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BabyFidgette 01-12-2012 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3788168)
I'm with you on this. What about all the homeless pets that need good homes who will lose their lives if not adopted . Not to mention how $50,000.00 could help a lot of homeless pets. I just think it's selfish and basically that's really what it's all about.:(
$50,000 is the negotiated price she got b/c she was being interviewed for TLC. The real cost is $100,000!

BellarousasMom 01-13-2012 07:31 AM
I seen that when the owner was on GMA. My mind to the "silly" side of it. What if the more she clones the pups end up being like the guys in the Micheal Keaton movie "Multiplicity", where he cloned himself then his clones cloned themselves, but they become more unstable. Would this happen with the pups?

gemy 01-13-2012 07:55 AM
For me morally and ethically it is wrong. It is wrong on so many levels. And once they "perfect" this process on animals, watch out human species, the pressure will be on, to clone the first human being.

Just because "one can do a thing" doesn't mean "one should do a thing". Man shouldn't mess with life's creation; we simply don't know enough.

IMO man's technological innovations and discoveries are light years ahead of man's ethical and moral growth. It is only in the last 15yrs or so, that there is university courses and positions on bioethics.

I would never clone one of my pets, no matter how much I adored them.

LunasMomma 01-13-2012 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3788409)
For me morally and ethically it is wrong. It is wrong on so many levels. And once they "perfect" this process on animals, watch out human species, the pressure will be on, to clone the first human being.

Just because "one can do a thing" doesn't mean "one should do a thing". Man shouldn't mess with life's creation; we simply don't know enough.

IMO man's technological innovations and discoveries are light years ahead of man's ethical and moral growth. It is only in the last 15yrs or so, that there is university courses and positions on bioethics.

I would never clone one of my pets, no matter how much I adored them.
Well said, and I wholeheartedly agree! I think it's kind of creepy:eek:

beecee 01-13-2012 12:20 PM
I think cloning is a VERY interesting thing and can't wait to see how it progresses throughout the rest of my life....ridding hereditary diseases and so on would be a bonus.

Science is an amazing thing.

Nancy1999 01-13-2012 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by beecee (Post 3788631)
I think cloning is a VERY interesting thing and can't wait to see how it progresses throughout the rest of my life....ridding hereditary diseases and so on would be a bonus.

Science is an amazing thing.
Yeah I agree, I've read what it could do to help us learn about disease and how the disease begins; it's just amazing what scientists will learn from this. As far as "going against nature" some people think dog breeding is wrong because man is deciding which dogs will breed and what traits will be bred. Others believe that artificial insemination is wrong; it's man interfering with nature. Others believe any type of help producing a pregnancy or preventing a pregnancy is wrong and this interferes with God’s plan. I do think there are major ethical questions to be addressed and I hope instead of just people being against it, they will think of the ethics behind these things, so that they can be done ethically.

beecee 01-13-2012 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3788636)
Yeah I agree, I've read what it could do to help us learn about disease and how the disease begins; it's just amazing what scientists will learn from this. As far as "going against nature" some people think dog breeding is wrong because man is deciding which dogs will breed and what traits will be bred. Others believe that artificial insemination is wrong; it's man interfering with nature. Others believe any type of help producing a pregnancy or preventing a pregnancy is wrong and this interferes with God’s plan. I do think there are major ethical questions to be addressed and I hope instead of just people being against it, they will think of the ethics behind these things, so that they can be done ethically.
People are always afraid of the unknown and thrown ideals at things that really don't need it. There are some very religious scientists doing some of this work, I'm sure.

If it "wasn't" meant to be, it wouldn't work...or live :)

Science is science! We can't say what God's plan is without being told by He Himself :)

I think it's neat! Just imagine how things would be if we didn't progress!

And yes, of course we will have some unethical bad stuff going on, but that happens with anything in the world from a grain of salt to the world itself.

PattiNumber_H 01-14-2012 12:20 PM
In the most recent issue of AKC's Family Dog magazine, there is an article titled, "Canine Copycats". Talks about Trakr the SAR German Shepherd that lived to be 16 years old. This dog found the last living person at the 9/11 ground zero site. His DNA was submitted for cloning in 2008 and now there is not 1 but 5 Trakr clones, all in SAR training.

I too am on the fence about cloning, creation for me is such a beautiful thing. It feels like someone photocopying a Rembrandt and trying to visualize the painters brush stroke technique on the copy. It loses its intimacy for me. Science is a powerful thing and I'm sure, done for the right reasons, millions could benefit from cloning.

gemy 01-14-2012 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by beecee (Post 3788649)
People are always afraid of the unknown and thrown ideals at things that really don't need it. There are some very religious scientists doing some of this work, I'm sure.

If it "wasn't" meant to be, it wouldn't work...or live :)

Science is science! We can't say what God's plan is without being told by He Himself :)

I think it's neat! Just imagine how things would be if we didn't progress!

And yes, of course we will have some unethical bad stuff going on, but that happens with anything in the world from a grain of salt to the world itself.
For me the idea is to have a strong ethical base intact, monitoring, approving, prior to going ahead with the research.

Being afaird of the "unknown" sometimes is a very wise place to be. Having enough humility to say; you know what I just don't know enough to proceed ahead is a mindset that builds a foundation for prudent research.

Awh but if you change the nature of a "grain of sand" what then?

Have you heard of the butterfly effect? We are living right now with the repercussions of all humanity has done before our time, and what we have done in our time.


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