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yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 06:42 PM
Dark poop after spay
 
My girl Cookie was just spayed Monday morning, and tonight she had a pretty dark poop. She isn't on any kind of painkillers and napped a lot today, but I'm guessing the napping is normal this soon after a spay, especially when I'm keeping her confined to a room where she can't run or jump up on anything. Does dark poop indicate blood in it or something? I have completely changed her over from Royal Canin kibble to Pedigree canned food since she had three teeth pulled.

Is this something to be concerned about at all?

Magnus 11-06-2013 06:56 PM
How long has it been since you changed her food? Before/After spay? I'm not an expert but it doesn't sound like anything's wrong. Is she eating and drinking normally? When she's awake, is she alert and playful? Are her gums moist and pink? If answers are yes, than she should be ok and darkness might be from the food. But just to be sure, I'd like to suggest you give your vet a call and ask. Never hurts to ask questions. :)

Also, have you checked the posts on dog food? I believe there are better quality dog foods compared to RC and Pedigree. I feed my two Blue Buffalo Life Protection for small breed.

Quadraphinic 11-06-2013 07:04 PM
Dark Stools generally mean old digested blood. Bright & Red stools mean more active bleeding. Monitoring gums for paleness as a sign of anemia and belly for bloating. If you see no signs of either you should be home free.

Just a reminder if your dog goes under anesthesia just like humans start a clear liquid diet slowly (by encouraging water intake and enteracal supplements) until the gut "wakes up" (gurgling noises) before reintroducing food.

My wife wrote the above, and she's a RN, hope it helps.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadraphinic (Post 4344554)
Dark Stools generally mean old digested blood. Bright & Red stools mean more active bleeding. Monitoring gums for paleness as a sign of anemia and belly for bloating. If you see no signs of either you should be home free.

Just a reminder if your dog goes under anesthesia just like humans start a clear liquid diet slowly (by encouraging water intake and enteracal supplements) until the gut "wakes up" (gurgling noises) before reintroducing food.

My wife wrote the above, and she's a RN, hope it helps.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork
The gums are pink and moist, and her belly looks good; I don't see any bloating and the cut looks great. Can you expand a bit on old digested blood? What would that come from?

Thanks Quad (and thanks to your wife too!)

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnus (Post 4344552)
How long has it been since you changed her food? Before/After spay? I'm not an expert but it doesn't sound like anything's wrong. Is she eating and drinking normally? When she's awake, is she alert and playful? Are her gums moist and pink? If answers are yes, than she should be ok and darkness might be from the food. But just to be sure, I'd like to suggest you give your vet a call and ask. Never hurts to ask questions. :)

Also, have you checked the posts on dog food? I believe there are better quality dog foods compared to RC and Pedigree. I feed my two Blue Buffalo Life Protection for small breed.
I changed her food Monday about lunch time when I brought her home from the vet. She sleeps quite a bit right now, but she is pretty alert when up. For instance, she tries to drag me on the leash when I take her out back to use the bathroom. Her first poop since the spay was last night and she was struggling a bit to get it out. I didn't see the color because it was dark. She took another poop this afternoon that was a normal brown color and came out pretty easily. Then the one she took about an hour ago was dark and looked like it was a little harder to push out than the one earlier in the day, but not difficult like the one last night.

For the food I really trust my breeder's recommendation of Royal Canin, and she is so healthy and energetic on that diet, plus her coat is so awesome right after brushing (of course she becomes a hot mess 5 minutes later when she goes and rolls in the grass lol).

Quadraphinic 11-06-2013 07:49 PM
Most likely just from the teeth being pulled, some is also ingested during the operation. If the poo is just dark and everything, gums, no bloating, etc, then there should be no problems. I would call your vet in the morning, just to check with him. I wouldn't worry, she sounds like she's recovering just fine, just continue to monitor her gums, and incision.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadraphinic (Post 4344581)
Most likely just from the teeth being pulled, some is also ingested during the operation. If the poo is just dark and everything, gums, no bloating, etc, then there should be no problems. I would call your vet in the morning, just to check with him. I wouldn't worry, she sounds like she's recovering just fine, just continue to monitor her gums, and incision.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork
Oh no, on second look her stomach does look bloated. Is this not normal with a spay?

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 08:15 PM
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Here are a couple of photos of her belly

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 08:31 PM
She is eating and drinking fine, sleeps a lot but looks and moves around like normal and really wants to go play every single time when we go out back (in fact, she tries to drag me on the leash!).

