Spaying and neutering I just read a small article in Modern dog magazine that said neutered males are living 18% longer then non neutered males and spayed females are living 24% longer then non spayed females. Just thought I would share. |
I'll let my co-worker know this. Her little boy is over a year old and she has no interest in having him neutered. Her vet also advises her to have him neutered but she won't hear of it. |
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That is awesome :-) I am just getting ready to schedule Gizmos neutering tomorrow, as he will be six months on the 6th. He also has all of his baby milk teeth that never fell out, I think because he was so malnourished when I rescued him. He actually has 2 full rows of teeth between his canines on both top and bottom :-( |
Great Post! Very imformative to new Yorkie owners!!!! |
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Let's look at facts? Sorry but not so fast. Please post the article. And yes the statistics at first glance make it seem like it's a no brainer. But there are a lot of other factors to consider. It's really not so cut and dried: Snipped from here: Benefits and Risks of Neutering, An Evidence Update: Effects of Neutering on Longevity and Cause of Death in Dogs | The SkeptVet Blog "Several specific infectious diseases occurred with sufficient frequency to be analyzed individually. Sterilized dogs were at lower risk of death due to four of these five disease. However, these results are a bit more problematic than those concerning cancer risk. Unlike most cancers, the parasitic and infectious diseases listed are almost all completely preventable with proper vaccination or other preventative veterinary care. This raises the question of whether differences between sterilized and intact animals in these causes of death may be confounded by differences in the level of care they receive, in the socioeconomic status of their owners, in the time and place in which they lived, and many other variables not specifically addressed in this study. It is interesting that the same patterns in differences between cause of death in neutered and intact dogs were seen across many different breeds, each with their own specific risk pattern for particular diseases. Cancer, for example, appeared to be a more common cause of death in neutered compared to intact animals even in breeds with relatively low rates of cancer. This strengthens the idea that neutering is directly associated with the risk of such disease and also emphasizes the importance of considering the absolute, rather than relative risk, and the overall risk picture in any individual patient. In a nutshell - Spayed and Neutered pets are more likely to die from cancer and have many more serious ailments. Intact animals die more from trauma and infection. Now what are the reasons for this? Could be more dogs that are not fixed are out running free. That doesn't mean if you have a dog inside and cloistered it will be likely to have the same level of risks. The study isn't definitive. The cases taken from a teaching hospital so not representative of the overall population. Also please read this: Health Issues Linked to Spaying and Neutering Dogs UC Davis is well regarded. It's not as cut and dried as a one line statistic. Also WHEN you spay and neuter is starting to change. Educate yourself for your sake and your dogs, then make a decision. If someone tells me my dog is more likely to die of cancer, if I neuter; or die from an infection that I can immunize against, if I don't, I might consider the latter. Just wanting to offer more information for thought. |
a really good video. |
Spaying and neutering There may be valid reasons for spaying or neutering your dog but for the most part they are not supported by facts. What the issue amounts to in the end is it is a convenience for pet owners. Animals live longer if they are spayed or neutered? I seriously doubt it. It helps prevent cancer? Cancer is like every other fatal disease. If you live long enough you get something that kills you. Your male humps your leg? What the hell? You're the master or mistress. Just don't stand there and let him do it. My Yorkie, Raider, humps his fuzzy toys once in awhile but I don't have a problem with that. Now with those issues out of the way here's what I do know about castration, as we used to call it on the farm. By the way the female farm animals were never spayed as it was too costly to perform on female farm animals and besides they produced offspring, which we sold. Male farm animals were castrated, which by the way was done on the farm without anesthesia, which is inhumane but such is life on the farm and part of the production of meat. It was done for two reasons. 1. The animals gained more weight at a faster rate and 2. The meat was tender after they were slaughtered. What this translates to in your pet dog is spayed and neutered dogs tend to gain weight and they lose muscle tone. Since I don't want to have to monitor what Raider eats so he doesn't get fat I'm leaving him intact. If he gets cancer at 12 years of age or whatever and dies then it's not a big deal. In the end dogs are much like humans. They die at all different ages from all sorts of different reasons and in the end it doesn't matter much whether they die intact or not. In closing I want to touch on two issues here. The first one is if I thought neutering was such a good deal and helped you live longer and prevented cancer hell, I'd probably line up and have it done for myself. But I really don't think that's true at all. The last thought is a lot of people aren't rational at all on this subject. In fact I've run into a couple of downright nasty people when I've mentioned that I'm not neutering my dog. That's the big reason I'm not going to discuss the subject with anyone except the people on this forum. |
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Remember, the real reason there is such a push for spaying/neutering is not really for the health of the animal, but more bc of over population. If health of the animal were paramount, we wouldn't see S/N as often as we do. And yes, while spaying female dogs can help avoid certain cancers, it's still not the real reason to spay -- unless you also believe that we human females should spay ourselves in order to avoid cancers...!!!??? It's the same concept. Quote:
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I'm just teasing you. I'll admit to having Kaji neutered because it's convenient for me to not have him run off to chase a bitch in heat, what with living in a big city and all. Where I work, I almost run over 5 dogs on my way in, and at least another 5 dogs on my way out of the office due to careless dog owners who let their intact animals roam the streets. If I lived on a farm like you and Raider do, who knows, I might not have had him neutered either. It sure would make not having to monitor his weight due to his LP a whole lot easier for me. |
