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maci_mace 10-06-2011 03:28 PM

cotton coats and runny eyes.
 
so i am fairly convinced Maci is a cotton body/legs with a silky head/face[picture 3].
her belly mattes pretty easily, although her body/legs do not. She grows a very pretty straight long coat, but while her coat is short it's wavy. [as pictures 1-2 show]
my question on this is, are there any good products that other cotton coated yorkie owners use that will help keep the coat shiney and a li'l less prone to mattes?


now, her eyes. her eyes seem to "leak" a lot. i cleaned "boogies" out yesterday. then cleaned a little boogie out today. the fur close to the inside of her eye was wet too. her skin is also flakey/itchy which i'm thinking is the RCYT28 food.
my question here is, i am going to switch her over to Acanad Grass/Ranch , see what happens for her skin and eyes. In the meantime, what can I use to "soothe" her itchies??

Kaos 10-06-2011 04:06 PM

I don't have a specific answer to your question. But I just switched Kaos to RCYT28 like 3 weeks ago. His eyes used to drain a lot, and now they don't, and his coat looks and feels 100x better on it. Although he is a little itchy on it as well.

I used some hot spot shampoo from petsmart. I don't have the name atm but I used like twice and hes doing much better.

maci_mace 10-06-2011 04:42 PM

huh, her eyes and skin are not doing good and i am thinking it's the RCYT28 since itchiness is a common side effect i've read about here on YT :/
i do agree beside the itchiness and runny eyes she coat is very nice and shiney, much more so than other cotton coated dogs [she feels a lot like a poodle! just not curly lol]

Is Hot Spot the brand? We only have one petstore in town outside of WalMart, so I'll have to take a look! She came with "Mane&Tail" shampoo lol

Perrella 10-06-2011 04:54 PM

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Ok, what great timing....I was just going to start a thread on a shampoo I found a pet boutique/spa salon when I was in MD a few weeks ago and I have to tell you...I LOVE it for my girl.

Zhoie will be 3 in January and is a cotton coat. I have try tons of the best of the best shampoos and conditioners. I've an entire bathroom cabinet to prove it...just sayin;)

Zhoie was kinda itching a few weeks back after a few day from her bath but before the weekend when it was time for another bath...so I was thinking, so seasonal allergies. Anyway, I go in the dog spa and talk with the owner/groomer, she suggested Comfy Dog Oatmeal Conditioning Shampoo for Dry and Itchy Skin by happytails.

OMgosh, it is the most wonderful product I have tried yet. I don't want to jinx us, but no itching what-so-ever. You don't use a separate conditioner nor do I need a detangler...it's all in this one products. It's the first product I have found that truly gives her cotton coat SHINE and it last all week until her next bath. it's all natural and smells like peppermint.

Here's a couple of pictures after using it...hope you can see her shine. I'm amazed.

Perrella 10-06-2011 04:58 PM

Oh, and even the long hair on her legs and belly doesn't tangle even wearing clothes. :thumbup:

For her eyes, I use my trimmers and keep the enter corners tipped out. I found when the hair gets in her eyes, it really causes them to water.

Here's the link I ordered some butter from too for deep conditioning once in awhile.

http://www.happytailsspa.com/site/index.html

Layotte51652 10-06-2011 05:04 PM

Cotton coat?
 
Can someone explain cotton coat to me?

Perrella 10-06-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Layotte51652 (Post 3685535)
Can someone explain cotton coat to me?

The hair texture on Zhoie's back when it grows long isn't real thick like some but it does have a more cottony feel to it, not a shiney silky feel. Her is straight and lays flat but doesn't get a natural part down her back either like a true silky does. Zhoe's head and legs are more silky with shine but not her back coat.

Oh, I think it may run more in the dark coated dogs too...not positive but seems that way.

carmen in nj 10-06-2011 05:10 PM

My Prada is my cotton coat yorkie and she also has a problem with her eyes having lots of discharge, I have to clean them with calm eyes every other day, she is black and tan and matts very easy, so I keep her cut short, she does not have one silky hair in he body or head..LOL:p she does gets a teaspoon of coconut oil every other day in her food..

maci_mace 10-06-2011 05:11 PM

Oh Perrella! That is amazing, Zhoie looks almost silky!! Do you happen to know if cotton coats loose a li'l more hair than silky coat? I find that Maci always has more hair than I expect in her brush when I'm done brushing her.

Layotte... not all yorkies have the "human hair" coats that are silky/thin/shiney etc. some yorkies end up with cotton coats that are usually wavy/thick/soft and tangle/matte easier. there are also some yorkies that a considered wire hair/red legged.
Yorkies can fall out of standard for a lot of reasons just from a throwback gene to poor breeding. No matter what we love 'em all

maci_mace 10-06-2011 05:12 PM

Also Parelle... Maci is the same way, she has a silky head/neck but her body is cotton.

