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yorkietalkjilly 10-19-2013 02:37 PM

I do prefer the sweeter guides! Satisfying my sweet tooth usually helps me listen more closely and better than does a spoon of lemon juice! And puts me in a better mood to learn.

nanahas3 10-19-2013 04:36 PM

When I was growing up I had a mom who yelled to get her point across. I learned real fast to act like I was listening but to tune her out. My Dad on the other hand sat us down and talked in a calm but firm respectable voice. He could have me in tears and never raise his voice or a hand to me. Personally even as an adult I would walk away from someone being rude, or aggressively trying to get their view about an issue across to me. I would not get my feelings hurt but I would not respect the person doing this enough to even want to listen to any advice they were giving me. I love learning and I love a good teacher who knows how to teach wisely. I am probably many of your senior but I am never going to get to the point that I am to old to learn.

ColesMommy01 10-19-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4335369)
When I was growing up I had a mom who yelled to get her point across. I learned real fast to act like I was listening but to tune her out. My Dad on the other hand sat us down and talked in a calm but firm respectable voice. He could have me in tears and never raise his voice or a hand to me. Personally even as an adultI would walk away from someone being rude, or aggressively trying to get their view about an issue across to me. I would not get my feelings hurt but I would not respect the person doing this enough to even want to listen to any advice they were giving me. I love learning and I love a good teacher who knows how to teach wisely. I am probably many of your senior but I am never going to get to the point that I am to old to learn.

:thumbup:

Sunnydayz 10-19-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunnydayz (Post 4334989)
My dog is not really good all the time, but I am teaching him that I am the boss, and I make the rules. He's only 4 months old, so we are just into all the training stuff, and will be training for quite some time to come. Right now I'm working on training him to a schedule that works for him as well as myself.

When I first rescued Gizmo 8 maybe 9 weeks ago, he was extremely sick, but he's well now. But the first thing I did was contact a friend I have that's near me and also has a yorkie, she's actually had many of them, and I asked her if in the future, if I needed a break if she would take him for a day, here and there. That was very important to me to make sure I had someone ready, if needed.

Over the last 4 1/2 years, I've had about 7 or 8 surgeries for things caused from my spinal cord damage, and have been in the hospital approx 15 or more times from going septic from infections also due to my paralysis. I too live in a large city, one of the biggest since I'm right outside of downtown Los Angeles. Sometimes being in a big city can be helpful as there are more resources available.

I do hope your back feels better soon, but if I were you, I would just let your dog know that sometimes you are not able to play as much as you would like. The one thing about dogs, is they do adjust to what you ask of them. Like I said, with Gizmo, we are just in the training phase as he is young, but he is learning that I am the boss, and he has to listen to my commands for him. He has no choice :-) just be really consistent with putting him down for naps in an xpen or crate, and he will eventually get it. I have put Gizmo in his xpen for naps between playtime every day since I started training, and he now knows if I put him in there during the day, it's nap time and he goes to his bed now, without me having to tell him, and takes a nap. Think about people in wheelchairs that have service dogs, they obviously are not playing all day, and do what needs to be done to meet the disabled persons needs, because they are trained that way. I eventually am going to get gizmo certified as my service dog, along with the training he requires, since I am permanently disabled and my paralysis will progress as time goes on, it already has in the last four and a half years since I became this way. You shouldn't feel bad about not playing when you can't, because is you don't take care of yourself, who will take care of your dog is something happens to you, like if you end up in the hospital. It's really important to have someone that can be there in an emergency, that was why I asked my friend to begin with, so I knew I had a backup plan if needed for a break, or if I have to go the hospital or anything. Do you have a friend you can trust? I would definitely think about the what ifs, ad make sure you have a person who can help you out occasionally.

