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LoriML 05-06-2014 08:48 AM

I paid $800 for my not registered male. It was a fairly decent price for this area, no papers, and a male. Obviously papered and females go for more. I would have loved to get money back for neutering, he's having that done this month and it will be quite alot of money between that and I'm assuming he might need a couple teeth extracted. His mom though, got eclampsia and had an emergency spay at birth and couldn't nurse the pups, so I may have paid more so the mother could recoup some vet fees...

Rosies Mamma 05-06-2014 09:01 AM

When we got Rosie she was bought for £250 because she had no papers but her parents did, i'd say you could charge around ( i converted this ) £340

pinkpatty 05-08-2014 07:40 AM

Rescue charge 250.00 to 450.00 depending on the amount of money they have invested in the dog for medical and boarding costs. Puppies without papers or known background with no medical costs involved should be sold for no more than 400.00. I personally do not know why anyone would pay more than 100.00 for a mixed breed puppy. That should cover the cost of breeding and raising the puppies. Designer dogs are just that mixed breed puppies. If people did not fall for this nonsense of paying 1200.00 for a mixed breed designer dog then maybe back yard breeders and puppy mills would quit breeding them.

Boncuk 05-08-2014 08:44 AM

I bought mine for $350 with no papers. I got him on Craigslist.. both parents were pure breeds without papers. Most rescues in my area are $150-300.

gemy 05-08-2014 08:59 AM

Here is what I suggest you do; first do some math - add up all your vet bills for caring for the Mom and the puppies - document it, then add in the cost of misc supplies and food. Divide by the number of puppies - and that is your cost per dog.

Get the answer which will help you justify the selling price on these puppies. Without papers and coming from an admitted puppy mill you can not claim they are purebred, you believe that they are, but can't prove it.

Also emphasize to the purchasers because the health history of the parents and their lineage is unknown it is highly recommended to buy pet insurance that covers genetic defects.

I would also have available with in my state the nearby reasonable spay and neuter clinics run by the SPCA or other organizations for the purchaser to go to get this done. Then offer a reasonable $$ refund on purchase price for proof of spay and or neuter.

Once you have all these details then you can not only reasonably justify the price of the puppy to yourself but to the purchasers.

Then you set the price - Your narrative on your selling ad explains your rescue, your dedication in the care and well-being of the pups, the regular vet visits etc. For qualified purchasers I am asking this $$$ amount - a purchase contract will be issued with spay and neuter being a requirement.

Chloebethmorris 05-09-2014 11:34 AM

Thanks to everyone for all the advice - my puppies will go to homes & people that have signed a puppy contract & Part of that contract will require that they be spayed or neutered by 7 mo of age or else the puppy comes back to me. They will be sold as pet only. As for not being sure as to whether they are 100% purebred - while I do not have actual proof of that - I do have my wonderful vet's opinion that they appear to be 100% full Yorkie & I am debating doing DNA test so there will be no doubt :)

gemy 05-09-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chloebethmorris (Post 4434200)
Thanks to everyone for all the advice - my puppies will go to homes & people that have signed a puppy contract & Part of that contract will require that they be spayed or neutered by 7 mo of age or else the puppy comes back to me. They will be sold as pet only. As for not being sure as to whether they are 100% purebred - while I do not have actual proof of that - I do have my wonderful vet's opinion that they appear to be 100% full Yorkie & I am debating doing DNA test so there will be no doubt :)

Vets opinion is okay but is not authorative on a purebred status. At the most the vet can say is that they "look" in line with what a purebred puppy looks like in their opinion. The DNA testing is also not a legal option , it is at this point in time still not definitive enough to ascertain purebred status.

Like it or not, you should not claim that they are "purebred" you can state that in your belief and opinion these puppies seem to be the result of a litter produced by two Yorkies - (again the parents were not papered with a reputable registry so hey who knows?)

Cherie6446 05-09-2014 01:01 PM

Another thought. Why not add an extra charge to be refunded when proof of spaying/neutering are sent back to you. People say what you want to hear all the time and then do what they want.

Lovetodream88 05-09-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chloebethmorris (Post 4434200)
Thanks to everyone for all the advice - my puppies will go to homes & people that have signed a puppy contract & Part of that contract will require that they be spayed or neutered by 7 mo of age or else the puppy comes back to me. They will be sold as pet only. As for not being sure as to whether they are 100% purebred - while I do not have actual proof of that - I do have my wonderful vet's opinion that they appear to be 100% full Yorkie & I am debating doing DNA test so there will be no doubt :)

Honestly a vets word nor a DNA test is not a 100% but what I would keep in mind is puppy mill pups do not have good lines so these pups in the future could develope genetic illnesses and that's why I would not charge an excessive amount for them and would keep it in mind when picking the family's and when pricing them. Contract is good.

