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Pet Restraints - Not So Restraining? |
That is highly disturbing to watch, even with a dummy dog! These people are taking our money and not keeping our pets safe at all! Even the one that held a bit sure didn't keep that dog from being jerked around & flying off the seat violently! Wow! Thanks, Britster. We all need to know this. |
That's terrifying!!!! |
Thanks for the link! I just got my Pet Gear car seat in the mail today. I am hoping it will offer more security and safety for day-to-day driving but I don't know how it would fare in a major crash like the ones they show in the demos = / We just have to do the best that we can but it's a little unnerving when companies claim to test their products and then you see results like this. I wonder how the results would vary with a smaller dog dummy. |
I use the Choke Free PawRider Ultra Easy ChokeFree & PawRider Pet Seatbelt Adapter (USA) I would be very interested to see how it preforms in these tests. SO scary :eek: :eek: |
Thanks so much for sharing! I tried everything for my Yorkie, but she "houdinied" her way out of everything...harnesses, car seats etc. I finally resorted to putting her and my other dog in a metal crate that I have tied down...It may not be the only solution, but I feel better knowing that they are contained and safe. |
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It's good to have a car seat but if you do not have a good secure harness on the dog with a strong connection. Velcro is not going to keep a dog from flying to someone or something. I prefer to use a sturdy travel crate that is strapped in when doing highway traveling. A car seat will not protect or help your pet if the car is hit hard or rolls over. It is horrible what happens to a pet that goes flying off someone's lap or even out of the car seat when there is an accident. I think people have been satisfied with the fact that the dog is confined to one place and have not checked out or considered what would happen in case of a real accident. |
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That is scary! Especially the one that was a complete failure. Is it just me ...but to me all those tethers look too long to start with. |
Surely the tethers weren't all that long! I thought it showed they failed at the buckle or clamp site. Surely no one tethers their dog that loosely if it wears the restraint for safety's sake & the testers surely would know that. |
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I wish they actually tested and rated the safety of pet car seats the way they do infant/child seats. |
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I agree I'd like to know how they would test with a smaller dog. |
I say luckily I have never had a serious accident in my car with my dogs. I will share with you what most professional handlers, and exhibitors use, like it or not, and that is crates. Crates buckelled and strapped down. But I have one good friend who was in a major, a huge collision. All her 3 big Akitas survived actually much better than she did, with being buckled down in their crates. Her car rolled 4 or more times. She was in the hospital for almost a year. Her dogs were out and about healthy in about one month. I will never place my small dog, or my Large breed dog in a harnesss on the seat. This study just re-inforces my decision. To me safety of my dogs trump all. I don't give a darn if they whine or cry in the car, and I do train my dogs from early days to like car rides cause they=maximum fun. I don't care if my dog can look out the window. I care if someone crashes into me that my dog is as safe as I am. |
Agreed on the smaller dog testing. There are so many small dogs, I wish we had some testing to see what is actually the safest as I'm not happy with Tibbe's carrier situation but I just so fear the other types failing or accidental seatbelt deployment in a highspeed crash. I fear in his carrier, Tibbe could still break his neck or sustain a head injury. |
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In the kind of accident my friend went through, all dogs and herself were lucky, very lucky to be alive. Even with big dogs, at that kind of impact, they could break their necks or back too:(:(:( Not a welcome thought at all!. |
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Harry goes in his crate with his harness on. We use a car lead that clips onto his harness - then slots into the seat belt slot. We then put the over shoulder seat belt round his whole crate, threadled through, then round into the other seat belt slot. We had a car accident several years ago, and our Schnauzer was in HIS crate, with the same arrangement. Our car rolled :eek: and we ended up on it's roof and had to be cut out by the Fire Brigade. We ended up in A+E - Sam the Schnauzer was totally unscathed...thank goodness. Scarey stuff all round :( Sally + Harry x |
This is no surprise. It is not the first time a "safety" system...err...wasn't safe. I need no formal tests to figure out that these "restraint" systems will fail miserably...and tragically. Their purpose is to keep the animal from bouncing around in the car, mashing the accelerator pedal, blocking the driver's view of the road, etc. I agree...the closest thing to "safe" for an animal in a "crash" is a strapped down, full enclosure/crate...preferably at least partly padded with motion absorbancy. I wish there was something better...I fear that the new 'laws' like what NJ passed will proliferate the manufacturing of profitable equipment to the detriment of furbabies. |
This link shows a handy device to hold a carrier safely in place on a car seat:  Amazon.com: Kurgo Carrier Keeper - Argyle: Pet... It is just the straps that help hold the carrier in place. It is a much safer for when you travel. I think the car seats are great for around town driving but if you are traveling any distance this is true protection for your pet. I know many of our babies are spoiled by other ways of travel. Gracie doesn't mind traveling in a carrier as long as she can keep track of what is going on with her people. As Yorkietalkjilly said it protects in case of flying objects. If a car gets hit by another car things, people, pets, and glass flies! |
Yet I'm not convinced a crate would be much better. The dog would still be hurled pretty hard against it. Those metal ones could turn into skewers, and the plastic ones could probably shatter easily. Also, if the crate gets banged up enough, it could be hard to open. Cutting a dog out of a harness, if need be, wouldn't be too hard. Cutting a dog out of a crate...that would be a little harder. I don't know. There's risks both ways unfortunately. It just sucks all around, I think :( I guess we just have to do the best we can. There is a crash tested proved crate but it's like $2000... and that ain't happening. Here's one I found for $200: Large Dog Crate I was in an accident with Jackson two years ago where my car was totaled. He was in the back and not attached to anything. I am so thankful he was not on my lap, and he wasn't injured. I almost wonder if he had been hooked up if he would have actually gotten hurt, after watching these videos. I almost feel like more damage would have been done. |
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A dog, along with any loose item in a car becomes a projectile object during a car accident. When an accident happens anything in a person's lap goes flying as well. In a true car accident that involves a car rolling or even sliding along after going out of control or being hit by another vehicle the dog in a harness restraint is going to be jerked and thrown, possibly even flipped around several times within a matter of seconds with a great deal of force. More than likely would have multiple injuries if it even survived. A dog in an airline approved hard crate (the kind approved for cargo travel) that is properly secured in the vehicle may get a few bumps but is going to be much better off than the dog in a harness restraint or that is loose in the car. Unhooking the crate is quite simple and the least of the problems. The dog is secure in the crate and not flopping around in distress after an accident. |
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I do have to agree. With large dogs and a protective breed at that, I want them in a crate. At least rescue folks can safely remove the crate from the car. Transport safely to the ER. And then the ER vet folks can handle, including shooting in a mild sedative to safely remove the dog. I think that I am going to change my car crates to the hard sided ones, cause as Brit said the wire crates can buckle and end up with sharp/jagged points. I did see a beautiful full aluminum solid crate, the price was very expensive, but they did not make crates large enough...sigh. |
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