YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community

YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Yorkshire Terrier Discussion (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/)
-   -   Harness or Collar (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/general-yorkshire-terrier-discussion/212769-harness-collar.html)

dash10 09-15-2010 05:27 PM
Harness or Collar
 
Hi all,

I have been looking for the best forum about yorkies, and I found it here!! So, I was wondering if you can give me some advice. I have been trying to have my puppy get used to walking on a harness. We have a collar as well, but, which one is more suitable/convenient? And how can I get him to start walking? We've tried everything from treats, toys, etc. We have been training him at home....any suggestions??

Thank u!! :)

Roccosmommy 09-15-2010 05:36 PM
Welcome to YT! Without doubt, ONLY a harness should be used to walk your yorkie. Their tracheas are very delicate and could suffer injury from a collar. Puppies take some time to learn being walked, so be patient, he'll get it. Just be sure you keep him close by your side without too much slack on the leash and tell him "good boy" when he walks steady and close by. By the way, how old is he? Any pics?

keokis mom 09-15-2010 05:37 PM
Yorkies have trachea problems so for walking a harness would be better 100 percent. When Keoki was a baby we used this Dog Harness, Dog Training Supplies | Sense-ible and Sense-ation Dog Harness it REALLY helped to teach him how to walk on a leash and I swear by it. I had a trainer come over and help me and she recommended this- he wore it until he was a year old and now he wears a regular harness.

BanditSocks2 09-15-2010 06:08 PM
I would absolutely use a harness:) Two that I have found are very helpful are the Puppia ones and the EZ Walk Harness (best for those pullers!). Good luck with your new puppy and you definately came to the right place. I've learned so much here!

dash10 09-15-2010 07:06 PM
Thanks!! :) He is so tiny! He is about 2lbs he is 3 months old..I will upload pix soon! I'm still familiarizing with the forum and how to post, etc :) Thanks for your suggestion. I will definitely look into getting him a better harness!

dash10 09-15-2010 07:08 PM
Thanks! Yes, I've heard about their trachea issues and how delicate it is. But, can I still use a collar for having his ID tag etc on it?

lovespandp 09-15-2010 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dash10 (Post 3271886)
Thanks! Yes, I've heard about their trachea issues and how delicate it is. But, can I still use a collar for having his ID tag etc on it?
Yes for sure.. i always put pnuts collar on when he goes outside, i use a buddy belt to walk him!!

NAUTILUS1900 09-16-2010 01:45 AM
Always have a colar on your puppy with an ID Tag on it.
Harness is more comfortable for her, but have in mind that she will pull you more because she doesn't feel any resistance.
It's more difficult to learn how to control her with a harness.
Especially if you wan't to train her.
But you will get a hang of it after a wile.
I also have a problem with harness because I keep both my Yorkies with long hair and after our walk they have many small mats wherever the harness touches them.
So always comb them after their walk.

Maria

DvlshAngel985 09-16-2010 02:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 3271949)
Yes for sure.. i always put pnuts collar on when he goes outside, i use a buddy belt to walk him!!
I think you will see that everyone on here will tell you to use a harness to walk your baby. There are so many kinds out there, you will find one that best suits you and your baby's needs. I had to go through quite a few before I found one that didn't chafe Kaji's chest and armpits. He pulls when he's nervous, otherwise he's wonderful on the leash.

Also, I keep his collar on 24/7. It has his id on it with my phone number and a little bell. I learned my lesson and always keep it on. He once walked out of our condo to take himself for a walk and he had no id on him at all! Never ever again will he be sitting in our home without his collar on. I now have the breakaway cat collar kind. In the odd event that he gets himself stuck on something, the collar will just fall off instead of putting any pressure on his little trachea.

lovespandp 09-16-2010 07:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3272022)
I think you will see that everyone on here will tell you to use a harness to walk your baby. There are so many kinds out there, you will find one that best suits you and your baby's needs. I had to go through quite a few before I found one that didn't chafe Kaji's chest and armpits. He pulls when he's nervous, otherwise he's wonderful on the leash.

