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yakkwak 03-12-2013 10:52 PM

For you in US/US Territories...It has begun
 
When you take that adorable ball of fur to hsi or her next vet appt., be ready. Vet offices are already posting warning signs of things to come - and coming soon they are. The current administration did not exclude those used for animals when they created and slapped on enormous taxes to all medical equipment and related assundries (hopefully, I'll be lucky and find a way to pay the new rate for my next pacemaker - but I digress. Well, what this means for your little hair balls is this: much higher costs on anything from an x-ray, CT,equipment used in cutting and resetting bones, cauterizers for surgery, sterilized intubation packets, sterilization equipment (I know, because my brother has company that sells that stuff), and many, many more items that do not come immediately to mind.

yakkwak 03-12-2013 11:04 PM

Too Slow on the Edit
 
Sorry for the typos; tried to correct them - took too long so they left it as is.

kimp5 03-13-2013 02:45 AM

ughhh:2omg:

Yorkiemom1 03-13-2013 03:48 AM

As Connie Francis sang, "Right or Wrong....", As Tammy Wynett sang, "Stand By Your Man"......Unfortunately, we ALL are about to reap what was sown, and it is going to cost us dearly!

Verbena 03-13-2013 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4159429)
As Connie Francis sang, "Right or Wrong....", As Tammy Wynett sang, "Stand By Your Man"......Unfortunately, we ALL are about to reap what was sown, and it is going to cost us dearly!

Perfectly said

navillusc 03-13-2013 04:36 AM

It never ends, does it? There just does not seem to be enough 'mouse (and/or voting precinct) warriors' in existance anymore to protect rights and checkbooks..:eek::confused::(:mad:

carmen in nj 03-13-2013 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4159429)
As Connie Francis sang, "Right or Wrong....", As Tammy Wynett sang, "Stand By Your Man"......Unfortunately, we ALL are about to reap what was sown, and it is going to cost us dearly!

:thumbup::thumbup: My feelings exactly!!

Lovetodream88 03-13-2013 07:11 AM

Well that is going to make even more people not get vet care for there pets when it's needed...... Ugh

MI Yorkielover 03-13-2013 07:21 AM

Everything is out of control. I fear for our animals, our people and our country's future.

yakkwak 03-13-2013 08:22 AM

My Point!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4159614)
Well that is going to make even more people not get vet care for there pets when it's needed...... Ugh

Exactly! Very concerning.

LoALAnna 03-13-2013 08:28 AM

Personally, I think we need to wait and see. I think this is just another scare tactic.

Please do not flame me for this comment, ok?

nanahas3 03-13-2013 08:59 AM

I pray for our country daily and my opinion is I leave it in Gods hands because there sure as heck isn't much I can do about it. As one of the older ones here it is going to effect us alot but getting depressed about it only hurts me.

Yorkiedaze 03-13-2013 09:42 AM

This may stop and cut down some breeding programs, and there will be many more pets ending up needing homes, and a rise in price to purchase from a reputable breeder. It will be a domino effect that will not be good at all for a long time, but it may only strengthen puppy mills, since they don't Vet. their animals and still people buy from them thru pet shops & private homes. These are some troubling times we live in for sure.

yakkwak 03-13-2013 10:18 AM

Not Sure What You Mean
 
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Originally Posted by LoALAnna (Post 4159657)
Personally, I think we need to wait and see. I think this is just another scare tactic.

Please do not flame me for this comment, ok?

If you're referring to the vet's, true that I cannot speak for them; just passing along what they are doing (not their intention). Slight improbable chance that they're just trying to "scare" others.
If you're referring to my contention, I NEVER try to "just scare" anybody. That'd be stupid. Why would I waste my time trying to "just scare" readers on a dog breed forum? It wouldn't serve any purpose! For Pete's sake! Please!
I have it on very good authority - as I mentioned, my family member's company. No way is their being notified of increased taxes "another scare tactic". Like I said, to date, there is no exemption for animals. If you breathe and you need these medical items, an increased tax will accompany them.
BTW, and only to support my point, my EP (a special kind of cardiologist) did, in fact, tell me that they expect VERY significant increases in specialized medical equipment such as the one I require.
Just the facts.
Not "flaming", just evaluating your logic.
Just the facts, ma'am.

yakkwak 03-13-2013 10:30 AM

The law has already taken effect. Rarely are devices/equipment used for animals ONLY. Those that are (many are bovine, equine related) are exempt. ALL others are being taxed (not will be taxed) - ARE being taxed, as a lot of medical equipment/devices are multi-species.
The future is now. Why "wait and see"?

Medical Device Excise Tax

As 2013 Begins, Get Ready For An ObamaCare Tax Onslaught - Forbes

http://www.us.kpmg.com/microsite/tax...ise.v5_web.pdf


An ignorant populace is an extinct populace.

