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Britster 01-12-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whitcline08 (Post 3787591)
Anybody know if of the following brands good or bad?...
Iams, iams healthy naturals, iams premium protection, beneful, natural life, purina one, purina, pro plan, kibbles n' bits, purina-chef michael's, science diet? I know petsmart carries most of these brands so I don't know if any are good since some say their made exspecally for toy breeds

My personal non professional opinion? Nope, I don't like any of them and would not feed them. Out of those choices, though, I'd probably choose Science Diet (Ideal Balance, specifically, if I had to choose).

WyominGirl 01-12-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whitcline08 (Post 3787591)
Anybody know if of the following brands good or bad?...
Iams, iams healthy naturals, iams premium protection, beneful, natural life, purina one, purina, pro plan, kibbles n' bits, purina-chef michael's, science diet? I know petsmart carries most of these brands so I don't know if any are good since some say their made exspecally for toy breeds

These on your list are considered commercial dog foods. If you do a little research you will see that the foods in this class start with poor ingredients and then bake them at high heat killing what nutrients that were there. Also in this class for toy breeds means smaller pieces not tailored for toys nutritionally.

Hope that helps.

WyominGirl 01-12-2012 02:38 PM

And I think this was mentioned earlier, but if WM is your only choice b/c of location I would sign up at petco or pet smart and take advantage of their free shipping. What would be more convenient than having it auto delivered? :)

gryhndnut 01-12-2012 05:04 PM

You are in Iowa, so don't you have a Farm and Home or Tractor Supply near you? Don't know all the foods they carry, but I know that Farm and Home carries Wellness and Taste of the Wild. TSC carries Taste of the Wild also and they may carry some more of the "better" brands.

Beabble 01-12-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by whitcline08 (Post 3787591)
Anybody know if of the following brands good or bad?...
Iams, iams healthy naturals, iams premium protection, beneful, natural life, purina one, purina, pro plan, kibbles n' bits, purina-chef michael's, science diet? I know petsmart carries most of these brands so I don't know if any are good since some say their made exspecally for toy breeds

Here's a link where you can read up on all kinds of dog foods, this may help you out and help you decide which food you want to feed to your lil one.

Dog Food Reviews - Main Index - Powered by ReviewPost

southernbelle04 01-12-2012 06:23 PM

We have Katie Scarlett on the food she was on at the breeders, which is the Royal Canin Yorkshire Terrier Puppy Formula. We have been pleased with it so far. We do not let her have any table scraps. We tried pieces of carrot as treats, she hated them. I am going to try sweet potatoes though. She also gets teeny tiny pieces of turkey weenies cut up when it is training time or for puppy class. We also have those Gerber Graduates sweet potato puffs that we give her as a treat on occasion. She loves those.

whitcline08 01-16-2012 07:31 AM

I know I asked bout purina one but has anyone ever tried purina one beyond dog food

Teegy 01-16-2012 08:19 AM

I regard to what Gracielove said about kibble cleaning teeth, I just read an article by a holistic vet that says exactly the same.
She said most of the time your dog eats kibble when it bites down the food shatters and they crunch and swallow, so it never gets close to the gum line.
Apparently, raw meat contains enzymes that naturally clean dogs teeth (wish that was true for us, I'd have steak tartar for dinner every night).

Teegy 01-16-2012 08:24 AM

Those commercial brands you have mentioned, in my personal opinion, are crap, avoid them, they are full of corn and filler and there was also a documentary done on the big commercial foods and they use saw dust and used car tires as filler.
Just saying.
Is your breeder local to you, did they provide you with some suggestions or a sample bag of what they were feeding your pup?

DBlain 01-16-2012 09:18 AM

here is a very good read for anyone that wants to understand dog food better. Dog Food Reviews | Dog Food Ratings
the site has a ton of good information, it reviews just about every type of food out there. I was surprised that some of the popular brands like Science Diet and Iams did not get great reviews. At one time I fed Royal Canine, LOL I guess because it has a yorkie on the bag and they sponsor the Yorkie Club of Amercia, but that brand did not get high marks. The site teaches you how to read and understand labels. For instance did you know it is better to have chicken meal (or whatever meat/fish source) as the first ingredient over just plain Chicken. There are even a couple of good videos and I like how they explain how to read labels.

In the long run I still think dry food will be better for their teeth and is the easiest to feed, since it is more portable, less messy, longer bowl life etc. With puppies after weaning it is good to start them with dry, if you start with wet or lots of table food you might never get them off it.

