Mia Update.
 

Had Mia back at the vet today again for another follow up. He put her back on antibiotics and if no further improvement in two weeks he is going to refer her to a pulmonary doctor at the University of Penn. He equivilates her to like a human premie because she is so tiny. He feels this is why she is not fighting off the respiratory problem, but is happy that she has gained weight and is playful and eating. Please keep Mia in your prayers.

That's a positive, she's gained weight, eating & playing. Praying for little Mia's recovery.

Praying for Mia.....the Tiny ones are nerve wracking aren't they?

I am glad Mia is gaining weight and playful Hopefully as she gets a little stronger she will be able to fight off the infection.

Sending hugs to you and Mia

Keeping Mia in our thoughts and prayers...and sending you hugs :D

Keeping little Mia in my thoughts and prayers!! Glad to hear she is gaining weight....thanks for the update on her...:D

Sending prayers for your little Mia. I hope the antibiotics work.

I will say a prayer for your little Mia. She has had such a rough start and you are a good Mommy for getting her all the care she needs. I just know your gonna see some improvement in her health sone.

As I stated in your other thread, when a pup, especially a tiny gets vaccinated, it totally takes over their immune system, leaving nothing behind to fight off other infections, and will take 2-4 weeks before it disengages the immune system and allows it to return to normal, where it will begin again to fight off the illness. This is 'why' sick pups and dogs should never be vaccinated until they are in the clear.

Also, the antibodies her immune system produced to fight off the illness could have killed off some of the vaccines she got and her body was not able to respond to the vaccines as expected, leaving her with a low level of protection. You may want to discuss revaccinating her when she is better with your vet.

If this is the same vet that gave her the vaccines in the first place, I would strongly suggest finding a new vet, one that has more experience with vaccines and very small dogs.

JMHO.

I will pray that she makes a speedy recovery....

Sending prayers and hugs for you both, Elaine.

Thank you. I did take her for a second opinion at a specialty vet hospital and I do not take her to the vet that vaccinated her. I had only taken her to him because my regular vet was not in that day and I felt she needed to be seen. Again, no excuse but I was overwhelmed at the visit with eveything he was talking about and it just didn't click when he said he was going to vaccinate her. I KNOW SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE. I also discussed this with my regular vet as well as the other hospital I went to and both said the same. I can't put the tooth paste back in the tube, it was done and I feel terrible about the fact that it could have compromised her. My regular vet put her on another round of antibiotics and we will see how it goes. He has stated that there could be a genetic problem causing this, but at this point she is gaining weight and playing so he feels that we should keep her closely monitored with him and on the antibiotics for two weeks and see how she does. If nothing then he will have Mia referred to the University of Penn. I feel terrible, absolutely terrible and she is with me 24/7. I work a few nights a week so when I'm at work she is with my husband 24/7. Again, I KNOW SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN VACCINATED! And, I'd like to strangle the guy for doing it and myself for not saying anything. I just wasn't thinking at that moment. Both vets have said that they do not feel it caused anything, but I do feel like you that it is at the least prolonging her recovery.

Elaine

Elaine what is done is done dont blame yourself because it may not even be the reason Mia is ill now and its not productive. Just think positively and pray for a good outcome and know others are praying with you and sending positive thoughts

My apologies Elaine... my post explains how the immune system works, and was in no way meant to chastise you further.... in my eyes, you are not at fault, that vet should have known better. And the two that 'do not feel it caused anything', need to go back to school, or are covering their butts or each others' butts.

If this pup were mine, I would email then send blood off to Dr Dodds (Hemopet) in California. She's very reasonable and is one of the best Immunologists in the world...

Thanks and yes I do believe they are covering one of their doctor's butts. I have been so upset over this and today I called the office and asked for the manufacturer of both vaccines and then was able to call one Dodge, and they said what everyone else has said and what I already knew, that they do not reccomend the vaccine on a sick dog. When I pressed them about whether it would make the dog sicker they kind of backed off and just said that if anything the vaccine would be ineffective and would have to be readministered when the pup was better. Can you send me info on Dr. Hobbs? I would really appreciate it. I'm so upset over this baby. I will do whatever I have to do get her through this. I am so afraid I'm going to lose her. I've taken her to three different vets, plus the idiot that gave her the shots, making it four vets in total that have seen her. I have yet another appointment on Monday with another hospital that is very highly reccomended. I've also contacted Redbank Emergency/Specialty hospital but they do not have a pulmonologist. They would have her seen by their internest. On an up note, two vets have now stated that they do not feel the hernias so I guess here are two possibliities to that. Either the vet that originally checked the litter wrote down the wrong dog, possibly the male dog in the litter was the one with the hernias or they by the good grace of God has healed. I am going to have them checked again to be sure, but I not see or feel it. One vet I took her two said bilateral and gave me an estimate of $1100 to repair them, but I don't know maybe and I hate to think this but maybe they looked at as one vet saw them and they can confirm it and possibly invent an operation for the $$. I hate to think that but I just don't know since two others since have not seen or felt them. If you could please give me info on the doctor you mentioned I would appreciate it. I'm at my witts end and will try anything and anyone that may be able to help her. She is eating, playing and gaining weight which is good but she still is coughing and wheezing and it happens more at night and in the early morning if that makes a difference as to what it could be. We have a vaporizor. She's once agian on Clavomox, and on Robitussin for children. Thanks for any help and info.

Elaine

Here is a link to Dr Dodds' website.... Hemopet/Hemolife, HEMOPET a full animal blood bank, Diagnostic Laboratory, Adoption and Consultation

A link about URI in puppies: Managing pneumonia in puppies (Proceedings) - Veterinary Healthcare

Baytril (enroflaxin) and Doxycycline should not be used in puppies as they affect the teeth and joints negatively.

As you stated she's a bit worse at night and in the morning... in other words when and after lying down...maybe the mucous is settling in her lungs... be sure she's getting some exercise. If she becomes
lethargic, you will need to get her admitted ASAP to the vet hospital where she can get IV antibiotics, nebulization, IV fluids, and oxygen if needed.

If the antibiotic she is taking is working, she should continue to get better. If you see her getting worse, lethargic, not eating, producing an increased amount of mucous... do not wait a day or two... get her right back to the vet (preferably a 24 hour vet) to be admitted for supportive treatment.

The Robitussin is a cough suppressant which may not be the best thing... you want her to be able to cough up the mucous, but is also thins the mucous which can help her to clear it. Just don't overdo it....