Rosies Mamma 05-10-2014 08:32 AM

$340 i mean :D

Chloebethmorris 05-10-2014 09:49 AM

InQUOTE=pinkpatty;4433544]Rescue charge 250.00 to 450.00 depending on the amount of money they have invested in the dog for medical and boarding costs. Puppies without papers or known background with no medical costs involved should be sold for no more than 400.00. I personally do not know why anyone would pay more than 100.00 for a mixed breed puppy. That should cover the cost of breeding and raising the puppies. Designer dogs are just that mixed breed puppies. If people did not fall for this nonsense of paying 1200.00 for a mixed breed designer dog then maybe back yard breeders and puppy mills would quit breeding them.[/QUOTE]

I would have to disagree - maybe $100 would cover the cost if u tossed the Momma in a cage outside, let her labor on her own & likely die during whelping, feed her the cheapest possible food & provide absolutely no vet care to mom or puppies......just MAYBE there would be $100 or less invested in the cost of raising the puppies.
I did NONE of those things and Never would, I couldn't lay down & sleep at night doing that. These puppies have had the best possible care, more $$ spent than I could afford...but I did it bc they deserved to live. And not only live, but to be given the best possible vet care, food, love, etc. To the tune of somewhere between $2500-3000, and that's prob still a low estimate. So while i do not want or expect to make $$ off these puppies - i also cannot afford to sell them for $100 apiece. U have the right to your opinion, as we all do, I also have the right to mine .....and I know that while I do not know the full history of their Momma Trixie - I DO know that since the night I drove to another state & got her & 2 days later when her 5 babies were born they have had as great, & probably better, care than some of the so-called breeders who are in fact just another puppy mill. I know that my puppies are In much better health than a puppy born & raised in a puppy mill. Even fully registered, papered dogs with champion bloodlines : there's no guarantee that those dogs will be any healthier than anyone else's.... Yes the odds may be greater, but again there's no guarantee they won't develop issues.

Lovetodream88 05-10-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chloebethmorris (Post 4434635)
InQUOTE=pinkpatty;4433544]Rescue charge 250.00 to 450.00 depending on the amount of money they have invested in the dog for medical and boarding costs. Puppies without papers or known background with no medical costs involved should be sold for no more than 400.00. I personally do not know why anyone would pay more than 100.00 for a mixed breed puppy. That should cover the cost of breeding and raising the puppies. Designer dogs are just that mixed breed puppies. If people did not fall for this nonsense of paying 1200.00 for a mixed breed designer dog then maybe back yard breeders and puppy mills would quit breeding them.

I would have to disagree - maybe $100 would cover the cost if u tossed the Momma in a cage outside, let her labor on her own & likely die during whelping, feed her the cheapest possible food & provide absolutely no vet care to mom or puppies......just MAYBE there would be $100 or less invested in the cost of raising the puppies.
I did NONE of those things and Never would, I couldn't lay down & sleep at night doing that. These puppies have had the best possible care, more $$ spent than I could afford...but I did it bc they deserved to live. And not only live, but to be given the best possible vet care, food, love, etc. To the tune of somewhere between $2500-3000, and that's prob still a low estimate. So while i do not want or expect to make $$ off these puppies - i also cannot afford to sell them for $100 apiece. U have the right to your opinion, as we all do, I also have the right to mine .....and I know that while I do not know the full history of their Momma Trixie - I DO know that since the night I drove to another state & got her & 2 days later when her 5 babies were born they have had as great, & probably better, care than some of the so-called breeders who are in fact just another puppy mill. I know that my puppies are In much better health than a puppy born & raised in a puppy mill. Even fully registered, papered dogs with champion bloodlines : there's no guarantee that those dogs will be any healthier than anyone else's.... Yes the odds may be greater, but again there's no guarantee they won't develop issues.[/QUOTE]

She said mixed breeds should be no more then $100 she never said yours should be $100 she said yours should be no more then $400. Because your pregnant female came from a puppy mill it's more likely her pups will have health issues that is not your fault it is the fault of the puppy mills because they will breed anything and they don't care if there healthy or if there lines are free of genetic illnesses like reputable breeders. I hope they are lucky and don't have issues but even if they do they might not show up until there 2 years or older. Again this is not your fault you did the right thing by taking her and helping her and her puppies. I would start at asking around $400 with a spay and neuter contract and encourage the buyers to get pet insurance that covers genetic illnesses.

RandijK 05-10-2014 11:14 AM

My baby is full blood yorkie and her Mom and Dad are registered but she's not and I paid $250 for her. I have saw all the papers on mom and dad and also still take my baby to the same vet that has taken care of mom, dad and her since she was born.

Zikidiqui 05-10-2014 11:25 AM

If mom and dad are registered WHY would someone not register the litter?? I know they sold the pups for a very low price but I wonder why.

RandijK 05-10-2014 11:43 AM

The lady told me that she had sold the other 3 from the litter and this was the last one, is the reason I got her for 250, and as far as papers, well I didn't question it, that's just honestly something that didn't matter to me. I had my little girl spayed so she will never have puppies and I won't ever have her as a show dog so I don't feel like I need papers, but this is just me and I know everybody is different.


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