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http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...n-if-ever.html My thoughts on this subject have been formed by the "many" studies referred to in the links provided on the above thread. As well there is currently a study going on to research forthe Golden Retreiver - aka THe Golden Tumour dog. It will be a very important study of which one goal is to define the link or lack there of between cancer and spaying and neutering. I believe there are 5000 Golden Retreivers included in this study. This study once peer reviewed will provide (one hopes) some answers to important questions. Here are my present thoughts on spaying and neutering: 1. TIMING is important - most especially for Large Breed Dogs. I believe there is enough persuasive research on this to highly encourage the average person who owns a large breed to delay the S+N until the dog is Fully Matured. It is not just about cancer (although most especially for several large breeds it is-Golden Retreivers being a prime example), but the devastating effect on the joints of the large breeds when you spay and neuter too early. Note: Each breed of dog and each individual dog have different risk factors (only some of which is known). Nbb: I highly encourage pet owners to do their due diligence in researching the known for their breed health concerns. 2. OPTIONS - You the owner have some options to keep the good effect of the necessary sex hormones by alternatives to full S+N. Such as tubal ligation and vasectomies. Although in general most vets don't have much experience in these procedures. You the consumer would have to search hard to find a vet that does. 3. HEALTH BENEFITS: As an overall statement for male dogs of any breed there is no clear overwhelming health benefit. And some authors/scientists etc actually feel that the risks to the males outweigh the benefit. Females are more equivocal. Pyometra being an important risk factor in females over say 4yrs old or so, most especially "closed" pyometra. On the small breed dogs; I personally have not seen much research specific to S+N on small breed dogs. How-ever there is little risk to delay the S+N until after maturity, or at least to after boney growth closure. This could happen on a small breed as early as 7-8 mths but surely by 12 months old. And there is no guesswork involved; merely take a lateral view of the tibia, this is the last growth plate to close. If it is closed good to go ahead to S+N. Banfield Hospitals Inc. It would be nice to know the peer-reviewed research studies that support their position. Finally in closing I would like to see the AVMA and their Canadian counterpart to set up a Cochrane like institute to do the peer reviewed studies; it is past time that this is done. We in North America are quite myopic and seem to only look at North American studies, and not world wide studies. There is much exciting research going on for canines world wide. Let us spend our research dollars wisely to answer questions that have not already been asked and answered world wide. |
https://www.caninelifetimehealth.org...rLifetimeStudy Here is the link to the organization that is doing the GR study. Correction it is 3000 GR's. |
AVMA position on Mandatory Spay and Neuter https://www.avma.org/News/JAVMANews/Pages/090515j.aspx The AVMA policy on "Dog and Cat Population Control" has been revised to express the Association's nonsupport for regulations or laws mandating spay/neuter of privately owned, nonshelter dogs and cats. The Animal Welfare Committee recommended the changes to the policy, which reads, in part, as follows: "The AVMA does not support regulations or legislation mandating spay/neuter of privately owned, non-shelter dogs and cats. Although spaying and neutering helps control dog and cat populations, mandatory approaches may contribute to pet owners avoiding licensing, rabies vaccination and veterinary care for their pets, and may have other unintended consequences." The policy was adopted in November 2004 and considered by the AWC in accord with the five-year review directive. After review and discussion, committee members agreed that the AVMA should not support regulations or legislation mandating spay/neuter of privately owned, nonshelter dogs and cats for a number of reasons, which were provided in the background of the recommended policy changes. Although spay/neuter is an important part of effective population control programs, and may benefit individual dogs and cats if performed at the appropriate time, whether and when to spay/neuter specific animals requires the application of science and professional judgment to ensure the best outcome for veterinary patients and their owners. Prevention of unexpected litters; reduced incidences of some cancers and reproductive diseases; and prevention and amelioration of certain undesirable behaviors have been documented as benefits to spaying/neutering dogs and cats. However, potential health problems associated with spaying and neutering have also been identified, including an increased risk of prostatic cancer in males; increased risks of bone cancer and hip dysplasia in large-breed dogs associated with sterilization before maturity; and increased incidences of obesity, diabetes, urinary tract infections, urinary incontinence, and hypothyroidism. There are conflicting reports regarding euthanasia rates and animal control costs achieved in communities that have enacted mandatory spay/neuter. Mandating spay/neuter can increase canine, feline, and zoonotic disease risks because some people will attempt to avoid detection of their unaltered pets by failing to seek veterinary care So it seems so far the AVMA is in concurrence with the research I have posted before especially for large breed dogs. |
We have had 6 dogs growing up and all spayed a neutered and no issues as well as all the people we known have spayed and neutered dogs and I have never heard of anything happening that people are saying could happen if you spay and neuter I would like to see some percentages and what breeds, there age and so on. |
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Very interesting!! I am picking up my rescue (Terrier mix-not Yorkie) from the vet today after being spayed. Seven (7) puppies was a lot to take care of and adoping them out to good homes has not been an easy task. I still have 2 by the way! If I had left her on the streets of Houston no telling how many litters she would have had and then her offspring...so in my opinion regarding her I would say spaying is a good thing. My Yorkie who was spayed 3 1/2 weeks ago??? Now I'm not so sure. Will be coming back to this thread because my Chihuahua is next in line. |
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Do read the spay and neuter thread which contains a whole lot of links. In terms of your Yorkie, what is done is done. I don't know her age at the time of spay, but I do know that most vets promote spaying by 6ths old for females. I do hope things go well over the long term, and chances are that they will in terms of her health Your Chihuahua, I don't know the sex or age, but again do your health research on this breed. The thrust of my comments are geared to appropriate timing of S+N not so much to keep all dogs intact. There are many factors other than health concerns that a pet owner needs to honestly assess. IMO a most conservative stance would be to spay and neuter after growth plates close, in particular if you are un-willing or unable to do what is necessary to ensure unwanted matings. And again this overall recommendation is not breed specific, that, you need to research for your breed. |
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