When it comes to treats I always wonder why people that say they stay away from table scraps will then feed their dog all sorts of store bought treats. Dog treats are filled with all sorts of bad ingredients that we would never feed our dog on their own. For treats, I just steam some unseasoned chicken meat, or partially cook a sweet potato to the point where it is cooked but firm and cut it into strips (like a fat shoestring potato chips, slice up some carrots, or put a little peanut butter on my finger.

One of the brands I feed is Life's Abundance my dog really seems to like it, I figure I will keep all my bases covered so I mix it with Blue Buffalo fish and sweet potato. Lifes Abundance is ordered online so it does not matter where you live. Yorkies don't eat much so I figure it's not that much of a cost problem to feed high quality food

DBlain 01-16-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Teegy (Post 3792419)
Is your breeder local to you, did they provide you with some suggestions or a sample bag of what they were feeding your pup?

I used to think going by what the breeder does was good advice, but not any longer. A lot of them (not all) feed based on cost. The breeder I got my current one from used Diamond (not a good brand) the one before used Royal Cannine, however she now feeds Blue Buffalo. Best of course not to change a dog cold turkey from what they were eating before you got them. With that all being said, LOL I sometimes I do think we make to much out of dog food, think of all the millions of dogs that have been raised on Purina One, Wallmart's Old Roy and Kibble & Bits!

yorkieusa 01-16-2012 09:42 AM

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...e-samples.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...oods-dogs.html

Check out the above links. The information in the second link could save your yorkie's life.

Teegy 01-16-2012 09:46 AM

Can I tell ya a story, I was coming home on the subway and a woman had what appeared to me to be a little lab pup, I asked how old, she said 6 weeks, my heart sank. Then she fed it some big mac and fries, this was a grown woman.
I have friends with a beagle and a small poodle, when we go out they always bring a plastic container, every scrap on everyone's plates go in that container and get fed to their dogs. Oh do I give them royal S H .....T, but they say their dogs are fine. Who knows when their arteries will become blocked and their hearts explode. Can only imagine what we are being told is bad for us can't be good for dogs.

yorkieusa 01-16-2012 10:30 AM

The pancreas is a V-shaped organ located behind the stomach and the first section of the small intestine, the duodenum. It has two main functions: it aids in metabolism of sugar in the body through the production of insulin, and is necessary for the digestion of nutrients by producing pancreatic enzymes. These enzymes help the body promote the digestion and absorption of nutrients from food. Acute pancreatitis is a sudden onset of pancreatic inflammation. Chronic pancreatitis can also occur.

What are the causes?

Multiple factors can contribute to the development of pancreatitis in dogs:

Certain medications, especially potassium bromide, as well as some anti-cancer drugs and some antibiotics

Metabolic disorders including hyperlipidemia (high amounts of lipid in the blood) and hypercalcemia (high amounts of calcium in the blood)

Hormonal diseases such as Cushings disease (hyperadrenocorticism), hypothyroidism, and diabetes mellitus

Obese and overweight dogs appear to be more at risk

Genetics may play a role, with Schnauzers and Yorkshire terriers appearing to be more prone to pancreatitis

Nutrition: Dogs with diets high in fat, dogs who have recently gotten into the trash or have been fed table scraps, or dogs who 'steal' or are fed greasy 'people food' seem to have a higher incidence of the disease

Abdominal surgery, trauma to the abdomen (e.g., hit by a car), shock, or other conditions that could affect blood flow to the pancreas

Previous pancreatitis

What are the symptoms of pancreatitis?

Symptoms of acute pancreatitis may range from mild to very severe. The symptoms are similar to those of other diseases and may include a very painful abdomen, abdominal distention, lack of appetite, depression, dehydration, a 'hunched up' posture, vomiting, and perhaps diarrhea. Fever often accompanies these symptoms.

Animals with more severe disease can develop heart arrhythmias, sepsis (body-wide infection), difficulty breathing, and a life-threatening condition called disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC), which results in multiple hemorrhages. If the inflammation is severe, organs surrounding the pancreas could be 'autodigested' by pancreatic enzymes released from the damaged pancreas and become permanently damaged.

Dogs with chronic pancreatitis may show signs similar to those in acute pancreatitis, but they are often milder, and severe complications are less likely.

Pancreatitis (Inflammation) in Dogs

azkaty 01-16-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Beabble (Post 3787894)
Here's a link where you can read up on all kinds of dog foods, this may help you out and help you decide which food you want to feed to your lil one.

Dog Food Reviews - Main Index - Powered by ReviewPost

Happened to notice this list was from 2007..or seems to be.
Watch ut for high protein food . Could lead to kidney burn out problems.

Wellness if my food of choice..


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