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Wrenee4 09-14-2011 02:11 PM
Oh wow that is not professional for a vet to state that a tiny girl like that should be bred at all and even more so to a 6 lb male making him twice her size. I highly suggest finding a GOOD vet and spaying her. If you are going to plan and have her have the puppies I would plan a csection and spay at that time. You will need the vet's home number in case she starts labor in the middle of the night OR you will need to take her to the ER. The ER here in Grand Rapids (approx 1/2 hour away from Holland) starts at $1,500 for a csection and I wouldn't want my girl to be csectioned at an ER vet. If you are interested I can give you the contact info to my personal vet who is also a reproduction specialist, but they are here in GR. They will go over tube feeding/bottle feedings if the puppies make it...depending on size and I bet they would have to be small with three of them I am guessing every 2 hour feedings and thats all night and day long.

MikaTallulah 09-14-2011 02:23 PM
The vet must have been smoking crack to give you the advice to breed. Be prepared for a high vet.bills and a lot of lost sleep if you don't terminate the pregnancy. Good luck.

gracielove 09-14-2011 02:35 PM
She should have been spayed. Producing puppies from a dog the size of yours is not a sound decision. No reputable vet would have ever told you it was OK to breed that dog. You say yourself that you know nothing about birthing puppies and yet you went ahead and let a 6 pound male breed your little girl. I don't know who I am more disgusted with. So now you want advice!

Buster Brown 09-14-2011 02:55 PM
I really am sorry to hear that your Vet recommended you breed your LITTLE girl and your boy based on beauty and coolness rather than what is in the best interest of your baby girls' health. Perhaps this vet will assume all your medical bills as they did not recommend what was in the best interest of your baby girl but I doubt that. To bad they do not believe in the Hippocratic Oath.
The Hippocratic Oath is an oath historically taken by doctors and other healthcare professionals swearing to practice medicine ethically. "I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone."
Also I would recommend having Carlo neutered so no other unplanned pregnancies occur. I wish you and your baby girl luck during this difficult time.

AprilLove 09-14-2011 03:25 PM
Your title is funny, it is verbatim of someones words used on another forum in a post, exept for the "help" part, I must be having de-ja-vu :D

Wow, hopefullly you do right by her. Its amazing that she was 3 lbs at 3 months old and less than that at two years? Is she healthy? I don't know of any healthy Yorkies that stayed the same adult weight as their 12 week weight :confused: I would be concerned about that as well. Just wondering... Good luck with whatever you decide, hopefully its in favor of her life..

RachelandSadie 09-14-2011 03:37 PM
you know that you did the WRONG thing and don't need us to tell you that. Spay your girl and spare her life from trying to birth babies from a bigger stud than she is. Neuter your male so this never happens again. Learn your lesson and don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you for doing something so irresponsible. hope you listen and your girl survives this mess you put her in.

MadDeDo 09-14-2011 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AprilLove (Post 3666360)
Your title is funny, it is verbatim of someones words used on another forum in a post, exept for the "help" part, I must be having de-ja-vu :D

Wow, hopefullly you do right by her. Its amazing that she was 3 lbs at 3 months old and less than that at two years? Is she healthy? I don't know of any healthy Yorkies that stayed the same adult weight as their 12 week weight :confused: I would be concerned about that as well. Just wondering... Good luck with whatever you decide, hopefully its in favor of her life..
Wow. That is certainly interesting. I don't know any either. :confused:

Imma-captivated 09-14-2011 05:50 PM
Thank you all for you input and advice. Chloe is a healthy little girl and none of the vets she has seen have been concerned about her size or weight. Even when I questioned why she wasn't growing or gaining weight they just said she was fine and that was what was normal weight for her. The first vet she went to in Fl. was a man who had expressed concern about spaying her due to the size of his hands. When she started bleeding in Dec 10.. I decided to take her to a different vet should she have to be spayed. That is where a young female vet suggested there was no reason she couldn't have pups.. have a C section and then at that time be spayed. The vet I took her to yesterday here in Michigan.. never mentioned taking the babies.

However.. I do believe I will call tomorrow and make plans for her to do so.

Thank you all again for taking the time to post and express your honest opinions.

BabyGirl Rosie 09-14-2011 06:06 PM
I am very surprised that your vets seem to think it is ok with her size to have pups. Mikki is 3 1/2 lb and my vet recommended her spay immediately. He said it was way too much of a risk for her to have pups. Not that we were even considering it. Because we were not. He was just offering his expert opinion. Your girl is smaller than that. I am concerned that the vets you have seen don't think this is a problem. I pray that your little girl is able to handle this situation. And I think it is time to find a reputable vet in your area.

