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LAL3961 07-15-2013 04:42 PM

Need serious advice.
 
Before some of you put your judgmental hats on, please leave them off.
I have two yorkies... One almost 4 and another 18 weeks.
My 18 week was previously put in the bathroom while I was at work with a baby gate so he didn't chew and use the bathroom all in my house. The past week we've had major problems.
Scenario: I am a teacher who works two hours away and am gone 12-13 hours a day. Even if I wasn't, I know they can't hold it all day. He was supplied with puppy pads and doing great. He's gotten too big to be put in a crate all day. He has started pooing right by the gate and then proceeding to jump, walk, lay in it all day because he wants out. I come home and have to bathe him daily, clean my room, and desmell my house because all that trampling has just made it thoroughly gross. This takes upwards of an hour to do and I am fed up. I moved him to the kitchen thinking he had a better view, but same thing. I had to throw away the baby gate because it was so gross. If I put both of them in the room same thing happens. I'm nervous about leaving him out all day with my older one because we do have carpet and he will pee everywhere. With this said, I am out of ideas. I have a large play pen but I know he will do the same thing there too. Ideas?

sandy simpson 07-15-2013 04:55 PM

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I think he needs a larger area so he can do his business in one area and walk around in the other. In a small bathroom there is not much room. You can get the dog fences that go in a circle and perhaps buy 2 and hook them together and give that dog a little more room to roam. Put the pee pee pads away from the front of the fence in an area off to one side. That's what I would do. He needs to be trained to go on those pads. If the pads don't work try the pee grass. Once he is trained no more smell, or bathing every day. I am a retired teacher and after a long day with kids you must be so tired. Get this cute dog to do his biz where you want it. Hope this helps.

Teresa Ford 07-15-2013 04:56 PM

No way I mean this to be a snap ,do this comment. But honestly the are only a few options I see. 1 get a dog walker. 2. Doggy day care. 3. rehome.
You can not train a puppy if you are not home.

lynzy420 07-15-2013 05:01 PM

Is there any way you can devote one full week of your time to him? Anyway to get time off? I mean really devote all your time to him? It took me one week and I did the same thing each time, I did not leave them for a minute, seriously if you can take the time to do this then you I'm willing to bet you can fix this, if not then you know you've done what you can.

LAL3961 07-15-2013 05:02 PM

Our bathroom is HUGE! It's almost like it was doing it to be deceitful or scared he would miss out on something. He was doing so fine for so long.

bjh 07-15-2013 05:03 PM

Does he have diarrhea or soft stools? What are you feeding him? I can't imagine a 18 week old pup making that much of a mess. My pups that are that age have very firm stools so even if they walked in them it would not create that kind of a mess. Lucky for me mine go to the far end of the x-pen to do their business on their potty pads.

You might try laying his bedding by the gate and his pads away from the gate and see if that would help. I am sure he is just very stressed from being alone all day. Perhaps someone else will have good advise.

LAL3961 07-15-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4271264)
Is there any way you can devote one full week of your time to him? Anyway to get time off? I mean really devote all your time to him? It took me one week and I did the same thing each time, I did not leave them for a minute, seriously if you can take the time to do this then you I'm willing to bet you can fix this, if not then you know you've done what you can.

I trained him this summer while I was off. That's the thing... It's like reversed. He would cry at door when needed to go out and use pads when I was out.

LAL3961 07-15-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 4271269)
Does he have diarrhea or soft stools? What are you feeding him? I can't imagine a 18 week old pup making that much of a mess. My pups that are that age have very firm stools so even if they walked in them it would not create that kind of a mess. Lucky for me mine go to the far end of the x-pen to do their business on their potty pads.

You might try laying his bedding by the gate and his pads away from the gate and see if that would help. I am sure he is just very stressed from being alone all day. Perhaps someone else will have good advise.

Hard stools, but after jumping in it a million times its EVERYWHERE! Caked in his paws, in the grout.

gemy 07-15-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LAL3961 (Post 4271275)
I trained him this summer while I was off. That's the thing... It's like reversed. He would cry at door when needed to go out and use pads when I was out.

Well I am not sure I understand your post. This summer, well is now. He is only 18wks old so you can't be referring to last summer or last year?

I will say this, if a dog learns to walk in their poo, and becomes accustomed to this, it is a very hard thing to break.

If you are away 12-13 hours I would suggest a dog walker, or day care for your puppy.

Think about exercising in the morning before you go to work. Don't feed in the am, so there should not be any need to defecate once you are gone. Then your dog walker can feed the pup at lunch time and take him out for a walk and pee/poo

Mdyorkies1 07-15-2013 05:27 PM

Get him the puppy apartment, it's working for me and my pup.

HKFandora 07-15-2013 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford (Post 4271260)
No way I mean this to be a snap ,do this comment. But honestly the are only a few options I see. 1 get a dog walker. 2. Doggy day care. 3. rehome.
You can not train a puppy if you are not home.

:thumbup::thumbup:

Britster 07-15-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford (Post 4271260)
No way I mean this to be a snap ,do this comment. But honestly the are only a few options I see. 1 get a dog walker. 2. Doggy day care. 3. rehome.
You can not train a puppy if you are not home.

This.

And I'm not trying to be snarky, or mean, and fully understand people have to do what they gotta do, and work is (unfortunately :p) a part of life.

But really, why have dogs? 12-13 hrs a day is fairly excessive for 5 days a week. 8hrs is understandable, but really 12-13 hrs a day ... what are you doing with them in the remaining 11 hours? I would assume sleeping for at least half?

Dogs, but moreso puppies, really crave companionship, and if you're gone most of the time, they're not going to have that time to bond, or be trained. Dogs don't come hard-wired knowing 'don't step in your poop'. Dogs also aren't deceitful, they don't do things out of deceit. He is an untrained puppy who is confused and doesn't understand what to do.

dollydoodle 07-15-2013 05:51 PM

Poor dog, left alone for so long. Had to say it.

HKFandora 07-15-2013 06:01 PM

Can you hire someone to come by and play with the puppy? Even for like at least an hour?

lovespandp 07-15-2013 06:02 PM

What are you feeding him..? Sounds like he is pooping way too much.

Do you know his poo schedule? If you did you could then have someone come over and take him out or at least clean it up.


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