Quadraphinic 11-06-2013 08:48 PM
It looks like normal swelling to me, but if she's eating, and her potty habits are the same, plus wanting to play, I'd say she's fine. I'd still call your vet if you're worried, and to let them know about the vomiting from the first couple of times eating. Let us know what the vet has to say if you ask him.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork

Magnus 11-06-2013 09:01 PM
If she seems like she's straining a bit.. Perhaps you should give her some canned pumpkin? You can get it at the grocery. Pure pumpkin though. It helps with softening the poop but not really loose like diarrhea.

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadraphinic (Post 4344617)
It looks like normal swelling to me, but if she's eating, and her potty habits are the same, plus wanting to play, I'd say she's fine. I'd still call your vet if you're worried, and to let them know about the vomiting from the first couple of times eating. Let us know what the vet has to say if you ask him.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork
It doesn't seem like the dreaded bloat that often affects big dogs, since the stomach isn't rock hard, there's no pain when I press against it, she is peeing and pooping ok, and no dry retching.

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnus (Post 4344624)
If she seems like she's straining a bit.. Perhaps you should give her some canned pumpkin? You can get it at the grocery. Pure pumpkin though. It helps with softening the poop but not really loose like diarrhea.
I'll definitely get some if it looks like she is straining again. I was going to get some today and then she had that normal poop at lunchtime and I thought things were A-OK.

theporkieyorkie 11-06-2013 09:17 PM
Have you taken her temperature??

If nothing else, I would definitely give the vet a call tomorrow with my concerns.

I've heard the Pepto Bismol causes poop to turn dark..basically black. Have you given her any pepto, by chance??

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by theporkieyorkie (Post 4344636)
Have you taken her temperature??

If nothing else, I would definitely give the vet a call tomorrow with my concerns.

I've heard the Pepto Bismol causes poop to turn dark..basically black. Have you given her any pepto, by chance??
No pepto. I just took her out and she peed and pooped again, this time the poop a normal healthy brown color. I think I just overfed her today, as it's pretty rare for Cook to have three poops in a day (though this one wasn't a big poop).

I was giving her small meals, but I guess I gave her too many of them and need to work on my portion control.

yorkiefan_ 11-06-2013 09:41 PM
LOL, I'm trying to get her to go to bed and all the Cook wants to do is chew on the zipper of her bedcover.

Quadraphinic 11-06-2013 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiefan_ (Post 4344644)
LOL, I'm trying to get her to go to bed and all the Cook wants to do is chew on the zipper of her bedcover.
They are so like infants and toddlers at this age, my oldest son, when ever we to visit his Grammy, if she didn't hold his hands still he would stay awake. It's a lot of fun and work, raising our little furbabies, totally worth it though.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork

yorkiefan_ 11-07-2013 04:22 AM
Cook's stomach looks great this morning after our potty trip.

Magnus 11-07-2013 07:19 AM
Good to hear!

Just wanted to ask though.. Have you stocked up on what I'd refer to as first aid kit for pups? Things like nutrical, vet approved diphenhydramine (like baby benadryl), styptic powder, etc..

yorkiefan_ 11-07-2013 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnus (Post 4344762)
Good to hear!

Just wanted to ask though.. Have you stocked up on what I'd refer to as first aid kit for pups? Things like nutrical, vet approved diphenhydramine (like baby benadryl), styptic powder, etc..
I have the Nutrical and I have liquid Benadryl and a plunger in case of a bee string. I don't know what styptic powder is though. I was giving her Nutrical the day she got back from the spay.

Magnus 11-07-2013 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiefan_ (Post 4344771)
I have the Nutrical and I have liquid Benadryl and a plunger in case of a bee string. I don't know what styptic powder is though. I was giving her Nutrical the day she got back from the spay.
Styptic powder is for minor cuts. It stops the bleeding very quickly. I don't know if you'll be grooming her at home but if you ever decide to cut her nails yourself and you accident cut the kwik, it'll bleed. So you'd apply the styptic powder to stop the bleeding.

As for the benadryl, be sure you know what amount to give. :)

Benadryl Dosage For Dogs | Benadryl Dosage For Dogs Dosage Chart

Quadraphinic 11-07-2013 09:36 AM
Glad to hear Cookie is doing well, Gina is driving me crazy, I just had to put her back in her x-pen to keep her off of the back of the couch. She doesn't like the onesie at all, but she can't get at her stitches, so she's in them for the duration, till they come out.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork

yorkiefan_ 11-07-2013 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadraphinic (Post 4344829)
Glad to hear Cookie is doing well, Gina is driving me crazy, I just had to put her back in her x-pen to keep her off of the back of the couch. She doesn't like the onesie at all, but she can't get at her stitches, so she's in them for the duration, till they come out.
Cheers Quad & Gina:aimeeyork
Surprisingly Cook is tolerating her onesie pretty well. Now tolerating being cooped up in a bedroom? Not so much. She is literally hopping mad at me right now. lol


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