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pookybear 02-12-2013 06:15 PM

you guys are fun, thank you :)

AllDogBoots 02-12-2013 06:18 PM

Why does your dog's weight matter so much to you?

Ldyrev1 02-12-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 4133521)
I really do not understand the obsession over his size and a six pound dog is not HUGE

I think this thread is not an obsession but an attempt to see how many people's yorkie's actually follow the idea that at 12 weeks you can double...to get the yorkie's weight at adulthood. No obsession, just curiosity. I like research too pookybear!!

I can't add info because Princess Sophie is only 9 weeks old at this point.
Good luck I'd be interested in hearing if any yorkie has fit this pattern??

pookybear 02-12-2013 06:34 PM

Hey before I bought Pooky-Bear I had a terrible case of obsession/compulsion to get him! lololol I couldn't cook, couldn't turn off the idea, dreamt about him so this is just the 1st week continuation, which for some like me, is normal to be curious about weights. And dumb me, I didn't ask the breeder, who went out of town for a dog show!! I think he's in Cuba! So asking here...I've rephrased this question in several different ways so some of this is already in another thread.

I promise Pooky will be a healthy weight. He was bought on purpose by a reputable breeder after I explained to him my physical situation. Then I got to wondering about different things and how it all works out. What spurred this thread was a response by a Yorkie named Faith from another thread running, who MADE the chart! I thought WOW! That's a first! So the inspiration for this thread came from Faith! I wondered how many other Yorkies out there, and there seems to be a LOT on this forum, actually MADE THE CHART! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/4132998-post20.html
So far, Faith seems to hold the crown! :bravo::cheer::notworthy

And since we couldn't find anyone to post, we turned it into a free for all, lolol :)

MarliQQ 02-12-2013 06:36 PM

Lol pookie be careful, a lot of these messages left on this thread appear to be a bit cutting. I dont understand why everyone on here jumped to conclusion that you were starving your dog. I understand your excitement about wanting to know anything and everything about your puppy. People on YT jump on their soapboxes too fast when they need to stop and think that your average dog owner is not going to join this forum, so the fact that you did, shows you are attempting to perfect something in regards to your relationship with YOUR dog.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with you having a preference in regards to how your dog looks. Humans have all sorts of preferences for their own appearances an that of others, wonder how dogs got exemption...

nanahas3 02-12-2013 06:52 PM

Humans have a little more control over how they look these little ones are what they are. Withholding food will make it unhealthy not just smaller. Mine both hit the chart almost exactly but even if they were 30lbs I would love them anyway. We got the idea about feeding because pookie posted in another thread that her vet said to feed him less and he would grow up smaller. I am sure she loves her dog and will do whats best for him. I feed mine special meals twice a day and they free graze the rest of the day. I think when they tend to overeat and get to heavy for their frame is when we give to many treats or the wrong types of food.

bchgirl 02-12-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4133597)
I think this thread is not an obsession but an attempt to see how many people's yorkie's actually follow the idea that at 12 weeks you can double...to get the yorkie's weight at adulthood. No obsession, just curiosity. I like research too pookybear!!

I can't add info because Princess Sophie is only 9 weeks old at this point.
Good luck I'd be interested in hearing if any yorkie has fit this pattern??

The OP has started multiple threads on the same subject.

bchgirl 02-12-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4133597)
I think this thread is not an obsession but an attempt to see how many people's yorkie's actually follow the idea that at 12 weeks you can double...to get the yorkie's weight at adulthood. No obsession, just curiosity. I like research too pookybear!!

I can't add info because Princess Sophie is only 9 weeks old at this point.
Good luck I'd be interested in hearing if any yorkie has fit this pattern??

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...rediction.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...g-parents.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...lt-yorkie.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...kie-weigh.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ade-chart.html

Wylie's Mom 02-12-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4133036)
Please stay on topic and refrain from arguing starting comments stating, "each is individual, you can't tell," which aren't welcome because some of these pups do arrive and I'd like to see what their owners have to say...just interesting.

Just fyi, people can phrase their responses however they like. If you start a thread, you can expect discussion - and it's not the sort of discussion where you can dictate what people say, how they say it, or what they shall refrain from. All members ARE WELCOME to post on this thread as they see fit.

GuinnessStout 02-12-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4133558)
Well, at least if we can't find any that made the chart, I don't have to worry about muddling through all the posts to find the one's that did! Heck, let's change this to the fattest Yorkie thread! :cheer::2oh59::sidesplt:

Wow... My Guinness is my child and might I add a 12.8 lb fur-child that is solid muscle no fat.... Soooo with that being said maybe we should change this topic to immature and childish name calling because somebody is not getting their way and the answers they expect??? :rolleyes:

pookybear 02-12-2013 09:11 PM

The best one was the 13 weeks thread... This one was a bomb but can't say I didn't try.
Still no answer on the father being within a pound larger than the mother results and the person that could answer my questions of how do you know must have fallen asleep back on the first page :) all you kids with muscular dogs, take the thead...converse with yourselves.

