You did not pass on it.

As for insulting dog owners and Americans, I am not insulted and I am both. I totally understand what she said. The magical word in that sentence is *some*.

You my friend, are so off base with your comment I don't even know where to begin. Let me break this down for you since it seems that you have somehow missed the point of her two very poignant sentences.

When we as pet owners are willing to give every available means of care to ensure our pets are well taken care in all aspects of ownership it is very disheartening it is very hard to understand how others lack this same fortitude. If more of my fellow Americans too the responsibly they have taken on when making their decision we would not even be having this conversation. There are far too many people that breeder, purchase, rehome without even thinking twice about these decision. If everyone took the same outlook on the lives of animals your comment would be mute. But your statement just proved the point of what others are so upset about~lack of accountability for choices made.

Just yesterday I was driving along and passed a young man hitch hiking. He had a backpack on his back and a dog on a leash at his side. They were walking down the side of the road together. The dog was wagging his tail and looked well fed and happy. The young man looked to be lack a shower but his dog looked well taken care of. I thought to myself what must have happened to bring these two together and then I sadly thought of all the people who would have rehomed, dropped at a shelter or just let loose their responsibly when the times got tough. He in a strange way inspired me! I really gave him a lot of credit for doing whatever was necessary to take care and be responsible to his pet.

Others want to pass on their responsibly and cry hardship as a easy out. Then point their finger to others that take the offense to this attitude of "it's only a dog".

If only more people too their responsibly more seriously there would be no need for this discussion. :(

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OK, I give up already! I agree that too many people don't take the care of their pets seriously enough, but I still think humans come first. You don't know what I believe or what I'd do for my pets. Making broad statements and calling it un-American to find a home for a pet in need ... leaves me speechless!

I'm not exactly sure where you keep getting this from? She is not insulting Americans! The woman who came here asking for "help" was Canadian. When the comment was made about "us Americans" she (107Barney) said that because she is IN America. If she was in Argentina she'd be speaking on behalf of Argentinians and saying "us Argentinians." Would you feel more comfortable if she said "us citizens of the world?" I'm not even going to bother talking about the responsibility of having a pet because I've already made a comment on it and you most certainly are entitled to your opinion. However, I will be more than happy to make sure that you clearly understand what is being said here because NOWHERE and I mean NOWHERE has ANYONE said ANYTHING about something being un-American so...at least understand that.

Where did you see someone calling another un-American? That is not what she said.

Maybe I jut need more caffeine this morning, but no where did I see Cathy say it was un-Anerican to help a dog in need. But it should be once again pointed out that the dogs are in need only because of the lifestyle choice of the OP.

I truly hope Pooter and Tikka are placed together in a home that loves and adores them and realizes that dogs are a lifetime commitment.

I've had two cups already and I don't see it either.

Please take a minute and point out where this was said by anyone except you by putting words into her mouth? :confused:

Oh and I'm on my second cup of coffee too but maybe I need to crack out the hard stuff :beermug::beermug::beermug:to figure how this thread because about 107barney and her American hating ways. :rolleyes:

Let me add this as well~the OPer did not have a pet in need. She was feeding her OWN NEED to be with her boyfriend while he traveled as a hunting guide. Far different than this being a situation of a poor dog having a need. Her decision was made for no other reason that only considering her own personal wants~ Which sadly seems to be a common thread that binds so many rehomed animals all over shelters and rescues in AMERICA!

ETA in my previous post I meant to say "how this thread became about 107barney and her American hating ways. :rolleyes:"

My posts did not leave you speechless, unfortunately.

First things first....I made no sweeping generalization, and I did not call it un-American to find a home for a pet in need. What I said was that the views of some people and their concept of pet ownership and responsibility are very far away from mine. What's wrong with that? I realize you have your back up because you gave up a dog as you stated earlier (after all, humans first is your view). But, my view is that my dogs are family members on the same exact plane with the humans who are my family members. You may choose to relegate your animals to a lesser status, but I do not, and not only will I not apologize for that view, I think it is a correct one.

Just to personalize it for a second -- I have a little epileptic dog. He has many challenges. A dog like Teddy would be cast aside by many. He will never be cast aside by me, and I thank God every day that he has entrusted me to care for this little darling. I consider it a privilege to administer his medication every 12 hours, to wipe up his accidents because he can't remember all the time what he is suppose to do, to encourage him daily with basic commands that he confuses, and to play the games he likes that mentally stimulate him. That is the honor to me of being guardian to a dog who has a disability. Perhaps he picked me for this reason and for as long as he is on this earth, he has a home where he is a family member.

I look for solutions to problems, and I will always find a way. I'm sorry you didn't, but that's not surprising since, after all, it's just a dog...

:bravo: This is why I proudly call you my friend! :hug:

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with everyone. This makes me sad/angry.

I would NEVER give my pet away just so I could enjoy my vacation. It would make me selfish. At least that's how I would feel.

This whole thing is not fair to Pooter. He is an innocent dog who loves you to pieces. I am asking you to please consider this.

I’ve been following this thread and I know I probably should stay out of this debate but I feel compelled to put in my two cents. I respect all of you YT’ers for your passion and different viewpoints.

For me, dogs are not the same as people. They are more important. I believe we should put the needs of our pets above the needs of our human family members. With the exception of very young children, humans have the ability to meet their own needs. Our pets do not. They are completely dependent on us to care for them. That is the commitment we accept when we bring them into our lives.

