent...and if I can prevent anyone from going through that research like I had to, maybe it is useful info to someone else, too.

I am glad it works for your little ones.

BBBentley 07-27-2014 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4470591)
Good to know that Nature's Variety has a limited ingred line...hope your pup does well on it!:)
I feed Royal Canin Hydrolyzed Protein a mix of dry and wet do second guess it with the wet containing "carrageenan" (read it caused inflammation but he hydrolyzed protein is recommended for dogs with IBD ) and wasn't so sure about the Brewers rice or soy and really no meat but it seems to be working.


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