BanditSocks2 09-14-2011 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Imma-captivated (Post 3666612)
Thank you all for you input and advice. Chloe is a healthy little girl and none of the vets she has seen have been concerned about her size or weight. Even when I questioned why she wasn't growing or gaining weight they just said she was fine and that was what was normal weight for her. The first vet she went to in Fl. was a man who had expressed concern about spaying her due to the size of his hands. When she started bleeding in Dec 10.. I decided to take her to a different vet should she have to be spayed. That is where a young female vet suggested there was no reason she couldn't have pups.. have a C section and then at that time be spayed. The vet I took her to yesterday here in Michigan.. never mentioned taking the babies.

However.. I do believe I will call tomorrow and make plans for her to do so.

Thank you all again for taking the time to post and express your honest opinions.
That seems like the best decision for your little girl. Good luck with the surgery.

chachi 09-14-2011 08:07 PM
I think you have made the best decision for your female. Thanks for being open minded and listening to advice. We have seen this many times before on here and we have seen the end result also so our advice comes from that perspective

RachelandSadie 09-14-2011 08:15 PM
i am glad that you decided to spay her and not risk her on with this pregnancy. big applause to you for listening to experienced breeders and yorkie owners over the voice of unreason you seem to be getting from these vets. i don't know why but you have had some very bad luck with vets. i don't always agree that vets know best anyways especially when it comes to tiny dog breeding. the best people to ask about breeding are in fact the breeders (NOTE: not just any breeder but the breeders that are governed by their breed's parent club and have had a long lifetime and history of ethical breeding practices for show not for profit)

anyways i'm proud to know someone who took advice and seems like you will be listening to it. prob time to find a new vet that understands the dangers of 3lb dogs trying to give birth. and the vet that told you just do a C-section and she'll be fine is NUTS. no one would purposefully have a C-section for their tiny baby. that's just crazy! these dogs have hard enough lives being so little without idiot vets willing to risk their lives on a pregnancy and C-section.

spay her and you won't regret saving her life from the possible outcomes.

southernbelle04 09-14-2011 08:16 PM
Well I'm a newbie and new to all this Yorkie stuff, but I had to say that your post title made me laugh. It made me think of Prissy from Gone With The Wind! That's my favorite movie! Sorry to be off topic. I hope you'll find the help you need here though! :)

Mom to Hot Rod 09-14-2011 09:37 PM
I know nothing about breeding. It sounds as though you've gotten some really good advice already. Please make sure whatever you do, you keep the health of your little girl first and foremost.

Good luck.

JPop & Taz 2 09-15-2011 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Imma-captivated (Post 3666051)
I just wrote a loooooong post left my computer for about 10 min came back finished it off ... clicked to post it and voila' it says I'm not logged in.

My furgirl Chloe is almost 2 and I found out yesterday she is about 4 weeks pregnant.. the bad news is she typically weighs 2.9-3.2 lbs. The vet said she is expecting at least 3. I am currently in MI.. we usually leave for Fl for the winter in Oct.-Nov. but not this year.

My main concern is ... should I plan on a C-section? This is what was suggested to me by a vet in Fl. should she get pregnant. My daughter said she thought Chloe might have difficulty nursing if she doesn't give birth naturally.

I know she is small but the vet thought she would have only one.. and that she could be neutered after the C section.

We have the male Carlo.. he is just 1 year and weighs close to 6lbs. Please don't lecture me on being irresponsible.. I had never planned on breeding her due to her size until this particular vet said she thought they should have a baby because Chloe is so beautiful and Carlo is so cool.

At any rate the damage is done.. My main concern is for the health of Chloe. I would love to have one of their babies but I am now concerned if she will nurse if a C section is performed.

I have edited this considerably after spending so much time on the first post... please don't judge me.. I need sound advice.
A story about my little Tia.....I found my little girl through a newspaper article, stating she was 1 year old and weighed 2 lbs. I already had 5 babies at the time, but there was something about the ad that called to me. I inquired, and the "breeder" informed me that she had left Tia in the pen with her males and didn't know she was in heat so she was probably pregnant. I knew then that I had to have her to save her. After much haggling, we agreed on a price and I rescued that baby. This was on Good Friday 2 yrs ago. I had an appt. with my vet for the following Tuesday. He aborted and spayed her and she is doing terrific now. He told me she would probably have died if we hadn't done the surgery. So PLEASE, take my advise and take care of this baby. You could very possibly loose her and the babies.

Good luck!


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