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ladyjane 04-03-2011 02:34 PM
I keep seeing this money making trend of thinking.

The drug manufacturers don't write the laws so it clearly is not done as a money maker for them.

The cities and states who pass the laws don't get a kick back from the drug manufacturers.

It is just that rabies is governed by state and local laws. Those laws are passed out of a concern for public health. Period. No conspiracy.

chomper09 04-03-2011 02:40 PM
i use to work at a vet office and they would give the first shot as a 1yr shot then after it would switch to every three years

backwardsrain 04-03-2011 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3486178)
I keep seeing this money making trend of thinking.

The drug manufacturers don't write the laws so it clearly is not done as a money maker for them.

The cities and states who pass the laws don't get a kick back from the drug manufacturers.

It is just that rabies is governed by state and local laws. Those laws are passed out of a concern for public health. Period. No conspiracy.
You can bet your bottom dollar the vaccine manufacturers have hired lobbyists to persuade politicians who write these laws. That is how all the human drug companies work, pretty much every major industry actually.

ladyjane 04-03-2011 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by backwardsrain (Post 3486191)
You can bet your bottom dollar the vaccine manufacturers have hired lobbyists to persuade politicians who write these laws. That is how all the human drug companies work, pretty much every major industry actually.

Guess they are not doing such a great job since so many go with the 3 year vaccines. :)

BabyGirl Rosie 04-03-2011 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3486178)
I keep seeing this money making trend of thinking.

The drug manufacturers don't write the laws so it clearly is not done as a money maker for them.

The cities and states who pass the laws don't get a kick back from the drug manufacturers.

It is just that rabies is governed by state and local laws. Those laws are passed out of a concern for public health. Period. No conspiracy.

Thanks for clearing that up. It was starting to look that way. It is nice to know that it is not. I have given the vaccine in the past. Just don't want to if it is not necessary. Thanks!!

Gatord 04-03-2011 03:02 PM
ack got the 3 yr rabbies this year.

gaijingirl 04-03-2011 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by backwardsrain (Post 3486114)
I live in TN too and my vet said he would give my dog the 3 year vaccine, and I would have to come back every year to get an updated license tag. So I've never been quite sure whether the law said every 3 years or if my vet was just letting me do that and giving me the tags without a shot every time.

I've researched it and it seems to me that the scientific studies support the idea that most vaccines are lifelong and only need to be given to puppies. Just like most human vaccines. I'm convinced the reason we have yearly vaccinations in dogs is because it makes the vaccine companies more money!
Are you in Davidson Co.? Here is a post by Kris Christine, from the Rabies Challenge Fund. You can probably look up the law that she cites:
MCL 8.04.040

concretegurl 04-04-2011 03:12 AM
The vac is a 3 year vac, but local laws often require it yearly-seem completely illogical to me, I don't think over vaccinating can be healthy at all especially in small dogs.

We debated it due to a rabies epidemic here a couple years ago and went though thinking of changing the city (county) regulations/laws. Local vets stood up and presented the facts on it so we stuck at 3 years since the vac lasts that long-check if "titers" are allowed in your area also.

All pups have to get it once under one and then again after then go to three years per vets recommendations.

TexasKat08 04-04-2011 05:37 AM
In Texas, puppies are supposed to get the 1st vaccine at 4 months and a booster 12 months later. Once both of these vaccines are given, either a 1 year or 3 year booster can be given. My daughter told me that the vet she works for (as a registered vet tech) only offers the 1 year option as a way to ensure that owners bring their dogs in every year. Otherwise, they might wait 3 years between vet visits.

Also, from what I understand, individual counties in TX can make exceptions to the state law based on the history of rabies outbreaks.

ladyjane 04-04-2011 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasKat08 (Post 3486576)
In Texas, puppies are supposed to get the 1st vaccine at 4 months and a booster 12 months later. Once both of these vaccines are given, either a 1 year or 3 year booster can be given. My daughter told me that the vet she works for (as a registered vet tech) only offers the 1 year option as a way to ensure that owners bring their dogs in every year. Otherwise, they might wait 3 years between vet visits.

Also, from what I understand, individual counties in TX can make exceptions to the state law based on the history of rabies outbreaks.
Vets who do that are the ones that make people think that money is more important to the vets than the welfare of the animals they see.

If a vet told me that he would take a risk of over vaccinating my pups just so that I would come in each year, I would walk out and never return.

I am sure he is thinking/saying that this is a way to encourage people to have their pets examined by him each year; but I believe that education will bring them back. There are other things that are needed yearly such as Heartworm testing. A responsible pet owner is going to come back if they are armed with knowledge, including the risks of over vaccinating!

He is going against the AAHA recommendations and to me that is a huge concern.

TexasKat08 04-04-2011 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3486586)
Vets who do that are the ones that make people think that money is more important to the vets than the welfare of the animals they see.
I agree completely that this is the way it comes across. It sure didn't make my daughter happy either as she is fully aware that a rabies vaccine every 3 years is arguably the better option.

ladyjane 04-04-2011 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasKat08 (Post 3486593)
I agree completely that this is the way it comes across. It sure didn't make my daughter happy either as she is fully aware that a rabies vaccine every 3 years is arguably the better option.
Does he do the DHPP yearly as well?

TexasKat08 04-04-2011 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3486594)
Does he do the DHPP yearly as well?
I'm not sure. And I should have stated she works in CO now. The laws there are a bit vague. We had a conversation about the rabies vaccine specifically because the vet she works for chewed her out for offering a client the option of the 3 year vaccination, which then caused the vet to implement a policy in the clinic offering only the 1 year vaccine. It is a new clinic and the policy was certainly a business decision. Actually, this disagreement with the vet has prompted my daughter to change clinics.

BabyGirl Rosie 04-04-2011 02:06 PM
The vet I see recommends all the vaccines yearly. I am going to question him on this at Rosie's yearly. I researched Arkansas law. It appears the 3 year option has been brought up. However, I do not believe it has changed from the yearly rabies shot at this point. So, at this point, it looks like the yearly is the law. If it last for the 3 years, I don't agree with the yearly at all then. I don't know if I can debate it if it is the law. :( But I am going to start asking more questions.


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