How can I get info on the Breeder??
 

Hi All, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can find out more about the breeder my puppy came from? I bought him from Brooklyn NY and all it said on the paper I got for him was his parents names and the breeder name.

Akc
 

If he is registered AKC you should be able to get some info through them I believe. :)
Hope this helps :aimeeyork

Thanks for the fast response... he isnt AKC reg. They told me that the only time the reg them AKC is for show and for breeding. I have papers to send into the DRA. I really want to know where he came from. I wish I would have found this site sooner.

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Question:
What is the breeders name and location?

It didnt have a location on her. It just said her name was Kathy White. I bought the puppy from (cringe) Puppy Peite in Brooklyn.

Hmmmm...that's interesting.

state?
 

So you know what state she was from? Anything?

In MD there are papers with each dog that SUPPOSEDLY go with the individual puppy in a pet store. The info about the breeder and state of origin is on that paperwork. The pet shop has to let you see that info even if they do not give the actual paper to you..
I must be having a brain (f**t) but I have no idea what DRA means. The registration stuff sounds a bit odd to me...

I went to google and typed in "Kathy White NY" and two of them came up with phone numbers. You could try calling her...

DRA is the Dog Registry of America...

http://www.dogpapers.com/

Also -- Puppy Boutique in Brooklyn, NY is IMO gets his pups from mills...He's got several breeds and several puppies (50 or more at one time)

I had a bad experience with this place last February (my mother in law bought a male yorkie from them)...The pup had a heart condition and LP...She bought a lil boy from there...that next day brought him to her vet...He told her he had a heart condition and LP...She called PB and told the guy who sold her the pup and he told her "If you bring the dog back to me and don't tell anyone what happened I will replace your pup with 2 pups of your choice" She was heartbroken to return this little male boy, but she knew she didnt want a sick puppy :( She eventually got her money back...

Kasey (my moms maltese) is from PB...He is 4 now and thankfully he is 100% healthy, always has been...She bought him from there WAYYYY WAYYY b4 I became educated on Puppymills...But Kasey is from a mill...I had his background checked out at nopuppymills.com

Please feel free to PM with with any questions!

Lots of luck
Fran

puppy
 

Hun, please prepare yourself for bad news. She probably didn't come from a very good place. No good breeder would sell their babies to a petstore. A good breeder would want to make sure his/her babies were going to great homes. People who sell to petstores generally either have something to hide, are a BYB, or a puppymill. That's why I always advise people not to go to petstores. You are almost certain to get a dog with some kind of health problem. Petstores usually don't even ask any questions or tell you much about the breed, they're just interested in what's in your pocketbook. Sorry to give you the bad news. But I'm happy that you're more educated on everything now and coming to this site to learn more. Welcome to YT.

Well - Shame on me - I got my puppy from a Pet Store also.

I got a little male Yorkie - took him to the Vet the next day and got a clean bill of health.....testicles dropped, good knees, good heart, no noticeable problems. The Vet said that she certainly does see a lot of problems in pet store animals - but said mine appeared to be perfectly happy and healthy.

This particular pet store has been in Spokane forever - same owner. It isn't a very large store. They do a lot of grooming and sell pet supplies. And - they don't have a lot of pets for sale. Their animals appear happy and healthy and appeared to be well taken care of.

They assured me that if the vet found any serious health problems I could return him for a full refund. Also - I do give them credit for this. No visitors in the store were allowed to handle any of the puppies or kittens If some one was interested in purchasing a puppy, they could handle it. The owners and anyone else who handled any puppy or kitten had to wash their hands - every time!

Also, once I said I was interested in purchasing a particular pup - I was let hold and play with it... The store was busy, but the owners (father and son) spent so much time (45 minutes or more) talking to me about Yorkies and how to care for them that I almost wanted them to finish so I could take my new puppy and go home. They gave me numerous handouts - care - feeding - etc. and read through each of them with me and explained everything.

The owner gave me a card and told me to call him anytime (even in the middle of the night) if I had any problem - even if the puppy wouldn't eat.

They did give me a paper saying that the puppy is registered AKC and CKC.

The paper gave information about all its vaccinations and when the next ones are due.

The puppy's tail is cropped and it's dew claws have been removed. Before I left the store with it, it was taken to the back room - spiffy cleaned, nails clipped, and bows placed around his neck and on the top of his head. He looked good and smelled good and was ready to go.