I hope I am not one of those being referred to as being rude or anything. Sometimes when you type words, the emotion behind them does not show. I was sincerely trying to be helpful with how I have dealt with my own situation of being partially paralyzed. I have learned so much here, and was just trying to pay it forward, with some ideas :-)

nanahas3 10-19-2013 08:25 PM

I don't think you were rude at all.

yakkwak 10-19-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunnydayz (Post 4335495)
I hope I am not one of those being referred to as being rude or anything. Sometimes when you type words, the emotion behind them does not show. I was sincerely trying to be helpful with how I have dealt with my own situation of being partially paralyzed. I have learned so much here, and was just trying to pay it forward, with some ideas :-)

No, not at all IMHO. You took time to share and offer feedback in a very helpful way. I am sorry, I wasn't at all referring to your suggestions. Actually felt a lot of empathy and suddenly grateful for my health. Blessings

buffy512 10-20-2013 06:17 AM

If ANYONE in this thread is being labeled rude. Its the person who had the nerve to call ME out of my name. Not the other way around. If I had a care to give. I could never be bothered by being called rude when my intent is aimed towards the safety and health of an animal. About the story of difference. Ive never came out of guidelines or respect at ANY moment. Harsh. Possibly. Im live in a world of I DONT LIKE TO SUGARCOAT TRUTH. That doesnt do to well in my occupation nor have I ever prefered it. I like to hear whats real. No matter how harsh it seems. I have a very thick skin. Would I ever hurt anyones feelings for no reason. Never. I think we all need to realize people have a different approach. If its not for you its not for you. Although I am quite confused how someone can come off rude through a typed conversation. When nothing rude was said. Pardon my tone ladies n gents. LoL

Moral of the story. DONT DRUG YOUR PETS!

Or for those who need a different approach......

Please do not give your ooor baby a tenth of a drop of benadryl as it may cause more harm than benefit. Be sure to check with your vet before making any medical decision. There is an alternative. Such as simply crating your pet while taking a break. Or finding an alternative to the game of fetch. As opinions follows......

If I walked my life tip toe against the possible feelings Id hurt. I dont think I would make it to the mailbox in time to pay my RUDE bills. Hehe

Wylie's Mom 10-20-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4335369)
When I was growing up I had a mom who yelled to get her point across. I learned real fast to act like I was listening but to tune her out. My Dad on the other hand sat us down and talked in a calm but firm respectable voice. He could have me in tears and never raise his voice or a hand to me. Personally even as an adult I would walk away from someone being rude, or aggressively trying to get their view about an issue across to me. I would not get my feelings hurt but I would not respect the person doing this enough to even want to listen to any advice they were giving me. I love learning and I love a good teacher who knows how to teach wisely. I am probably many of your senior but I am never going to get to the point that I am to old to learn.

WOW. The whole paragraph, but esp the bolded part.

This is seriously one of the BEST POSTS I've ever read on YT. Simple, True, Utterly Poignant.

Maximo 10-20-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4335369)
When I was growing up I had a mom who yelled to get her point across. I learned real fast to act like I was listening but to tune her out. My Dad on the other hand sat us down and talked in a calm but firm respectable voice. He could have me in tears and never raise his voice or a hand to me. Personally even as an adult I would walk away from someone being rude, or aggressively trying to get their view about an issue across to me. I would not get my feelings hurt but I would not respect the person doing this enough to even want to listen to any advice they were giving me. I love learning and I love a good teacher who knows how to teach wisely. I am probably many of your senior but I am never going to get to the point that I am to old to learn.

I agree, great post.

Also can relate to being far more moved by my father's calm approach than my mother's raised voice.

yorkietalkjilly 10-20-2013 08:02 AM

Be soft. Do not let the world make you hard. Do not let pain make you hate. Do not let the bitterness steal your sweetness. Take pride that even though the rest of the world may disagree, you still believe it to be a beautiful place.
Author: Kurt Vonnegut

ColesMommy01 10-20-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4335682)
Be soft. Do not let the world make you hard. Do not let pain make you hate. Do not let the bitterness steal your sweetness. Take pride that even though the rest of the world may disagree, you still believe it to be a beautiful place.
Author: Kurt Vonnegut

I like that! Although I admit I hated my hubby during labor with my son and I was very very bitter with the contractions :yelrotflm

buffy512 10-20-2013 08:17 AM

I agree, as a parent. I know too well the reaction I get when I raise my voice firmly even. Its something I grew up with as well. I fight for those who dont have a voice. Or who no longer feel they have no voice. But who is yelling its an internet forum to post opinions. I have yet to disrespect anyone and its a beautiful gift to be a woman of opinion. I could never understand the gift to know how to control your destiny. Its a blessing to share my life with others as I please. The gift of knowing your giving your best each and everyday. Im sure we all have great intentions. Sadly some dont.

lexi43 10-20-2013 10:55 AM

Hey Sportschick: I can really understand how you feel I had hip surgery a few years ago and I also fractured my knee quite a few years back. Now I was diagnosed with Osteo. I know the pain. We have 5 small dogs and they are all young and love to play. The only good thing is that they have each other to play with and don't demand too much attention from me. My friend lives with me and she is home most of the time to help me but on the days when she has to work in the city it's murder. I actually have to throw their food down because I can't bend. Also Zach is a real lap dog and loves to be held. When my friend is home she holds him but I can't even bend down to pick him up. I never had to drug my dogs because most of time they play with each other but I can really understand you. You're doing what you can and don't let anybody tell you different.

maggiefromnj 10-20-2013 01:17 PM

I didn't read the whole thread as I knew it would spiral into admonitions etc.

