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Jennxling 10-04-2011 12:42 PM
Unreasonable Fear?? Please HELP!!
 
I don't know what to do! Emma is scared all the time!! Last night I was taking Carmel and Emma out to go potty, she was afraid of the door...when I take them for walks, she's afraid of the harness and leash (retractable). I think I know why she's afraid of the leash...sometimes I lose grip of the leash and it would go at her...so I have been more careful. Anyways, Emma's been with us since she was a puppy like Carmel, but she's got major anxiety and fear issues (Carmel doesn't). Thus, I'm beginning to think that it's her personality...? I understand that the world can be pretty scary when you're just 3.5#, but I was wondering what I can do to alleviate her fear and anxiety?? She's scared of other dogs, but still wants to say hi, so she'd crawl up to other dogs (she's SUPER submissive). Does anyone else have problems with their dogs that are not rescues??

susan lynn 10-04-2011 01:39 PM
Get her a Thunder shirt. My little girl has anxiety if we are seperated too long during the night and everyone has reccomended I get one for her. Only problem is my DH doesn't believe it would help, but I am sure it will so I am waiting patiently. None of my dogs are rescues either.

Lovetodream88 10-04-2011 02:18 PM
I also think maybe you should try the thundershirt if it doesn't work you can always get your money back. Or maybe you could talk to the vet about a medicine that might help.

Lovetodream88 10-04-2011 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by susan lynn (Post 3683678)
Get her a Thunder shirt. My little girl has anxiety if we are seperated too long during the night and everyone has reccomended I get one for her. Only problem is my DH doesn't believe it would help, but I am sure it will so I am waiting patiently. None of my dogs are rescues either.
Have you told your DH that if it doesn't work you can get your money back?

katirob 10-04-2011 02:26 PM
We just started puppy training with Gracie yesterday. She's submissive and a little bit of a fraidy-cat. Not major, but noticeable. The trainer mentioned that we can start working on her confidence. Don't know exactly what that's going to look like yet, but it sounds like training for fear is one approach. I'll post again when I know more, but you might ask your vet or find a trainer and ask.

susan lynn 10-04-2011 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3683696)
Have you told your DH that if it doesn't work you can get your money back?
Yes I have, he thinks she will try to tear it off, so I just let him decide in his own time. She is very hyper and likes to chew.

Lovetodream88 10-04-2011 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by susan lynn (Post 3683722)
Yes I have, he thinks she will try to tear it off, so I just let him decide in his own time. She is very hyper and likes to chew.
Oh ok

Jennxling 10-04-2011 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by katirob (Post 3683703)
We just started puppy training with Gracie yesterday. She's submissive and a little bit of a fraidy-cat. Not major, but noticeable. The trainer mentioned that we can start working on her confidence. Don't know exactly what that's going to look like yet, but it sounds like training for fear is one approach. I'll post again when I know more, but you might ask your vet or find a trainer and ask.
That describes Emma!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one...I was also told to boost her confidence because she may feel insecure since we got her after Carmel and Carmel always "comes first". Well, I don't know what to do to boost her confidence. I have talked to the vet (two vets) about it...they didn't say much about the issue...I will look into the thundershirt, thanks!! It's comforting to know that I'm not the only one...

camile 10-04-2011 06:44 PM
Chloe is very hyper and somewhat insecure. I have tried everything and nothing has helped. Sometimes, I just think, she is what she is. I bought a Thundershirt and it didn't help either. I will add that the size I ordered was a little small but I'm not sure if I order another size it will change anything. I would be interested if a Thundershirt has helped anyone and if so, how long did it take.

DvlshAngel985 10-04-2011 07:29 PM
Is this a new behavior? Emma seemed so outgoing at the dog park. Living with a dog that has severe anxiety and fear is not fun. Kaji is afraid of going outside. He'll cower and hide to avoid getting caught. When I do get him, he trembles, drools, and pants in the car until he calms down. 90% of the time, he forgets his fears because we go somewhere he likes. (go see Missy, visit with BF, go to the park, etc) his positive reaction to places is 2 years worth of work. I'm sure you'll figure out a way to help Emma. :)