Perrella 10-06-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by maci_mace (Post 3685544)
Oh Perrella! That is amazing, Zhoie looks almost silky!! Do you happen to know if cotton coats loose a li'l more hair than silky coat? I find that Maci always has more hair than I expect in her brush when I'm done brushing her.

Layotte... not all yorkies have the "human hair" coats that are silky/thin/shiney etc. some yorkies end up with cotton coats that are usually wavy/thick/soft and tangle/matte easier. there are also some yorkies that a considered wire hair/red legged.
Yorkies can fall out of standard for a lot of reasons just from a throwback gene to poor breeding. No matter what we love 'em all

Yes, I know it and it feels so silky...I love it! I use to get more fuzzy like hair after a good brushing in her brush. But no much anymore.

When I went into the doggie spa, I only picked up the Confy Dog shampoo, but when I found I love it so much, I found their link and ordered the Itchy Trio pack with has the shampoo, a spray for brushing and the butter. I have used the butter I time to deep condition and was so amazed with it too.

carmen in nj 10-06-2011 05:20 PM

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Here's a picture of my cotton coat Prada she has a very soft cotton like hair, and LOTS of it, very thick coat, black and tan...
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...ture003-14.jpg

Perrella 10-06-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 3685549)
Here's a picture of my cotton coat Prada she has a very soft cotton like hair, and LOTS of it, very thick coat, black and tan...
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...ture003-14.jpg

OMgosh, Prada is a real sweetheart...love her darling face! What a babydoll:)

carmen in nj 10-06-2011 05:48 PM

thank you, she is my spoiled girl, I got her for my birthday, a friend of a friend had the litter and I had to have her, even tho I knew she was not from the best breeding stock..:p I just knew I had her for my forever pet..:) she is what the breeder called a teddy bear face yorkie..

Teresa Ford 10-06-2011 06:05 PM

I use RCYT Puppy 29, with no problems for Ginny Joy and Abba. Gracie eats RCYT 28, I think this food helps with her bad breath, which is better now. She has a coat that mats easy. I also use Oatmeal shampoo on her which makes it less trouble to comb out and fewer tangels. Rubin( my old guy) is on SD he does not like RC. Lily the Lab is on BB. I use Mane and Tail on Rubin and the puppies they have beautiful silky coats.

Teresa Ford 10-06-2011 06:13 PM

Comfy Dog Oatmeal Shampoo Here is where I order it from.

maci_mace 10-06-2011 06:19 PM

Thanks Teresa :D I wish Maci did have a silky coat for the sake of management but she sure is sooo soft and I love cuddling her haha.

Layotte51652 10-07-2011 02:54 AM

Thanks
 
Thanks for the information. New to the Yorkie world and was just wondering!

DvlshAngel985 10-07-2011 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Perrella (Post 3685523)
Ok, what great timing....I was just going to start a thread on a shampoo I found a pet boutique/spa salon when I was in MD a few weeks ago and I have to tell you...I LOVE it for my girl.

Zhoie will be 3 in January and is a cotton coat. I have try tons of the best of the best shampoos and conditioners. I've an entire bathroom cabinet to prove it...just sayin;)

Zhoie was kinda itching a few weeks back after a few day from her bath but before the weekend when it was time for another bath...so I was thinking, so seasonal allergies. Anyway, I go in the dog spa and talk with the owner/groomer, she suggested Comfy Dog Oatmeal Conditioning Shampoo for Dry and Itchy Skin by happytails.

OMgosh, it is the most wonderful product I have tried yet. I don't want to jinx us, but no itching what-so-ever. You don't use a separate conditioner nor do I need a detangler...it's all in this one products. It's the first product I have found that truly gives her cotton coat SHINE and it last all week until her next bath. it's all natural and smells like peppermint.

Here's a couple of pictures after using it...hope you can see her shine. I'm amazed.

Are you sure your baby is soft coated? Her hair is amazing! It looks so silky and smooth. I wish Kaji's would look like that.

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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 3685549)
Here's a picture of my cotton coat Prada she has a very soft cotton like hair, and LOTS of it, very thick coat, black and tan...
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...ture003-14.jpg

Prada looks adorable! My soft coated pup has a similar look.

maci_mace 10-07-2011 07:26 AM

Yeah I'm sure she has a soft coat... If she could have soft and silky hair on her body that could be a possibility lol but her signs point to soft.
Very thick hair, belly mattes like crazy, she doesn't have a natural part, she is curly when wet, a wavy mess when dry lol. But she does have some shine to her coat!
Her head/face are wonderfully silky :)
Not sure why her coat shines.., we use mane N tail products and feed rcyt28 but are switching to acana. Will see if the shine goes away!