It's not a good reason to drug your dog. Sorry. Just don't do it again.

When I am beat I just lie on the sofa and Maggie eventually brings me her toy and I can throw it. I don't really have to move. Or, I will sit on the floor (use lots of pillows to get yourself comfy.)

Try to find someone who can come over and visit and play for those times when you are really down or sick. You never know when you will really need the help.

I think these babies help keep some of us young. There have been many a walk I've taken for her when I really wouldn't have without her. At least one walk a day whether I like it or not. (except for really rainy or snowy nasty days--Maggie won't go out in the rain anyway!)

Sunnydayz 10-20-2013 03:12 PM

The reason I had even responded in this thread was to offer some suggestions to try and help. For the first 2 years after the spinal cord surgery, that destroyed who I used to be, I just wanted to die every day I woke up. It took that long o start coming out of the anger of what was done to me. I still talk to a therapist along with my other drs, every month so I can live as much of my life as I can. I even wrote an annonymous blog for a long time after my spinal cord damage to help me cope.

If you would like to know more about what my condition is and how I ended up here like this today, here is a link to my blog. LIVING LIFE WITH CES AFTER FAILED TARLOV SURGERY: May 2010 , I have never shared this before with anyone but my husband and my daughter, and the reason I am sharing it now, is so you sportschick, can see why I am trying to help you with suggestions, and how much worse life can truly be. I live this life and know, that Gizmo has given me so much happiness that I would only ever want to the same for him. Believe me, with my life the way it is, you appreciate happiness much much more.

My blog is a very long read if you start from the beginning dates on the left column, but maybe you will get an idea of why I feel it so important to have emergency plans in place, even if its just for a break, or something worse. I live an unexpected life where I never will know what will happen next. I feel Gizmo was sent to me by fate and I treasure him every day.

sportschick 10-26-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lexi43 (Post 4335744)
hey sportschick: I can really understand how you feel i had hip surgery a few years ago and i also fractured my knee quite a few years back. Now i was diagnosed with osteo. I know the pain. We have 5 small dogs and they are all young and love to play. The only good thing is that they have each other to play with and don't demand too much attention from me. My friend lives with me and she is home most of the time to help me but on the days when she has to work in the city it's murder. I actually have to throw their food down because i can't bend. Also zach is a real lap dog and loves to be held. When my friend is home she holds him but i can't even bend down to pick him up. I never had to drug my dogs because most of time they play with each other but i can really understand you. You're doing what you can and don't let anybody tell you different.


thank you.

sportschick 10-26-2013 05:39 PM

O.K., so I am back after being banned for calling BUFFY512 a "bad name" for insulting me.

First off, I would like to thank the member who suggested the claw idea. It is working GREAT!!! I am able to pick up her ball and fling it down the hall way more accurately then if I was doing it with my hands!!

Second, I did get a cortisone shot in my hip, ahhhh, I thnk it made it worse, but I guess it can take up to 5 days for it to work.

Third, I had a wellness checkup with my vet this past week. I made the apt. as Beanie had been sneezing and itching constantly due to the pollen. He prescribed, WAIT FOR IT, Benadryl. Can you imagine??? He said that you already know that she will get sleepy since I told you to use it when I had to pull her nail out to keep her calm. I told him that I actually used it on her when my back hurt to keep her calm for a night and I felt terrible about it.

Anyway, I don't want to have to use the Benadryl to control her allergies every night so I am trying to wipe her down with baby wipes. I wipe her face, ears, paws, etc. I am hoping that helps to get the pollen off her.

Magnus 10-26-2013 10:10 PM

Welcome back?... :p I'm glad things are working out with a different method. I'm not sure about sneezing but.. is your puppy's skin dry? I've seen people suggest adding fish oil to the kibbles or whatever dog food you feed. Also, perhaps spritzing might help? I use Kalaya Emu Oil.

