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DvlshAngel985 05-11-2013 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The 4 M (Post 4210222)
wow brings a whole new meaning to "No Ball play" lol. have never heard of a park banning dogs that way.
My baby boys have all bits included lol. I feel the same in the way of been scared by the operation, also my mams yorkie Benji was done for medical reasons and he has changed, not for the better either, he used to be a lovely friendly dog now he is really grumpy, isolates himself, gained weight even tho he doesnt eat more than before, and something that I hear a lot but the other way on he never used to mark indoors now he does, all my boys don't mark in the house and never have, this is just my experience.
There are reasons for not allowing intact boys AND girls at dog parks. I'll share with you my most memorable experience. Being an uneducated first time pet owner, I took Kaji to the doggy park 4 weeks after his neuter. Not knowing it can take longer than that for his manly urges to go away, I let Kaji roam freely. Unbeknownst to me, there was a female morkie IN HEAT at the dog park. Kaji immediately started courting her. Kaji kept all the other dogs away from this little girl, almost got into a few fights, and kept trying all his slick moves. That behavior is not Kaji. He would never in a million years pick fights. He's so friendly and always wants to say hi to every dog he meets. I had no idea what was going on, until the morkie's dad yelled at me to keep my dirty minded boy away from his little princess. Didn't I know she was in heat?!?! :eek:

So... No intact dogs at the dog park please! Mostly because some people lack better judgement and common sense. :facepalm:

victoriasueno 05-11-2013 10:02 PM
My yorkie was neutered at a young age but still marked at my old apartment where he was an only child. Now that he has a brother (that's not a yorkie) and we've moved into a house for some odd reason he doesn't mark.
All of my animals are spayed or neutered. The lower risk of cancer is a big selling point for me. It doesn't mean that an intact animal is going to get cancer, but I don't want to take the chance. Also, not having to worry about females in heat, and general looks. Snipped male dogs look so much...better without their balls. Also I've found that intact males tend to 'express' their excitement by showing their 'lipstick tube', my dogs don't do that. I've never actually seen their winks...and I'd like to keep it like that.
My person philosophy is that I wouldn't gamble with my reproductive health or take the chance of myself getting pregnant, why would I gamble with my furbabies?

-Victoria

OscarsMom 05-12-2013 12:31 AM
I took Oscar in for his yearly physical and shots on Monday, and my Vet told me he would suggest waiting until he was around 8yrs old before neutering him!! I asked my vet why he suggest waiting so long and he said if I'm not having any issues with him marking or with aggression ect. that we could wait until later.. I asked why 8yrs old and he said that 8yrs old is the longest he would want to wait due to anesthesia complications in older dogs, as well as thats about the time they start seeing the testicular cancer and prostate problems. This whole conversation took me by surprise because he has ALWAYS been very adament about fixing your pups. The marque out front even says "If it ain't fixed Neuter it" So I'm confused as to why he would suggest waiting only because he doesn't have any problems and he's healthy.

bjh 05-12-2013 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 4211128)
There are reasons for not allowing intact boys AND girls at dog parks. I'll share with you my most memorable experience. Being an uneducated first time pet owner, I took Kaji to the doggy park 4 weeks after his neuter. Not knowing it can take longer than that for his manly urges to go away, I let Kaji roam freely. Unbeknownst to me, there was a female morkie IN HEAT at the dog park. Kaji immediately started courting her. Kaji kept all the other dogs away from this little girl, almost got into a few fights, and kept trying all his slick moves. That behavior is not Kaji. He would never in a million years pick fights. He's so friendly and always wants to say hi to every dog he meets. I had no idea what was going on, until the morkie's dad yelled at me to keep my dirty minded boy away from his little princess. Didn't I know she was in heat?!?! :eek:

So... No intact dogs at the dog park please! Mostly because some people lack better judgement and common sense. :facepalm:
That was totally wrong for that guy to bring a female in heat to a dog park. Most people that don't know that a neutered male can still breed a female in heat, he just can't get them pregnant.

Lil Sis 05-12-2013 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 4211128)
There are reasons for not allowing intact boys AND girls at dog parks. I'll share with you my most memorable experience. Being an uneducated first time pet owner, I took Kaji to the doggy park 4 weeks after his neuter. Not knowing it can take longer than that for his manly urges to go away, I let Kaji roam freely. Unbeknownst to me, there was a female morkie IN HEAT at the dog park. Kaji immediately started courting her. Kaji kept all the other dogs away from this little girl, almost got into a few fights, and kept trying all his slick moves. That behavior is not Kaji. He would never in a million years pick fights. He's so friendly and always wants to say hi to every dog he meets. I had no idea what was going on, until the morkie's dad yelled at me to keep my dirty minded boy away from his little princess. Didn't I know she was in heat?!?! :eek:

So... No intact dogs at the dog park please! Mostly because some people lack better judgement and common sense. :facepalm:
I personally think the guy was a jerk. Who in their right mind would bring a female to a dog park in heat???????

