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Verbena 08-05-2012 01:05 PM
Biewer puppies
 
I am so in love with these puppies. I thought finding a breeder for Yorkies were bad. Wow I did not realize how hard it is to find a Biewer puppy. Let alone a puppy in the Tri State area.:animal-pa

msyorktown 08-05-2012 01:13 PM
Try Breny on here. I believe she is in Michigan. Brenda Green...Greenwood Yorkshire Terriers. She has Biewers. Good Luck. Also did you try the Ytca website? I'm waiting to bring my Biewer home, but she was purchased here...Canada...Niagara Biewers. Maybe someone else know of a breeder in your area. Hope this helps.
Jacqui.

AlwaysTexas 08-05-2012 01:15 PM
i feel your pain
 
I'm still looking too! I've got some great leads though and I'm hopeful I will be adding to my furbaby family soon. Good luck in your search!

Verbena 08-05-2012 04:34 PM
Has anyone had their dog sent by courier ? Never actually playing with the dog only seeing pictures?

BiewerYorkie 08-05-2012 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysTexas (Post 3988650)
I'm still looking too! I've got some great leads though and I'm hopeful I will be adding to my furbaby family soon. Good luck in your search!
I got my Biewer in Clearlake close to Houston. Tiny Paws and Claws is the name of the breeder. She has just a couple litters of Biewers a year but if you contact her, maybe she will know when she might have some.

Louise

kaytee21 08-05-2012 07:25 PM
I also live in Michigan and am looking to get a beiwer in a few months :)

concretegurl 08-06-2012 12:41 AM
Personally I would not get a Biewer.
I'd look for an AKC parti, you can seek a parti breeder who doesnt dock tails, many will put you on a waiting list and leave that option open to you.

Breny is very well known for wonderful gappy healthy pups on here, there are a few others as well.

Verbena 08-06-2012 03:11 AM
Oh really why?

bchgirl 08-13-2012 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 3988924)
Oh really why?
I would love an answer to this also.

SoSoNYC1 08-13-2012 04:49 PM
I have a biewer. Love her silly. Lol I know exactly where to get my next one from. A beautiful person in Florida with great reputation and doggies. :)

luvlee 08-13-2012 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3994090)
I would love an answer to this also.

BECAUSE: many people challenge whether Biewer is really part of the Yorkshire Terrier breed. Some say that the pups created by a guy named Biewer (in Germany in the 1980s) have "some other" white dog mixed into the line. I don't know hte whole story. They're not recognized by the AKC whereas the partis are.

You can find lots of stuff on this controversy online. I don't take any position on it one way or the other.

Good luck. Tracey

BLowry 08-13-2012 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 3988642)
I am so in love with these puppies. I thought finding a breeder for Yorkies were bad. Wow I did not realize how hard it is to find a Biewer puppy. Let alone a puppy in the Tri State area.:animal-pa
someone on here is selling a 5 month old biewer male (I think) he is GORGEOUS. I THINK she was asking 500.00 for him because he is going to be on the bigger side.

concretegurl 08-13-2012 09:22 PM
Sorry! Been busy.the why was for me right? Thought it was clear in my post.

I only want AKC dogs.

I dont doubt Biewers as being Yorkies total opposite I don't like it being challenged to have them AKC eeg accepted as a different breed.

I love my Tricolored (full parti) yorkie!

Ive heard there is a general health decline in biewer to biewer breeding but a parti can be bred into biewer lines and the pups can be reg IBC...so I was told.

I wish the YTCA would get over it and accept them so we'd see tge vettermebt of their breeding standards.

Hope thay helps why my opinion is such.

concretegurl 08-13-2012 09:29 PM
A biewer came from a parti thats how they came to be only they were exclusively selectively line bred.

Im lost on the rest once a dog isnt bred ti an AKC its out for the pups.

Biewers partis and YTCA standard Yorkies ALL DNA tge same hense I beleive they are ALL Yorkies, period.

bchgirl 08-14-2012 05:53 PM
Biewers did not evolve from partis. Especially since they occurred almost 10 years prior

msyorktown 08-14-2012 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3994802)
Biewers did not evolve from partis. Especially since they occurred almost 10 years prior
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they the offspring of the traditional yorkie? I'm not sure of the exact genetics..but Mr. Biewer developed them in Germany..color recessive gene? Sorry for my ignorance on all of the exact history..but I thought that's how it went. Biewer breeders out there help me out please? Thanks

luvlee 08-14-2012 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by msyorktown (Post 3994817)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they the offspring of the traditional yorkie? I'm not sure of the exact genetics..but Mr. Biewer developed them in Germany..color recessive gene? Sorry for my ignorance on all of the exact history..but I thought that's how it went. Biewer breeders out there help me out please? Thanks

I'm not a Biewer breeder - but there are questions about how the line was developed. There's yorkie in there for sure. I think some say that the Biewer doesn't have the recessive tricolor gene. It's confusing and the story changes depending on who you talk to.

msyorktown 08-14-2012 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by luvlee (Post 3994820)
I'm not a Biewer breeder - but there are questions about how the line was developed. There's yorkie in there for sure. I think some say that the Biewer doesn't have the recessive tricolor gene. It's confusing and the story changes depending on who you talk to.
It is very confusing! No matter to me...I love them! Jersey my little biewer girl comes home the first week of September....this has been the longest 6wks in history! She is now 9wks old..three more to go!