Also, I keep his collar on 24/7. It has his id on it with my phone number and a little bell. I learned my lesson and always keep it on. He once walked out of our condo to take himself for a walk and he had no id on him at all! Never ever again will he be sitting in our home without his collar on. I now have the breakaway cat collar kind. In the odd event that he gets himself stuck on something, the collar will just fall off instead of putting any pressure on his little trachea.
I use a buddy belt to walk him i love it. I am too nervous to leave a collar on him when i am not there to watch.. i am really paranoid. When dh and i are home he is watched really well.. he doesnt go anywhere without one of us and he doesnt have a chance to escape. I always put the collar on when we are outside,and when we go places..

Sophie12 09-16-2010 09:18 AM
Please, always use only the harness whenever you walk your puppy. I have been walking our Ally since she was 12 weeks old and using a harness. She is now 2 years old and we walk every day. Just take your time and let your Yorkie "sniff" all she wants to. No hurry. You both have plenty of time, enjoy yous walks and smell the roses. Life goes by too fast anyway.

Axion 09-16-2010 09:41 AM
Harness for YT only. They are so fragile and they love to pull and put resistance on the collars. I really like the Puppia brand soft harness.

PuppiaUs.Com !!! has some great soft harnesses.

Buster Brown 09-16-2010 12:46 PM
I tried different harnesses with Buster. I first tried the soft mesh vest type but he did not like putting his head in and out of the hole. Next I tried ones with metal slides on them to adjust the size but they seemed stiff and chafed him. I finally found a company called I see spot. They had really cute X shaped harnesses with velcro closures. They are reversible as well so two looks for one. For Buster one side is black and silver flames and ther other is a shiny silver that I use a night.

DvlshAngel985 09-16-2010 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 3272212)
I use a buddy belt to walk him i love it. I am too nervous to leave a collar on him when i am not there to watch.. i am really paranoid. When dh and i are home he is watched really well.. he doesnt go anywhere without one of us and he doesnt have a chance to escape. I always put the collar on when we are outside,and when we go places..
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that you should do. In fact, I didn't mean to quote you. I understand your paranoia though. Except for me, I'm paranoid that'll he'll be out there all on his own with no ID. I'm afraid he'll walk out on his own like he did that one time. Kaji is usually stuck to me like glue. That unfortunate day he was just bathed, and was completely naked. I thought, why bother with the collar, he never leaves my side. I guess it was late, and I missed his usual potty time because I was doing laundry, my roommate was just moving in and left the door wide open, and Kaji just walked out undetected. He had no bell on, and without it he's super secret ninja yorkie. He's really hard to detect.

That scared me so much that I'll never EVER let him go around the house without his collar on. What if, now that we're living at home with my parents, one of the people at home leave the door wide open and Kaji walks out looking for me while I'm at work? I know my mom is careless and doesn't follow my rules for keeping Kaji safe. I just fear it'll happen again. :(

Britster 09-16-2010 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3272847)

That scared me so much that I'll never EVER let him go around the house without his collar on. What if, now that we're living at home with my parents, one of the people at home leave the door wide open and Kaji walks out looking for me while I'm at work? I know my mom is careless and doesn't follow my rules for keeping Kaji safe. I just fear it'll happen again. :(
This is why I keep a collar on Jackson ALL the time. I live with my mom, stepdad and little young sister who can be careless when it comes to keeping doors closed (and we have a TON of doors in our house, figures!) I don't trust that when I'm NOT here, someone won't accidentally let him outside. Plus, we have a few close family friends and relatives who on occasion will just stop by. When it's just him and I here, the possibility is very very low that he would get outside loose but ya still never know. Anyways, harness always for walks and collar is on for ID :) I will take the collar off him at night sometimes simply for comfort.

DvlshAngel985 09-16-2010 06:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3272875)
This is why I keep a collar on Jackson ALL the time. I live with my mom, stepdad and little young sister who can be careless when it comes to keeping doors closed (and we have a TON of doors in our house, figures!) I don't trust that when I'm NOT here, someone won't accidentally let him outside. Plus, we have a few close family friends and relatives who on occasion will just stop by. When it's just him and I here, the possibility is very very low that he would get outside loose but ya still never know. Anyways, harness always for walks and collar is on for ID :) I will take the collar off him at night sometimes simply for comfort.
My fear is if he walked out on me before when I was sitting right there doing laundry, what are the chances he'll walk out when I'm not there to correct him? :(

lovespandp 09-17-2010 07:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3272847)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that you should do. In fact, I didn't mean to quote you. I understand your paranoia though. Except for me, I'm paranoid that'll he'll be out there all on his own with no ID. I'm afraid he'll walk out on his own like he did that one time. Kaji is usually stuck to me like glue. That unfortunate day he was just bathed, and was completely naked. I thought, why bother with the collar, he never leaves my side. I guess it was late, and I missed his usual potty time because I was doing laundry, my roommate was just moving in and left the door wide open, and Kaji just walked out undetected. He had no bell on, and without it he's super secret ninja yorkie. He's really hard to detect.