Lovetodream88 02-12-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4133519)
Thank you Gennies, glad to find a comrade! :)

speaking of people...nutrition and food quality has so much to do with how people grow...I live near some of the most poverty you've ever seen. In the news this past week a baby died of malnutrition. It's heart breaking. But I'm looking at this from my back's point of view as well. I want him healthy but the smallest healthy weight he can be, which will be best for my back. If that's 6 pounds, it will be a challenge for me but not impossible. That is the highest I think he'd get but like the vet recommended, don't feed him a lot. I refuse to starve him, that's sick! But if he'd also be just as healthy at 4 pounds, than heck ya, I want to feed him in that direction. Right now, I'm feeding him according the Royal Canine chart for his weight category.

If your back is such a problem why did you not just get an adult that you know the size of? I can't help but think you are going to starve your pup sorry but your obsession points to that.....

Lovetodream88 02-12-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4133558)
Well, at least if we can't find any that made the chart, I don't have to worry about muddling through all the posts to find the one's that did! Heck, let's change this to the fattest Yorkie thread! :cheer::2oh59::sidesplt:

A bigger yorkie doesn't have to be fat.....

Lovetodream88 02-12-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarliQQ (Post 4133610)
Lol pookie be careful, a lot of these messages left on this thread appear to be a bit cutting. I dont understand why everyone on here jumped to conclusion that you were starving your dog. I understand your excitement about wanting to know anything and everything about your puppy. People on YT jump on their soapboxes too fast when they need to stop and think that your average dog owner is not going to join this forum, so the fact that you did, shows you are attempting to perfect something in regards to your relationship with YOUR dog.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with you having a preference in regards to how your dog looks. Humans have all sorts of preferences for their own appearances an that of others, wonder how dogs got exemption...

maybe you should check out her post history its almost all about weight.

Lovetodream88 02-12-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4133606)
Hey before I bought Pooky-Bear I had a terrible case of obsession/compulsion to get him! lololol I couldn't cook, couldn't turn off the idea, dreamt about him so this is just the 1st week continuation, which for some like me, is normal to be curious about weights. And dumb me, I didn't ask the breeder, who went out of town for a dog show!! I think he's in Cuba! So asking here...I've rephrased this question in several different ways so some of this is already in another thread.

I promise Pooky will be a healthy weight. He was bought on purpose by a reputable breeder after I explained to him my physical situation. Then I got to wondering about different things and how it all works out. What spurred this thread was a response by a Yorkie named Faith from another thread running, who MADE the chart! I thought WOW! That's a first! So the inspiration for this thread came from Faith! I wondered how many other Yorkies out there, and there seems to be a LOT on this forum, actually MADE THE CHART! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/4132998-post20.html
So far, Faith seems to hold the crown! :bravo::cheer::notworthy

And since we couldn't find anyone to post, we turned it into a free for all, lolol :)

You have had a couple of breeders on here tell you that you wont know the size for sure until the pup is fully grown therefor its gonna be the same with your breeder but he might not tell you the same thing but lie and say what you want to hear. Is that what you are looking for in all these posts what you want to hear?

TxVicki 02-13-2013 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4133892)
The best one was the 13 weeks thread... This one was a bomb but can't say I didn't try.
Still no answer on the father being within a pound larger than the mother results and the person that could answer my questions of how do you know must have fallen asleep back on the first page :) all you kids with muscular dogs, take the thead...converse with yourselves.

Really !!!!

pookybear 02-13-2013 05:17 AM

After this post, i'm done defending myself, reading complaints and worries. There were two breeders that wrote and said THEY could tell what size the puppy would weigh. An experienced breeder can. Too bad some people can't respect others and stay on topic. I'm done watching this thread.

sugarmamma 02-13-2013 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4134079)
After this post, i'm done defending myself, reading complaints and worries. There were two breeders that wrote and said THEY could tell what size the puppy would weigh. An experienced breeder can. Too bad some people can't respect others and stay on topic. I'm done watching this thread.

I believe they said they can tell what size THEIR puppies will be that they have lineage on going back a dozen generations.

No guarantees on puppy weights is basically what we all seem to agree on. Puppy weight is the topic, right? Here in the USA and most European countries, we don't feed to achieve a certain weight we feed to nourish the frame they were born with.

Wylie's Mom 02-13-2013 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4134079)
After this post, i'm done defending myself, reading complaints and worries. There were two breeders that wrote and said THEY could tell what size the puppy would weigh. An experienced breeder can. Too bad some people can't respect others and stay on topic. I'm done watching this thread.

Subject: weight
What people actually discussed: weight

Looks like the thread stayed on topic.

rilysmom 02-13-2013 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4134079)
After this post, i'm done defending myself, reading complaints and worries. There were two breeders that wrote and said THEY could tell what size the puppy would weigh. An experienced breeder can. Too bad some people can't respect others and stay on topic. I'm done watching this thread.