GreenwoodBiewer 08-14-2012 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3994802)
Biewers did not evolve from partis. Especially since they occurred almost 10 years prior
Deb, you are correct, Biewers did not evolve from Partis, HOWEVER.. the Biewer did not occurre 10 years prior to the parti.. according to verified documentation found by Deb Mullins, Joan Gordan had a Parti colored yorkie in one of her litters named "Trippy", born on Dec. 10, 1976.. Joan states in a letter written to Deb, that she had heard of other tri colored yorkies born in England, but this is the first one she had personally seen. Other documentation shows that the Nikkos line was producing Tri colored "Parti" yorkies from Nikko's Rolls Royce Ashley since 1984, actually, the same year that Mr. Biewers yorkie line produced the tri colored yorkshire terrier that was later called the Biewer Yorkshire Terrier ala Pom Pon.

It seems that no matter what side of the POND the yorkies happen to be on.. they produce tri colored dogs if you breed two dogs that carry the recessive genes together. One did not CREATE the other.. they STARTED as Yorkies and YORKIES they remain.

-Diana :animal-pa

iheartdessert 08-14-2012 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by msyorktown (Post 3994827)
It is very confusing! No matter to me...I love them! Jersey my little biewer girl comes home the first week of September....this has been the longest 6wks in history! She is now 9wks old..three more to go!
Haha I agree this whole debate about Biewers is confusing! My Dany is a Biewer and she's 12 weeks old. Love her to bits! :D

concretegurl 08-14-2012 07:36 PM
I thought Mrs Biewer announced they got a tricolored yorkie from wind something kennels and this is part of why we know multiple parti lines came from champion tradition lines not just Nikkos...searching for the letter link I was shown.

msyorktown 08-15-2012 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 3994848)
Deb, you are correct, Biewers did not evolve from Partis, HOWEVER.. the Biewer did not occurre 10 years prior to the parti.. according to verified documentation found by Deb Mullins, Joan Gordan had a Parti colored yorkie in one of her litters named "Trippy", born on Dec. 10, 1976.. Joan states in a letter written to Deb, that she had heard of other tri colored yorkies born in England, but this is the first one she had personally seen. Other documentation shows that the Nikkos line was producing Tri colored "Parti" yorkies from Nikko's Rolls Royce Ashley since 1984, actually, the same year that Mr. Biewers yorkie line produced the tri colored yorkshire terrier that was later called the Biewer Yorkshire Terrier ala Pom Pon.

It seems that no matter what side of the POND the yorkies happen to be on.. they produce tri colored dogs if you breed two dogs that carry the recessive genes together. One did not CREATE the other.. they STARTED as Yorkies and YORKIES they remain.

-Diana :animal-pa
Thank you Diana, that's what I thought.

GreenwoodBiewer 08-15-2012 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3994862)
I thought Mrs Biewer announced they got a tricolored yorkie from wind something kennels and this is part of why we know multiple parti lines came from champion tradition lines not just Nikkos...searching for the letter link I was shown.
The Biewers got some traditionally colored yorkies from the Stremglen kennels, they did not realize they had gotten a dog/dogs with the recessive gene as they are dormant gene and are a hidden and only become visable when mated with another dog with that gene. Eventually, they had a puppy that displayed the tri colored markings.. it did not happen right away. It is confusing..

Diana :animal-pa

GreenwoodBiewer 08-15-2012 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 3995022)
The Biewers got some traditionally colored yorkies from the Stremglen kennels, they did not realize they had gotten a dog/dogs with the recessive gene as they are dormant gene and are a hidden and only become visable when mated with another dog with that gene. Eventually, they had a puppy that displayed the tri colored markings.. it did not happen right away. It is confusing..

Diana :animal-pa
Stremglen also sold puppies to kennels in the states and the parti lines have been traced to Nikkos lines. I don't belive that StremGlen is the only line of parti (tri colored) yorkies however in the states as there seem to be other lines here, the Biewer line is the only line of the tri colored yorkie in Germany that is really documented to my knowledge.

Diana :animal-pa

GreenwoodBiewer 08-15-2012 04:02 AM
:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by msyorktown (Post 3995011)
Thank you Diana, that's what I thought.

concretegurl 08-15-2012 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 3995022)
The Biewers got some traditionally colored yorkies from the Stremglen kennels, they did not realize they had gotten a dog/dogs with the recessive gene as they are dormant gene and are a hidden and only become visable when mated with another dog with that gene. Eventually, they had a puppy that displayed the tri colored markings.. it did not happen right away. It is confusing..

Diana :animal-pa
Thanks for correcting me! I knew I heard something about it and baby just broke out pc ao I cant look up all my bookmarks...

Is that kennel in Germany from an original Scottish kennel right?


Im really into mini schnauzers too I have a blond (white) mini schnauzer some schnauzer ppl have said yhe parti mega coat mini schnauzers were a cross from biewers bred into them...calling them white yorkies schnauzer mixes...nothing on that is cerified though and the breeders who breed them say its also simply a recessice gene and the nega coat is only due to selective breedibg of a gene mutation...

GreenwoodBiewer 08-15-2012 02:55 PM
Actually, Stremglen kennel was in England..

bchgirl 08-17-2012 03:39 PM
Regardless of people's "opinions"... biewers are now recognized as a breed of their own in many countries. The US is not far before.
The related ancestor in the stream glen dogs adds nothing genetically to the biewers of today.
Much like the Skye terrier background or other dogs involved in the development of the Yorkshire terrier.


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