For me, this really comes down to a fundamental philosophical difference. I don’t believe that we are here to dominate nature, or the animals that we share the earth with. I believe that we are meant to live in harmony with nature. We, collectively, have a responsibility to care for all living creatures that we share this earth with, but especially our pets, as we have chosen to domesticate them.

That’s my two cents and I know not all will agree.

No, not all will; but I will wholeheartedly..and so will many others. :)

Being a pet owner has made me like pets alot more then people at times...

I completely agree. You definitely put it in the right words. :thumbup:

Since Tibbe is a family member, he comes before my vacations and many other things - even work at times - as with any other family member. To me, that is what having a dog is all about - adding to the family and as part of the family, that little furball is put first in whatever I may decide to do. If it cannot be worked out to accommodate his needs, I forego it. It is so simple when you love a dog. You don't have to fret and strain and moralize - the dog comes first and you work out your life around him/her. I don't look at Tibbe as something I got to fill my needs for a while and then shift to the side when something threatens to supersede him in importance. Truth is, with a dog lover, the responsibility for that little life is forever and that sweet little furbaby is just one of the most important things in the world to his momma or daddy! Trade my baby for a trip? Not on your life! Not at age 18, 38, 58 or now! If a person doesn't have that level of devotion to his or her potential dog - why even get it?

I completely agree and this sums up my feelings perfectly. :thumbup: Great post!

:thumbup::thumbup: I love this. Teddy sure is a lucky guy to have found a mom like you when others may have given up on him. If only more pet owners stayed true to their pets no matter what...

The world should be so lucky as to have only people like you have pets!

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Mama2 - have you seen the animal/human/nature documentary Earthlings? It's *extremely* traumatic to watch, but it's along your philosophies, which are the same as mine. Earthlings is available via DVD and online at EARTHLINGS - Make the Connection. | Nation Earth. Do not watch unless you think you're prepared...and even then, it can shred your heart....just a warning.

Thanks for the recommendation. I don't have much fortitude for things like this but I will consider checking it out.

Did anyone else realize she's had both dogs for less than a year? Pooter in October and Tikka was apparently added in April? I think I also understand why she said "it might as well be Pooter," (when talking about the one she arbitrarily gives up) it might have something to do with the fact that she got the dog for free, but she "bought" Tikka. :(

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...-new-yt-d.html

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Well, I guess I need to 'open my big mouth'. ;)

I love my animals with my life. I too have a disabled little tiny. She has CP, and as she has gotten older (5) her front right paw has totally curled and she can only barely scoot to get around a little bit on her pad to potty, to her water, to her bed. She is and angel actually name is 'Angel Baby'. I lost a beautiful one at 4 yrs to severe collapsed trachea last fall. I gave up vacations, company (she would get too excited and would have an attack that could last days or weeks). I didn't mind. They are my furkids. They have saved my life after our only child was murdered. I have a chihuahua that has to have allergy shots....I don't care I'd do ANYTHING for them!

I do not feel people should just get rid of their animals because they are tired of them etc.

Still, however, I stand by my feelings that when circumstances change or a tragedy, sometimes they have to be rehomed.

I would rather see some dogs rehomed than to be kept somewhere where they will be felt as a burdon and not treated or cared for as they should be just because the owner thinks they 'have to' because it's their dog. Let the poor animals so somewhere where they will be loved and cared for properly. I DO think that is better than sticking by the thought that you made the decision to have this dog keep it an deal with it. Sometimes those dogs end up being the poor animals that are kept in pens outside with no attention ever except for food and water.(if the owners remember)

I agree, but would edit to say 'sometimes it is better for the dog to be rehomed'.

I also agree that folks need to be serious about adopting pets, that it is a lifetime commitment. Granted, many young people on YT are seriously commited to their Yorkies, but I think you all are a 'rare' breed. I do wish it was more the 'norm' but people grow and mature differently, at different rates, so not all 21 year olds are responsible to the same level. And some people never learn what commitment really is.

I do think the OP made the right decision to rehome her dogs. She realized hers was not the appropriate situation/lifestyle for these little ones, and that they would have better lives with people who have a more settled life, and a stable home.

Should she have adopted the dogs in the first place? No, she made a mistake, realized her mistake, and wanted to do the next best thing for her pups by rehoming them. Rehoming means that some effort is put in to finding a good home, as opposed to 'dumping' them at the pound or a shelter, or in the street, as many do.

I am sad for the pups that she has made this decision, but she needs to do what she thinks is right for her, and she will have to live with her decision. Hopefully she will learn about making commitments as she matures, and doesn't keep making the same mistake over and over again.

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Honestly, I think people that are committed to their dogs are a "rare breed," which is independent of age. How many craigslist ads have we seen people wanting to rehome their pets because of a new baby, or moving to a new house/apartment? Or, how many irresponsible adults have we seen try to make a buck by breeding dogs? I'm just saying that I don't think age brings about better care/responsibility for pets...I just think some people have an affinity towards animals and others do not and never will. Not trying to insult anyone...I just don't like the generalizations made of those of us that are younger...I think we should be measured by the same ruler of responsibility as those of you that are older :)

Thank you, I agree totally. I wish I could help and take in more furbabies, but DH would leave me for sure! Actually 3 are plenty to take care of, but there is always that longing when I see one that 'needs' a new home! I have had yorkies for over 20+ years. I love the breed, and will always have at least one. Even the disabled are fun and smart. My youngest, a year, is having a terrible time getting trained, and some people won't put up with that, but I would NEVER think of surrendering her! That is the difference between people and what they will endure but as we all know (the people on this site) we can deal with about anything!!:D