They did tell me that the breeder raised Yorkies and that this puppy's mother had had 5 litters and is not going to be bred anymore. Sounded like they had sold her puppies before.

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As far as papers - I'm am going to check back on that. On the papers they gave me - it does have the breeder's name and the names and numbers of the sire and dam. So - I will get back with them on this.

I'm sure my Yorkie is pet quality. Looks like he's not going to be 7 pounds or less - they said they believe he will be between 5 and 10 pounds ---which is fine with me. He has a 21-pound Bichon who is already (in two weeks) his best friend - and a couple extra pounds won't hurt him.

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So - maybe I lucked out. I don't know why I bought him from a pet store. If I had thought about it, I knew better than to do that. I think it is because I wanted a Yorkie so bad - and had looked for quite a while - that when I found out they had two - I ran, looked, loved and bought one.

Maybe, in spite of my stupidity, I lucked out and visited a store that is a little more above board than a lot of them are.

I'll keep you posted on whatever happens regarding papers. I want to get papers - but really don't need them. My puppy is a pet and will be neutered when it's time.

Carol Jean

How can I get info on the Breeder..Continued ...
 

I have been looking on Busters paperwork and found that his parents had #'s next to their names. They are P26855201 and R07056305. Does anyone know what these numbers are? Then next to the Breeders name it says Kathy White USDA 43 A 443. Any of this make sense to anyone?

Puppy Petite
 

Puppy Petite sells puppy mill dogs. I live in Brooklyn and would love to help you solve this mystery of where your puppy came from -- although I'm sure the news is going to be sad. If you'd like any help at all, PLEASE let me know or PM me. I'm very interested in shutting down that horrible place -- I, along with others, have been trying to for a while now. So if I can do anything to help you, please let me know.

Helping
 

I am also trying hard to find out more about your puppies origin..Please keep me informed about what you find!


Thanks :)

What they told you "may" been true about the breeder.....I don't know. Below is what I found on the information you provided......both parents ARE AKC registered. And the USDA # is the breeders USDA license number.....this means she DOES have a kennel of some type. And I did find the sire is owned by a K While.......hope this helps. Good luck and just love your little fellow....he's very lucky to have you.
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Sire: Little Dandy Duke
born Jan 10,2002
AKC #TP26855201
Owner K White

Dam: White's Kimiyo
born: Dec 02, 2002
AKC #TR07056305

Thanks for all of the info! You giys are GREAT!!!!.. any idea what state Kathy is located in?? If his parents are AKC registared, why isnt/cant he be? or Can he be?

Whether or not the puppy can be registered is strickly up to the litter owner which is also the breeder. If puppy was sold to you per contract as "not AKC registered" then I don't think you can do anything. But registeration papers do not mean anything anyway.....unless you are going the show the puppy in conformation. If you wish to enter other AKC events.....you can get a AKC ILP listing for unregistered pure-bred dogs....many dogs have this number to compete in obedience or agility and any AKC event except conformation.
Here is some information...almost any pure-bred dog can complete in AKC events.
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Indefinite Listing Privilege
Giving all purebred dogs a chance to compete

Note: A fee of $10 was instituted, effective January 1, 2003, for Indefinite Listing Privilege transfers or duplicate certificates. For more information contact ILP@akc.org.

The AKC, ILP and You
Many people have discovered the fun of teaming up with their dogs and competing in AKC Events. But, not all of those wonderful canine athletes that you see at these events are registered with the AKC. Some might be enrolled in the AKC's Indefinite Listing Privilege (ILP), a program that allows unregistered dogs of registrable breeds to compete in AKC Performance and Companion Events, also 18 specific breeds in the FSS® Program that are eligible for Companion Events.

If you have a purebred dog that cannot be registered with the AKC and have a desire to see what your dog can do in real competition, an ILP number is your ticket to the world of AKC events and clubs!

Indefinite Listing Privilege Program (ILP): The program that provides purebred dogs a second chance. There are various reasons why a purebred dog might not be eligible for registration. The dog may the product of an unregistered litter, or have unregistered parents. The dog's papers may have been withheld by its breeder or lost by its owner. Sometimes, it is the dog itself that was "lost." There are many dogs enrolled in the ILP program after they have been surrendered or abandoned, then adopted by new owners from animal shelters or purebred rescue groups. The ILP program allows the dog and owner a second chance at discovering the rewards of participating in AKC events.

I don't think you need to feel ashamed...