For your back... have you tried getting a massage? Or perhaps acupuncture? Doesn't work for everyone but for some, it works wonders.

I hope your back feels better soon. :)

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Originally Posted by sportschick (Post 4339178)
O.K., so I am back after being banned for calling BUFFY512 a "bad name" for insulting me.

First off, I would like to thank the member who suggested the claw idea. It is working GREAT!!! I am able to pick up her ball and fling it down the hall way more accurately then if I was doing it with my hands!!

Second, I did get a cortisone shot in my hip, ahhhh, I thnk it made it worse, but I guess it can take up to 5 days for it to work.

Third, I had a wellness checkup with my vet this past week. I made the apt. as Beanie had been sneezing and itching constantly due to the pollen. He prescribed, WAIT FOR IT, Benadryl. Can you imagine??? He said that you already know that she will get sleepy since I told you to use it when I had to pull her nail out to keep her calm. I told him that I actually used it on her when my back hurt to keep her calm for a night and I felt terrible about it.

Anyway, I don't want to have to use the Benadryl to control her allergies every night so I am trying to wipe her down with baby wipes. I wipe her face, ears, paws, etc. I am hoping that helps to get the pollen off her.


nanahas3 10-27-2013 01:52 AM

Welcome back glad things are going better for you. Our Laddy has allergies and we have to give him benedryl every day. Doesn't seem to slow him down much at all. We also mix hydrocordizone cream with water and spray it on him to help with his itching.

jeane 10-27-2013 04:25 AM

hope you feel better// I have had one knee replacement and looking at another in the near future

sportschick 10-27-2013 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnus (Post 4339279)
Welcome back?... :p I'm glad things are working out with a different method. I'm not sure about sneezing but.. is your puppy's skin dry? I've seen people suggest adding fish oil to the kibbles or whatever dog food you feed. Also, perhaps spritzing might help? I use Kalaya Emu Oil.

For your back... have you tried getting a massage? Or perhaps acupuncture? Doesn't work for everyone but for some, it works wonders.

I hope your back feels better soon. :)

I actually do mix the fish oil into her food every day. I will check into the Emu Oil to spritz her with. My question is though, does that make her coat greasy? I know Emu Oil is very good for people skin so I would imagine it would be good for doggie skin as well!

Acupuncture never worked for me for my back. Has worked for other ailments though. Yes, I actually am going to get a massage. There are tons of Groupons and Living Social type deals for massages, so I can get a couple for very short money. Massages have helped me in the past!

sportschick 10-27-2013 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jeane (Post 4339312)
hope you feel better// I have had one knee replacement and looking at another in the near future

Oh you poor thing!! I would imagine that a knee replacement keeps you down for quite awhile, although I know that they do wonders for people.

That is all I could think about last week, when my hip was so bad, that I would need a freakin hip replacement!!

Wylie's Mom 10-27-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sportschick (Post 4339178)
Anyway, I don't want to have to use the Benadryl to control her allergies every night so I am trying to wipe her down with baby wipes. I wipe her face, ears, paws, etc. I am hoping that helps to get the pollen off her.

Why don't you want to use the Benadryl? It may really help her. Allergies are so miserable...I've been there w/ my dogs and know what you're going through. We have a Vet Derm we see, and they are utterly amazing. As far as the wipes...it may help, but it's kinda like putting a band aid on a burst artery. Pollens are microscopic, and they're EVERYwhere...so wipes can help only a tiny bit.

If her quality of life is affected, I'd really suggest treating her. Start w/ OTCs (like Ben./Zyrtec/Claritin) - you have to give them for 2 weeks solid before judging efficacy. Those usually don't work well for most allergy dogs, but you never know so they're worth a try. If those don't work, then you start thinking of Atopica or allergy testing if they allergies are mostly year round. If seasonal, then you consider Temaril P or steroids.

sportschick 10-27-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4339442)
Why don't you want to use the Benadryl? It may really help her. Allergies are so miserable...I've been there w/ my dogs and know what you're going through. We have a Vet Derm we see, and they are utterly amazing. As far as the wipes...it may help, but it's kinda like putting a band aid on a burst artery. Pollens are microscopic, and they're EVERYwhere...so wipes can help only a tiny bit.

