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Lil Sis 06-19-2013 01:29 PM
First ... Im my humble opinion.. your beautiful little Miley is not a teacup nor is he smaller then average. He would fall in the standards..

Second... yes .. we (even more so us women) are genetically drawn to the little helpless cutties. I hear all the time, oh how I wish my dog would stay like he/she was as a puppy. Then you add the fashion crazy of purse dogs. (I sell dog carriers... and have several so I not putting it down totally) ..

If the yorkies are naturally very tiny and HEALTHY so be it--even the best breeders have runts. What teacup means to me is a greeder breading a poor tiny to get unhealthy pups. They almost alway have healthy issues if they are too small. Then they use the "marketing term" of teacup to get the person who cares more for the size then the health.

chachi 06-19-2013 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4249067)
Why is that relevant? So you all can pick apart at whatever imperfection you find on her site? For that reason I will not disclose her website. I am happy with my puppy and Miley was not PURPOSELY bred to be small.
Then dont call her areputable breeder if you are unwilling to put your money where your mouth is

LolaKaty 06-19-2013 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cindersellie (Post 4249072)
Courtney... We all love you. Please remember that.

I really wish teacup wasn't thought of as bad, because I have 1. I cringe everytime teacup is mentioned now, because I feel like my pup isn't as good. Not by my fault, but by greedy breeders who have made so many think badly about the small ones. I wish I could change it, but it can't be changed.
Agreed!!

Deb1 06-19-2013 01:36 PM
So, I have a question......What is it about a "teacup" that people don't like....the name or the size....or both? I love all yorkies no matter the size or the name, Teapot!

cindersellie 06-19-2013 01:41 PM
The term Teacup gets people going... LOL!

For all the above reasons. Just asking about it seems to get a ton of posts.

We all love our yorkies... big, little and just right sized.

gemy 06-19-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cindersellie (Post 4249072)
Courtney... We all love you. Please remember that.

I really wish teacup wasn't thought of as bad, because I have 1. I cringe everytime teacup is mentioned now, because I feel like my pup isn't as good. Not by my fault, but by greedy breeders who have made so many think badly about the small ones. I wish I could change it, but it can't be changed.


Oh boy this seems to be such an emotionally charged issue, that I am not sure exactly what to say.

Please don't feel that your pup and you as a person are being judged as being bad.

Well at least I don't think or feel that.

How-ever, ideally the breed as per our Standards should be bred ideally to produce pups as adults that grow to let us say 5 to 7 lb range, and as the YTCA has stated no female under 5lbs should be bred.

Why is that do you think? No female under 5lbs should be bred? The serious risk to her life? Certainly not justified by trying to breed dogs that will produce dogs under 5lbs.

They the YTCA put out this recommendation for very valid reasons.

chachi 06-19-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4249082)
So, I have a question......What is it about a "teacup" that people don't like....the name or the size....or both? I love all yorkies no matter the size or the name, Teapot!
The name for the reasons i 2xplained earlier. We love yorkies all sizes here

cindersellie 06-19-2013 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4249088)
Oh boy this seems to be such an emotionally charged issue, that I am not sure exactly what to say.

Please don't feel that your pup and you as a person are being judged as being bad.

Well at least I don't think or feel that.

How-ever, ideally the breed as per our Standards should be bred ideally to produce pups as adults that grow to let us say 5 to 7 lb range, and as the YTCA has stated no female under 5lbs should be bred.

Why is that do you think? No female under 5lbs should be bred? The serious risk to her life? Certainly not justified by trying to breed dogs that will produce dogs under 5lbs.

They the YTCA put out this recommendation for very valid reasons.
I know I'm loved and Cinder's is too.

xoCourtney 06-19-2013 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KathyKelben (Post 4249047)
the term teacup means (to a reputable breeder) a potentiallly sick, unhealthy dog

teapot doesn't simple
that's like saying fat means ugly and skinny means beautiful...not true.

xoCourtney 06-19-2013 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cindersellie (Post 4249072)
Courtney... We all love you. Please remember that.

I really wish teacup wasn't thought of as bad, because I have 1. I cringe everytime teacup is mentioned now, because I feel like my pup isn't as good. Not by my fault, but by greedy breeders who have made so many think badly about the small ones. I wish I could change it, but it can't be changed.
thank you but I can't help but feel as if she doesn't belong here sometimes. Miley is nothing but healthy which is funny because most of the people who are posting in the sick section have bigger dogs...they get sick just liek smaller ones.

xoCourtney 06-19-2013 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Sis (Post 4249076)
First ... Im my humble opinion.. your beautiful little Miley is not a teacup nor is he smaller then average. He would fall in the standards..

Second... yes .. we (even more so us women) are genetically drawn to the little helpless cutties. I hear all the time, oh how I wish my dog would stay like he/she was as a puppy. Then you add the fashion crazy of purse dogs. (I sell dog carriers... and have several so I not putting it down totally) ..

If the yorkies are naturally very tiny and HEALTHY so be it--even the best breeders have runts. What teacup means to me is a greeder breading a poor tiny to get unhealthy pups. They almost alway have healthy issues if they are too small. Then they use the "marketing term" of teacup to get the person who cares more for the size then the health.
Yes and I HATE how that that is what teacup means to so many. Miley might not be a "teacup" in your eyes but she's definitely a smaller dog than most yorkies I've seen. She'll be 15 weeks tomorrow and she weighs 2.4lbs. idk if thats normal for her age but regardless...she is supposed to be a smaller dog full grown.

xoCourtney 06-19-2013 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4249077)
Then dont call her areputable breeder if you are unwilling to put your money where your mouth is
I chose to protect my breeder from being bullied. I know what she is made of and the dogs she has behind her name and quite frankly that's none of your business. ALL you are wanting to do is tare apart her name and I'm not going to let that happen. So please.

xoCourtney 06-19-2013 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4249088)
Oh boy this seems to be such an emotionally charged issue, that I am not sure exactly what to say.

Please don't feel that your pup and you as a person are being judged as being bad.

Well at least I don't think or feel that.

How-ever, ideally the breed as per our Standards should be bred ideally to produce pups as adults that grow to let us say 5 to 7 lb range, and as the YTCA has stated no female under 5lbs should be bred.

Why is that do you think? No female under 5lbs should be bred? The serious risk to her life? Certainly not justified by trying to breed dogs that will produce dogs under 5lbs.

They the YTCA put out this recommendation for very valid reasons.
Her mom was 6lbs...Miley is still estimated to be no more than 4.5 lbs. Like stated before sometimes it just happens.

chachi 06-19-2013 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4249123)
Her mom was 6lbs...Miley is still estimated to be no more than 4.5 lbs. Like stated before sometimes it just happens.
Teacups, tinies whatever you want to call them are 3lbs and less. They arent teacuups though they are standard yorkies. The yorkie standrd is 7 lbs and under

MandiesMom 06-19-2013 02:13 PM
Just throwing this out there...

Since people here came up with the term "teapot" as an endearing term, why can't we do the same for smaller sized Yorkies?

Since "teacup" has been sullied by bad people (you can question it all you want..it has been done, so nothing you can do to change that), why not come up with a NEW term for our beloved smaller Yorkies? How about "The Wee York Club"? or the "Tadpole Club"? or.... you see what I'm going for. Make up an endearing term as a community...start THAT club for our beloved underachieving in size babies...and go with it. :)

ETA: 4.5 lbs is normal healthy weight for a Yorkie, btw :)


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