Jennxling 10-04-2011 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3684112)
Is this a new behavior? Emma seemed so outgoing at the dog park. Living with a dog that has severe anxiety and fear is not fun. Kaji is afraid of going outside. He'll cower and hide to avoid getting caught. When I do get him, he trembles, drools, and pants in the car until he calms down. 90% of the time, he forgets his fears because we go somewhere he likes. (go see Missy, visit with BF, go to the park, etc) his positive reaction to places is 2 years worth of work. I'm sure you'll figure out a way to help Emma. :)
Thanks! The behavior was always there, but it's only sometimes at random things (doors, leash/harness). It's not really that she's scared of them, but anxious that she may get hurt. My roommate refers to the anxiety as her being cautious. lol Today, she was fine when going through the doors so I just praise her. She's very outgoing, but just cautious (probably better term for it). Everyone that sees her at the park says she looks like a happy girl...

deonk1 10-05-2011 08:11 AM
I'd consider consulting a trainer, while vets can notice medical things, they don't always have the right advice for behavioral issues. I wouldn't go as far as to get a behaviouralist cause I think they charge way too much money. But just a standard trainer who deals with show/competitive dogs in possibly agility or obedience could likely do an in home visit and watch Emma in her home and tell you if there is anything that can be done training wise.

My coach offers much work with agility dogs on dealing with anxiety around showing, I'm sure a lot of those techniques can be applied in your home etc.

Good luck, I hope her anxiety goes away eventually

DvlshAngel985 10-05-2011 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jennxling (Post 3684141)
Thanks! The behavior was always there, but it's only sometimes at random things (doors, leash/harness). It's not really that she's scared of them, but anxious that she may get hurt. My roommate refers to the anxiety as her being cautious. lol Today, she was fine when going through the doors so I just praise her. She's very outgoing, but just cautious (probably better term for it). Everyone that sees her at the park says she looks like a happy girl...
Maybe this will help you. I call it the touch game. When an item causes fear, I have Kaji in my lap and bring the item close to us. I touch it and tell him what the item is called. I bring it a little closer and let him sniff it and investigate it on his own terms. If he sniffs, he gets lots of praise. I bring it a little bit closer, and ask him to touch it. Every time he does, he gets praised. If his reaction is really bad to something, he even gets a treat when he works up the courage to touch it. He doesn't learn to love the items, but he learns to tolerate them. By sniffing and touching them in a controlled environment, he learns the item is not as scary as he thought. We came up with this game when someone had balloons in our old place. He was terrified of them, and eventually got over it. He doesn't seek out balloons to play with, but now if they are there, the balloons don't scare him. Most recently, someone dropped off a pumpkin at my apt. Kaji was very cautious of it until we played the touch game. Now, he can walk past it without having to watch the pumpkin, and life is back to normal.

dinkyweil 10-05-2011 01:48 PM
We moved recently, and Dinky was unhappy, worried, and generally fearful on the long day long drive Anyway, I don't have a thundershirt, but when he started to shiver, I put on one of his more snug sweaters. It really calmed him down, and I believe that it had the same effect that the Thundershirt promises.

Teresa Ford 10-05-2011 05:20 PM
My Rubin is 8yrs.old and my granddaughter dropped a flexi leash and it hit him. (I don't own one, it was GDs for her dog) Now Rubin is terrified of them. It is the only thing I have ever seen him panic over. If we meet someone using one on their dog, he pants, and tries to hide behind me ! I wonder if he thinks it is a living thing, that attacks with out warning.

Gennies 10-05-2011 05:37 PM
Sweetie you've gotten wonderful advice. The only thing I'd add is stop usi g the retractable leash and see how she is. I have to share that last year a friend of mine let her son hold the grip on her 4 lb yorkie's retractable leash as they were outside. The yorkie took off running and went around a padio set the leash was all the way extended when her son lost grip of it. It hit her baby in the head and she passed away. I think those leashes have more power than we realize. I will say I'm not sure if it was a small one or a large one as I didn't want to ask her too much about it or bring it up again so I just don't use them on Bambi as she's too tiny. How about trying this.....you hold onto the end that hooks onto the harness and have a friend walk away extending the leash some and then have your friend let go of the handle so you feel how hard it actually hit your baby. I think that might help you figure out if you want to use it or not. Hugs

erika1948 10-06-2011 12:32 PM
I had a toy poodle like that and it took her 7 years to start to stop being fearful but she was one of the sweetest dogs I ever had. She would run and hide when someone would come to the house. I left her alone and she would come out on her own terms. Just about the time she was beginning to improve, she passed away. I never knew why she was so afraid but I just did not force meeting people on her.


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