Yorkiemom1 03-13-2013 10:32 AM

And you know how things can get twisted around to make what would seem like it would be exempt, suddenly is swept up in the frey....well, I was JUST falling asleep and heard on the TV...but did not catch it all, or how it is going to work specifically, but CELL PHONES, I think those Smart phones, are somehow going to get swooped up and somehow included in this "medical device" thing....boy, just LOOK at all the billions of dollars in taxes collected off the inclusion of smart phones as medical devices!!!!! All you breeders had better quick buy dopplers if you are wanting them....stethoscopes and blood pressure monitoring devices as well...blood sugar machines too....did I mention hearing aides????.....eye glasses????

chachi 03-13-2013 10:38 AM

This country is going in the wrong direction and has been. With increased taxes and increased regulations we are already paying more for alot of things and it will just continue as they want increased revenue

Yorkiedaze 03-13-2013 10:42 AM

Here is some information: snopes.com: Medical Device Excise Tax

MI Yorkielover 03-13-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4159752)
This country is going in the wrong direction and has been. With increased taxes and increased regulations we are already paying more for alot of things and it will just continue as they want increased revenue

True and very well said.

My lil friend 03-13-2013 12:23 PM

At our house it will mean,less fluffy spending (not that there was much to begin with), more saving so the $$ will be there for pets and people. Yes it is going to get tuffer all the way around. You can choose to be scared,not really a productive option or you can choose to work towards being prepared. I am in my mid 50s,from here it doesnt look very good. Right now I have 3 family members in a nursing facility (the same one thank goodness) for various reasons and it is tuff.

Cherie6446 03-13-2013 12:27 PM

, we ALL are about to reap what was sown, and it is going to cost us dearly![/QUOTE]

Been saying this for 4 years!!

Jacksmom052709 03-13-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4159675)
I pray for our country daily and my opinion is I leave it in Gods hands because there sure as heck isn't much I can do about it. As one of the older ones here it is going to effect us alot but getting depressed about it only hurts me.

Amen Charlene! Hubby and I pray daily that God will help our leaders make the right choices.... Like you said, not much we can do about it.

brezofleur 03-13-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4159752)
This country is going in the wrong direction and has been. With increased taxes and increased regulations we are already paying more for alot of things and it will just continue as they want increased revenue

Agreed.

I wish more people would speak up instead of saying "that sucks, but what can I do?"

Sign a petition or march to congress...the more voices that are raised the more that they'll be forced to do.

Don't forget that the government is supposed to work for The People. NOT the other way around.

MI Yorkielover 03-14-2013 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brezofleur (Post 4160077)
Agreed.

I wish more people would speak up instead of saying "that sucks, but what can I do?"

Sign a petition or march to congress...the more voices that are raised the more that they'll be forced to do.

Don't forget that the government is supposed to work for The People. NOT the other way around.

:thumbup::thumbup:

gracielove 03-14-2013 04:32 AM

Since the new health care laws were made in an attempt to lower current health care costs for humans I fail to see why our pet's medical costs for equipment or otherwise should be effected. We already pay huge amounts of money when going to a vet. Why should we have to suffer increases in our pet's vet bills? Someone needs to take a close look at this. Something is not right.

MI Yorkielover 03-14-2013 07:25 AM

Well... the new healthcare laws are certainly not lowering healthcare costs for most of us although that's what the claim was. The exact opposite is true! Unfortunately medical equipment,cost of medicines, doctors, vets and our insurance is all rising. They make no distinction between animals and people. You can bet it will get even worse in 2014.

Maximo 03-14-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4160257)
Since the new health care laws were made in an attempt to lower current health care costs for humans I fail to see why our pet's medical costs for equipment or otherwise should be effected. We already pay huge amounts of money when going to a vet. Why should we have to suffer increases in our pet's vet bills? Someone needs to take a close look at this. Something is not right.

The new health care laws were not intended to lower health care costs. Someone always pays somewhere. The only way prices could be lowered would be to legislate caps on prices of care and equipment.

The intent was to make healthcare available to the uninsured by shifting the cost elsewhere -- i.e. through taxes on everyone, and to businesses with employees, which in turn pass the cost along to customers through price increases.

brezofleur 03-14-2013 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4160354)
The new health care laws were not intended to lower health care costs. Someone always pays somewhere. The only way prices could be lowered would be to legislate caps on prices of care and equipment.

The intent was to make healthcare available to the uninsured by shifting the cost elsewhere -- i.e. through taxes on everyone, and to businesses with employees, which in turn pass the cost along to customers through price increases.

Exactly.

JMuedog 03-14-2013 08:51 AM

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