It does sound like you came across one of the good pet stores that doesn't get their puppies from a puppymill. There are many small mom and pop type pet stores in small towns across the country that still sell happy, healthy puppies from good breeders.

It is mostly the large, chain type stores like Petland, etc. that are the worst and shouldn't be selling puppies.

While it is ture that most pet stores get their puppies from puppymills, there are exceptions. It is so important to be careful and to even ask to speak to the breeder in that situation even if just for your own peace of mind.

Congratulations on your new baby!

Carol Jean:

Howdy neighbor. I live in Ephrata, and spent Turkey Day in Spokane.

Kate
QUOTE=SnowWa]Well - Shame on me - I got my puppy car4olfrom a Pet Store also.

I got a little male Yorkie - took him to the Vet the next day and got a clean bill of health.....testicles dropped, good knees, good heart, no noticeable problems. The Vet said that she certainly does see a lot of problems in pet store animals - but said mine appeared to be perfectly happy and healthy.

This particular pet store has been in Spokane forever - same owner. It isn't a very large store. They do a lot of grooming and sell pet supplies. And - they don't have a lot of pets for sale. Their animals appear happy and healthy and appeared to be well taken care of.

They assured me that if the vet found any serious health problems I could return him for a full refund. Also - I do give them credit for this. No visitors in the store were allowed to handle any of the puppies or kittens If some one was interested in purchasing a puppy, they could handle it. The owners and anyone else who handled any puppy or kitten had to wash their hands - every time!

Also, once I said I was interested in purchasing a particular pup - I was let hold and play with it... The store was busy, but the owners (father and son) spent so much time (45 minutes or more) talking to me about Yorkies and how to care for them that I almost wanted them to finish so I could take my new puppy and go home. They gave me numerous handouts - care - feeding - etc. and read through each of them with me and explained everything.

The owner gave me a card and told me to call him anytime (even in the middle of the night) if I had any problem - even if the puppy wouldn't eat.

They did give me a paper saying that the puppy is registered AKC and CKC.

The paper gave information about all its vaccinations and when the next ones are due.

The puppy's tail is cropped and it's dew claws have been removed. Before I left the store with it, it was taken to the back room - spiffy cleaned, nails clipped, and bows placed around his neck and on the top of his head. He looked good and smelled good and was ready to go.

They did tell me that the breeder raised Yorkies and that this puppy's mother had had 5 litters and is not going to be bred anymore. Sounded like they had sold her puppies before.

---------------

As far as papers - I'm am going to check back on that. On the papers they gave me - it does have the breeder's name and the names and numbers of the sire and dam. So - I will get back with them on this.

I'm sure my Yorkie is pet quality. Looks like he's not going to be 7 pounds or less - they said they believe he will be between 5 and 10 pounds ---which is fine with me. He has a 21-pound Bichon who is already (in two weeks) his best friend - and a couple extra pounds won't hurt him.

--------------

So - maybe I lucked out. I don't know why I bought him from a pet store. If I had thought about it, I knew better than to do that. I think it is because I wanted a Yorkie so bad - and had looked for quite a while - that when I found out they had two - I ran, looked, loved and bought one.

Maybe, in spite of my stupidity, I lucked out and visited a store that is a little more above board than a lot of them are.

I'll keep you posted on whatever happens regarding papers. I want to get papers - but really don't need them. My puppy is a pet and will be neutered when it's time.

Carol Jean[/QUOTE]

Yorkie paperwork
 

This may be an old question or answered many times over... sorry. Is the breeder responsible for AKC registration fees or the buyer? I am paying in the neighborhood of $2000 for a female Yorkie and wonder who pays the $63 or so fee? Also can the registeration papers be amended after submitting? I am talking weeks or months later not due to a mistake but making changes thereafter.?

Kathy White is a breeder somewhere in the midwest. I have talked to her once but I cant find her information any longer

I got Kathys information by calling the AKC giving the registration number of the dog and she was the breeder of record they will give you her name and address but will not give her phone number

as far as who pays for the registration.. We breeders register litters and pay for that, you as the new adoptee pay for the AKC registration for your specific dog registering his/her name

hope this helps

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Luckierdog...you as the new owner of the dog pay to register it. The breeder pays to register the litter..then each litter application for registration is given to each new puppy owner.

Once the dog is registered, it is final, nothing can be changed, except to add a co-owner..and if AKC made a mistake in the printing of info.

Kind help
 

Thank you for your informative answers. It is really appreciated...