If her quality of life is affected, I'd really suggest treating her. Start w/ OTCs (like Ben./Zyrtec/Claritin) - you have to give them for 2 weeks solid before judging efficacy. Those usually don't work well for most allergy dogs, but you never know so they're worth a try. If those don't work, then you start thinking of Atopica or allergy testing if they allergies are mostly year round. If seasonal, then you consider Temaril P or steroids.

Yes, I know what you are saying. I just don't like to have to give her something every day, even though it is such a small amount and it actually does help her, although she conks out from it.

Thank you for actually validating what I had been saying earlier in this thread. I got killed here for giving Benadryl to her to make her a little sleepy one night because my hip and back hurt so much, I just couldn't walk her or play with her. (Hence the title to the thread) I mean there was one poster who absolutely eviscerated me, insinuating I shouldn't have a dog because I actually gave her Benadryl. I tried to tell people that vets prescribe it all the time for allergies and that my vet had told me to use it.

Anyway, I might have to go with the Benadryl for a couple of weeks. I just got home from being out with her and she is itching and itching and making sneezy noises so I know the pollen is getting to her even though I wiped her down and combed and combed her with the flea comb to try and get as much of it off as I can.

yorkietalkjilly 10-27-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sportschick (Post 4339452)
Yes, I know what you are saying. I just don't like to have to give her something every day, even though it is such a small amount and it actually does help her, although she conks out from it.

Thank you for actually validating what I had been saying earlier in this thread. I got killed here for giving Benadryl to her to make her a little sleepy one night because my hip and back hurt so much, I just couldn't walk her or play with her. (Hence the title to the thread) I mean there was one poster who absolutely eviscerated me, insinuating I shouldn't have a dog because I actually gave her Benadryl. I tried to tell people that vets prescribe it all the time for allergies and that my vet had told me to use it.

Anyway, I might have to go with the Benadryl for a couple of weeks. I just got home from being out with her and she is itching and itching and making sneezy noises so I know the pollen is getting to her even though I wiped her down and combed and combed her with the flea comb to try and get as much of it off as I can.

It's the drugging your dog for your relief and not the dog's that I think everyone was objecting to. OTC medications can have unintended consequences for anyone and to give a dog un-needed medication for your own convenience rather than training it or working out another solution is what is unethical. It's a line most people just won't cross with pets or children. There is nothing wrong with giving medication to an animal for its own medical needs, such as Benadryl for itching or allergies but doping for convenience sake when there are other workable solutions is not something a group of doglovers will ever condone.

yakkwak 10-27-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4339466)
It's the drugging your dog for your relief and not the dog's that I think everyone was objecting to. OTC medications can have unintended consequences for anyone and to give a dog un-needed medication for your own convenience rather than training it or working out another solution is what is unethical. It's a line most people just won't cross with pets or children. There is nothing wrong with giving medication to an animal for its own medical needs, such as Benadryl for itching or allergies but doping for convenience sake when there are other workable solutions is not something a group of doglovers will ever condone.

Above, adding all caps and highlight to the operative word "YOUR" in the first sentence above. Hope you keep getting better.

sportschick 10-27-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4339466)
It's the drugging your dog for your relief and not the dog's that I think everyone was objecting to. OTC medications can have unintended consequences for anyone and to give a dog un-needed medication for your own convenience rather than training it or working out another solution is what is unethical. It's a line most people just won't cross with pets or children. There is nothing wrong with giving medication to an animal for its own medical needs, such as Benadryl for itching or allergies but doping for convenience sake when there are other workable solutions is not something a group of doglovers will ever condone.

O.K. so wait, I gave my dog Benadryl ONE night because my back hurt as opposed to my vet telling me to give it to her EVERY night with the same side affects and the same consequences is somehow different? SO you you CONDONE giving her Benadryl EVERY night, again with the same side affects, but don't condone giving it to her for ONE night. As I said, I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE IT TO HER EVERY NIGHT for her allergies. I did, however, with MUCH guilt, give it to her ONE night. I haven't given it to her for either situation because I DO NOT AGREE with giving myself OR my dog drugs on a daily basis.

Giving her the freakin Benadryl to calm her down had NOTHING to do with me training her. She IS trained. It had to do with what was best for ME so that I could put myself in the best position to continue to take care of HER. My back and hip need a break for ONE DAY. So I did what a lot of parents of human kids do, I gave her something to calm her down for that day. And YES, parents actually do give their kids things to calm them down. And Benadryl is one of the most benign things that parents have given kids.

