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I have a friend who decided to mate her dog with her neighbors dog. Puppies were born and 2 out of the 5 have passed away. Both girls (neighbor and friend) are freaked out as they've never bred a dog before and don't know what do to. They are stressed beyond belief. I had a talk before about altering dogs with my friend but that didn't go too far as we can see.

I'm sort of peeved about the situation but also feel bad for the dogs. I mean seriously, this is what you get when you don't know what your doing and try to youtube "how to help your dog give birth".

I am sure ALOT of experienced breeders have lost pups too. I can understand your concern before but if they didn't heed to that, then my concern would have shifted to the pregnancy. Did you get a chance to be there during delivery? Did they do something wrong that you could see? There was a post a little while back from a girl who just literally sat back and watched the puppy die in the sac. She could have rubbed it off of the poor thing and tried to do something, but she didn't. Natures way, or something to that effect ,she called it. That was being cruel.
I am not a breeder from way back, but my girl just has her first litter in Nov, 2010. I researched endlessly, joined this forum and had a vet on call. Sometimes, it IS a matter of fact of "Nature". I am sorry for the little ones. Hopefully this will have shocked them enough to not try this again and have both animals altered.

No I wasn't there for the delivery. One did call the vet and the two pups who were in distress did get taken to the vet so at least they did that. I would think that it's shaken them enough to not do this again, but I doubt that either owner will get them fixed. Maybe the owner of the female may because but I know my friend won't with her male.

Many people dont know the first thing about breeding and think it is as simple as putting two dogs together and letting them get on with it. It is a shame that they have learned the hard way that its not that easy. I hope they dont let their dogs breed again, because these puppies did not have to die.

wow-- again I am sadden by what I read. I -at one time- thought of my Remy having pups.. after being on this site and all that I have researched I have changed my mind. One day when I can give it 100% and have more knowledge I may breed but not now. I know many people don't see their pups as a valuable life.

I read, studied, talked with breeders, read, studied, watched, read, studied some more on and on --- I thought I was prepared, but I don't think anything really prepares for your first litter.
Our first pup came out with a really thick sac...despite how prepared I thought I was, I freaked, thank goodness I had 2 people with me that were experienced. The sac was sooo hard to break, we ended up having to use scissors. The pup wouldn't latch on at first --- had trouble breathing (I think despite our fairly quick efforts he was in the sac too long), I fed him through the night, took him to ER, (vet said, "let him go...sometimes they don't make it") to which I said "BS" --- by morning he latched on and ended up being the strongest of the 3
I couldn't believe the ER vet just wanted me to give up on him at only a couple hours old - all because he wasn't latching on and I was feeding him a milk replacer and the beef liver remedy (which I think the latter made all the difference).
Anyway, yak, yak...I do believe breeding is not for the faint of heart that's for sure. I would never recommend anyone go it alone (certainly for the first couple of litters), always have someone there/an extra pair of hands, as while one person was getting him to breathe properly, the other person and I were helping with the other pups as they came out (she had them fast!)