Also her black hair on her body has a more brown undertone, while she has blue undertone on her ears/face/rear where there is any blacks and silver

LovinOurYorkies 10-07-2011 04:43 PM

I use Harry Barker Oatmeal Shampoo and Conditioner... it is USA made (if you take that into consideration), it's concentrated but I use it full strength, it smells wonderful and lasts the week until their next bath. They also make Prickly Pear 2in1 for hot spots, flea dermatitis, and scaly skin; and Shea Butter 2in1 for extra sensitive skin.

In addition to allergens, runny eyes can be caused by diet... even on a highly rated, holistic food, my girls eyes are producing a lot of goo.

Perrella 10-07-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3685848)
Are you sure your baby is soft coated? Her hair is amazing! It looks so silky and smooth. I wish Kaji's would look like that.

Prada looks adorable! My soft coated pup has a similar look.

Thanks, I do believe she is a cotton, just on a really thick cotton. I have found now that she is getting close to 3, she coat is changing to a thinner/flat feel. She doesn't get wavy when wet and her coat is very straight. But the back is dull and doesn't natural part.

This shampoo is the best her coat has ever felt and no tangles even with close...amazes me.

I am tempted to grow her back out some for winter just to see how it does on this shampoo and to give her a little warmth.:rolleyes:

Perrella 10-07-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by maci_mace (Post 3685876)
Yeah I'm sure she has a soft coat... If she could have soft and silky hair on her body that could be a possibility lol but her signs point to soft.
Very thick hair, belly mattes like crazy, she doesn't have a natural part, she is curly when wet, a wavy mess when dry lol. But she does have some shine to her coat!
Her head/face are wonderfully silky :)
Not sure why her coat shines.., we use mane N tail products and feed rcyt28 but are switching to acana. Will see if the shine goes away!

Also her black hair on her body has a more brown undertone, while she has blue undertone on her ears/face/rear where there is any blacks and silver

Up until Zhoie was about 1 1/2 old her coat in the sun had a reddish brown cast, use to drive me crazies. My vet said it was a hormonal imbalance and she would outgrow it and she did. I do find as she gets older her coat seems to be really improving.

DvlshAngel985 10-07-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Perrella (Post 3686197)
Thanks, I do believe she is a cotton, just on a really thick cotton. I have found now that she is getting close to 3, she coat is changing to a thinner/flat feel. She doesn't get wavy when wet and her coat is very straight. But the back is dull and doesn't natural part.

This shampoo is the best her coat has ever felt and no tangles even with close...amazes me.

I am tempted to grow her back out some for winter just to see how it does on this shampoo and to give her a little warmth.:rolleyes:

Boo! I'm even more jealous. Kaji is 3 and his hair is so thick, and crazy. He's curly wet or dry! I doubt his will ever change.

maci_mace 10-07-2011 05:33 PM

i'm so dumb... i thought she was talking about maci haha oops

DvlshAngel985 10-07-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by maci_mace (Post 3686247)
i'm so dumb... i thought she was talking about maci haha oops

She's adorable too! Her tail looks just like my boys. Long with lots of kinks in the hair. (almost curls) Her overall hair seems smoother than his though. You say hers doesn't matt right? LUCKY!! Kaji's will matt just by looking at it. :rolleyes:

maci_mace 10-07-2011 06:02 PM

I wonder if Maci will do the same as Zhoie and kinda thin and straighten out lol.. that would be a miracle!
And nope no matting anywhere but the belly! Thank goodness. I feel like the body is a mix of silk and cotton... she's just a big oddball :P

Perrella 10-07-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3686235)
Boo! I'm even more jealous. Kaji is 3 and his hair is so thick, and crazy. He's curly wet or dry! I doubt his will ever change.

No way...Kaji and one adorable boy! Everytime I look at him in his little house peeking out....it gives me such a big smile :D, love it, he's just precious!

Oh, don't get me wrong, if I would grow her back coat out...she would be a poof and look hugh I'm sure. I'm telling you, this shampoo has worked wonders on her coat. Keeping my fingers crossed it will only get better.

Perrella 10-07-2011 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by maci_mace (Post 3686275)
I wonder if Maci will do the same as Zhoie and kinda thin and straighten out lol.. that would be a miracle!
And nope no matting anywhere but the belly! Thank goodness. I feel like the body is a mix of silk and cotton... she's just a big oddball :P

She just might. Zhoie use to tangle bad on her belly and shoulders where clothes would rub. I think that's why the shaved back works so much better for us.

Oh, and when she was younger with the brownish reddish look to her coat, it looked like her coat had split ends/broke. But when her hormones leveled out that improved to.


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