I just cannot believe what I I am reading. I have gotten so much good info from you guys, but after this thread, I don't really know anymore. The ridiculousness of this is boggling my mind.

Does anyone else here see this??

kimp5 10-27-2013 03:28 PM

I hear you sportschick. I am the one who said I know of many parents of human kids who have done that on more than one occasion.
Have a kid who never sleeps and your at your wits end and are afraid you may be more of a detriment to your kids because you are sleep deprived. I know sleep deprivation (I had an 18 month old then had triplets)I didn't use the Benadryl because one sleeping didn't help and I couldn't give it to all four (besides the older one actually got wired on Benadryl the one time I gave it to her for actual allergies, yikes!) so what was the point, but trust me there were days when I was a walking zombie, I slept about 45 minutes in a 24 hour period so that if it was feesible I would have tried about anything. (many many people told me to try it, many in the medical field)
The same can be said of someone who is ill and are afraid that you may not be able to provide adequate care to your pup and are told by your dr. to give it a try. I can tell your a caring mom. I will say yorkietalkjilly is really kind and she has given me great advice. Some people are just really passionate about their pups and don't mean to be unkind. I find that emails or posts can come across differently than intended sometimes so I prefer the old fashioned voice to voice.
Go RED Sox!

yorkietalkjilly 10-27-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sportschick (Post 4339507)
O.K. so wait, I gave my dog Benadryl ONE night because my back hurt as opposed to my vet telling me to give it to her EVERY night with the same side affects and the same consequences is somehow different? SO you you CONDONE giving her Benadryl EVERY night, again with the same side affects, but don't condone giving it to her for ONE night. As I said, I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE IT TO HER EVERY NIGHT for her allergies. I did, however, with MUCH guilt, give it to her ONE night. I haven't given it to her for either situation because I DO NOT AGREE with giving myself OR my dog drugs on a daily basis.

Giving her the freakin Benadryl to calm her down had NOTHING to do with me training her. She IS trained. It had to do with what was best for ME so that I could put myself in the best position to continue to take care of HER. My back and hip need a break for ONE DAY. So I did what a lot of parents of human kids do, I gave her something to calm her down for that day. And YES, parents actually do give their kids things to calm them down. And Benadryl is one of the most benign things that parents have given kids.

I just cannot believe what I I am reading. I have gotten so much good info from you guys, but after this thread, I don't really know anymore. The ridiculousness of this is boggling my mind.

Does anyone else here see this??

Medication was created to treat illnesses and painful or irritating conditions and should only be used to treat a medical condition - otherwise giving medication to any creature is not to be condoned or is even considered ethical - especially for the giver's own convenience when other pet/child-friendly methods of handling a pet or child are available. As a person disabled by a bad back, I can tell you all about it. I cannot believe that people would drug or dope their pet or child - it is unthinkable to most parents of dogs or little humans.

It is unconscionable to give an animal a medication with side effects - drowsiness/sedation/loss of consciousness, lethargy, rapid heart rate, nausea/vomiting, dizziness, etc., just for your own personal convenience. If a vet prescribes the medication for a dog's own symptoms such as itching, that use of medication is ethical and benefits the actual dog himself - relieving him from symptoms. But to dose/drug a dog and gork his head out so that he passes out while you rest up is beyond the pale to many doglovers.

If you dog or child was inconvenient for any reason, such as you had missed a couple of night's sleep and needed a nap one evening, the neighbors who dislike dogs are coming to visit or you needed to study - would you drug the dog or child for that, too? Why even have a pet or child if you put them to sleep when they become inconvenient to you? That animal or child is looking to his owner/parent for love, his total care and well-being and dosing him when times are bad is not in the little one's own best interest ever. And any vet that agrees with you - and no doubt some will - should be drummed out of business. It is unthinkable to drug little creatures in our charge to the point of losing consciousness when they are inconvenient to our lives.

dalady25 10-27-2013 05:01 PM

Hi Sportschick,
I am really sorry to hear about all your back problems & I can certainly empathize. My husband has had bad back problems for years. I am so glad that you have found a solution for your sweet puppy.

The reason I'm writing is that if you don't know about the bad side effects of Cortizone shots, please read up on them. My husband & a brother in law that has bad hip problems have both had to resort to them from time to time. They are great for a short-term solution but so BAD for you in the long term.


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