I wish your puppy the very best in his precious little life.....may he grew to to the size he is suppose to be and live a long and healthy life. :)

Wylie's Mom 02-13-2013 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rilysmom (Post 4134092)
I wish your puppy the very best in his precious little life.....may he grew to to the size he is suppose to be and live a long and healthy life. :)

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: As far as puppies go, one couldn't ask for more!

OP - Size is (mostly) predetermined, but not really so linear where a person can just predict infallibly. Even the very best breeders will tell you it's somewhat unethical to say that they can predict size for you. That doesn't mean if they discuss it theoretically, they're unethical...it just means that since they all know it's just a prediction, it means it could utterly be wrong since outliers will always change the game.

At the end of the day, weight only means something when it has to do with being overweight or underweight. Dog owners should just shoot for "right weight" and that's it.

If weight is causing you this much anxiety, it may be worthwhile to consider giving the puppy back to the breeder, and instead getting an adult who is at the weight that you are desiring.

Maximo 02-13-2013 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4134126)
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: As far as puppies go, one couldn't ask for more!

OP - Size is (mostly) predetermined, but not really so linear where a person can just predict infallibly. Even the very best breeders will tell you it's somewhat unethical to say that they can predict size for you. That doesn't mean if they discuss it theoretically, they're unethical...it just means that since they all know it's just a prediction, it means it could utterly be wrong since outliers will always change the game.

At the end of the day, weight only means something when it has to do with being overweight or underweight. Dog owners should just shoot for "right weight" and that's it.

If weight is causing you this much anxiety, it may be worthwhile to consider giving the puppy back to the breeder, and instead getting an adult who is at the weight that you are desiring.

:thumbup::thumbup:

Experienced breeder exhibitors can make great guesses on which of their pups will be show dogs, but they always say, "if the dog doesn't fall apart." (fall apart = develop in such a way that would not make a good show dog) There are no guarantees.

I agree with Ann that an adult dog would be a better choice for someone highly concerned with a specific weight.

Verbena 02-13-2013 07:14 AM

I am making sure Galen eats 3 times a day. And he has food out all day long. I am trying to make sure he eats. I keep measuring his food to make sure he at least gets what he is suppose to. If I can get him to eat more, I am so excited.

GuinnessStout 02-13-2013 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rilysmom (Post 4134092)
I wish your puppy the very best in his precious little life.....may he grew to to the size he is suppose to be and live a long and healthy life. :)

Is it wrong of me to also wish her pup ends up being one of those rare 20lbers?? :p

Harrysmum 02-13-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuinnessStout (Post 4134180)
Is it wrong of me to also wish her pup ends up being one of those rare 20lbers?? :p

I am not saying a word.....!!! :p Even though my fingers seem to be taking on a twitchy life of their own....:eek: :D Sally + Lumpy x

Yorkiemom1 02-13-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4134126)
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: As far as puppies go, one couldn't ask for more!

OP - Size is (mostly) predetermined, but not really so linear where a person can just predict infallibly. Even the very best breeders will tell you it's somewhat unethical to say that they can predict size for you. That doesn't mean if they discuss it theoretically, they're unethical...it just means that since they all know it's just a prediction, it means it could utterly be wrong since outliers will always change the game.

At the end of the day, weight only means something when it has to do with being overweight or underweight. Dog owners should just shoot for "right weight" and that's it.

If weight is causing you this much anxiety, it may be worthwhile to consider giving the puppy back to the breeder, and instead getting an adult who is at the weight that you are desiring.


:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Excellent idea...problem solved.....get an adult that fits into what you are wanting in your dog, rather than trying to make the dog fit into what YOU want, by hook or crook. That way, what you see is what you get, no charts, no guessing, no starvation diets.......

Lovetodream88 02-13-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pookybear (Post 4134079)
After this post, i'm done defending myself, reading complaints and worries. There were two breeders that wrote and said THEY could tell what size the puppy would weigh. An experienced breeder can. Too bad some people can't respect others and stay on topic. I'm done watching this thread.

That is not true an experienced breeder can tell what there pups normally range but they can not for certain tell you a weight as a fact its just a guess.

Lovetodream88 02-13-2013 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuinnessStout (Post 4134180)
Is it wrong of me to also wish her pup ends up being one of those rare 20lbers?? :p

Well if it is where both going to be wrong together :D lol

BaxterBaby 02-13-2013 08:30 AM

I'm sorry but I don't understand your post. You are asking to hear from ONLY those who made the charts. There are probably one who didn't for every one who did. If you don't want to hear from those who didn't, how are you going to compare?

sugarmamma 02-13-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaxterBaby (Post 4134245)
I'm sorry but I don't understand your post. You are asking to hear from ONLY those who made the charts. There are probably one who didn't for every one who did. If you don't want to hear from those who didn't, how are you going to compare?

She doesn't want to compare.....


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