MandiesMom 05-12-2013 07:16 AM
I'm going to do some more reading based on the info some of you have posted here.

I'm not sure (and I do need to read more - I basically read fast and try to hit the highlights) that the inate problem was touched on in the article about "is it ethical to neuter" ..umm, how was it put "controlled"? "non-breeding"? Anyway...if a dog is NOT meant for breeding, I'm still trying to figure out how it is anything BUT ethical to neuter him? His basic drive is to reproduce. That's how nature made him.

I need to read more because I must have missed this topic in the studies. How is it helpful to a dog to be "controlled" or whatever you want to call it..kept from mating..and NOT neuter him? That's like purposeful torture, in my mind. The dog is meant by nature to breed. He's not allowed to by ME but I don't take that inate drive away from him? That's just mean and sick if you ask me.

Please tell me I missed that part of the "ethics" study....

lexi43 05-12-2013 08:26 AM
We're still waiting to neuter Oliver. He is 2 years old and so far every time we've taken him to be neutered something prevented it. 1st it was his liver, then it was juvenile cataracts he was successful in his surgery and now he has to go through the same thing for his other eye. It's not like we aren't trying.

DvlshAngel985 05-12-2013 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lexi43 (Post 4211442)
We're still waiting to neuter Oliver. He is 2 years old and so far every time we've taken him to be neutered something prevented it. 1st it was his liver, then it was juvenile cataracts he was successful in his surgery and now he has to go through the same thing for his other eye. It's not like we aren't trying.
This to me is completely understandable. Oliver's over all health is so important and should come first. As long as you're being extra careful, you'll be all right. Hugs to Oliver! Sounds like he's been through quite a bit already. :love:

Lovetodream88 05-12-2013 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MandiesMom (Post 4211387)
I'm going to do some more reading based on the info some of you have posted here.

I'm not sure (and I do need to read more - I basically read fast and try to hit the highlights) that the inate problem was touched on in the article about "is it ethical to neuter" ..umm, how was it put "controlled"? "non-breeding"? Anyway...if a dog is NOT meant for breeding, I'm still trying to figure out how it is anything BUT ethical to neuter him? His basic drive is to reproduce. That's how nature made him.

I need to read more because I must have missed this topic in the studies. How is it helpful to a dog to be "controlled" or whatever you want to call it..kept from mating..and NOT neuter him? That's like purposeful torture, in my mind. The dog is meant by nature to breed. He's not allowed to by ME but I don't take that inate drive away from him? That's just mean and sick if you ask me.

Please tell me I missed that part of the "ethics" study....
That is one of the reasons I am for neutering

DvlshAngel985 05-12-2013 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 4211227)
That was totally wrong for that guy to bring a female in heat to a dog park. Most people that don't know that a neutered male can still breed a female in heat, he just can't get them pregnant.
That was definitely a learning moment for me.
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Originally Posted by Lil Sis (Post 4211243)
I personally think the guy was a jerk. Who in their right mind would bring a female to a dog park in heat???????
Like I said, some people lack good judgement and basic common sense. I don't take Kaji to dog parks anymore. Instead, he has play dates with his BFFs or neighbor's dogs. He has a blast and it's drama free. :)

Nancy1999 05-12-2013 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 4211227)
That was totally wrong for that guy to bring a female in heat to a dog park. Most people that don't know that a neutered male can still breed a female in heat, he just can't get them pregnant.
Wow, I didn't know this, thanks for the information.

MomtoJasper 05-12-2013 09:23 AM
I'm going to have Jasper neutered at 6-8 months. He is 4 mos now. The vet suggested 6. After reading all of these posts I'm not sure if I shouldn't wait until much longer. I'm confused. :confused:

lynzy420 05-12-2013 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MomtoJasper (Post 4211489)
I'm going to have Jasper neutered at 6-8 months. He is 4 mos now. The vet suggested 6. After reading all of these posts I'm not sure if I shouldn't wait until much longer. I'm confused. :confused:
This is why you need to read all the information take it with you the vet and have a discussion about it. Each pup is different and each should be handled differently. I've had 26 dogs not a one was the same as the other, not one.

Oh and for the record, all of my dogs were spayed/neutered prior to first heat/at recommended age. All of my dogs lived and exceeded the average age. (save for the couple tragedies).

My oldest just missed his 17th birthday by weeks, a Black Lab named Shine!!!

lynzy420 05-12-2013 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MomtoJasper (Post 4211489)
I'm going to have Jasper neutered at 6-8 months. He is 4 mos now. The vet suggested 6. After reading all of these posts I'm not sure if I shouldn't wait until much longer. I'm confused. :confused:
btw, Jasper is too freaking cute!!!

bjh 05-12-2013 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4211471)
Wow, I didn't know this, thanks for the information.
Lol, you mean you missed all the threads on YT where people were freaking out because their neutered male tied with their female in heat?? Yes, it can happen. That is why it is important to keep females in heat away from all males.

Another thing that people should know is that some unspayed females can be just as bad about marking their territory as males.


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