That scared me so much that I'll never EVER let him go around the house without his collar on. What if, now that we're living at home with my parents, one of the people at home leave the door wide open and Kaji walks out looking for me while I'm at work? I know my mom is careless and doesn't follow my rules for keeping Kaji safe. I just fear it'll happen again. :(


Ya i understand where you are coming from . I guess i dont stress at home bc it is just dh and myself.. but you never know, i should have a collar on him when he is home but when im gone i jusy stress too much!!

lovespandp 09-17-2010 07:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3272847)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that you should do. In fact, I didn't mean to quote you. I understand your paranoia though. Except for me, I'm paranoid that'll he'll be out there all on his own with no ID. I'm afraid he'll walk out on his own like he did that one time. Kaji is usually stuck to me like glue. That unfortunate day he was just bathed, and was completely naked. I thought, why bother with the collar, he never leaves my side. I guess it was late, and I missed his usual potty time because I was doing laundry, my roommate was just moving in and left the door wide open, and Kaji just walked out undetected. He had no bell on, and without it he's super secret ninja yorkie. He's really hard to detect.

That scared me so much that I'll never EVER let him go around the house without his collar on. What if, now that we're living at home with my parents, one of the people at home leave the door wide open and Kaji walks out looking for me while I'm at work? I know my mom is careless and doesn't follow my rules for keeping Kaji safe. I just fear it'll happen again. :(


Ya i understand where you are coming from . I guess i dont stress at home bc it is just dh and myself.. but you never know, i should have a collar on him when he is home but when im gone i jusy stress too much!!

LeighJ 09-17-2010 03:50 PM
I am also trying to start getting my puppy use to a leash so I can take her to puppy class. Tried her with leash and collar just to get her use to it tonight.....did not even try walking much. Just sat in the yard with her and let her walk around on it, but still, did not go well AT ALL. Major freakout. Will get a harness instead, but as I don't know much about harnesses, do some dogs wear them all the time or just when you take them on a walk? I would like something I could leave on my puppy. She will barely hold still when I put her collar on her, much less having to put a harness on her each time.

LeighJ 09-17-2010 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 3272212)
I am too nervous to leave a collar on him when i am not there to watch.. i am really paranoid.
Me too. I got a collar for my puppy severl weeks ago. She got her stuck in her mouth the other night when I was home. Still on her neck, but pulled up into the corners of her mouth. She went crazy. Could not get it off, was crying like no tomorrow. I am there trying to get it off, but she would not hold still enough for me to get the button. Finally got it off, but I was afraid I was going to break her teeth. The thing wasn't that loose I didn't think. Just loose enough to not be choking her, but somehow she got it stuck. That said, I don't leave it on her when not at home anymore.

keokis mom 09-17-2010 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeighJ (Post 3273794)
Me too. I got a collar for my puppy severl weeks ago. She got her stuck in her mouth the other night when I was home. Still on her neck, but pulled up into the corners of her mouth. She went crazy. Could not get it off, was crying like no tomorrow. I am there trying to get it off, but she would not hold still enough for me to get the button. Finally got it off, but I was afraid I was going to break her teeth. The thing wasn't that loose I didn't think. Just loose enough to not be choking her, but somehow she got it stuck. That said, I don't leave it on her when not at home anymore.
If you are keeping a collar on for id purposes it should be a breakway collar ( cat collar) if pulled it breaks off so you won't have accidents like that. I use the puppia harness for walks- seriously though a cat collar is the only way to go.

DvlshAngel985 09-17-2010 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeighJ (Post 3273794)
Me too. I got a collar for my puppy severl weeks ago. She got her stuck in her mouth the other night when I was home. Still on her neck, but pulled up into the corners of her mouth. She went crazy. Could not get it off, was crying like no tomorrow. I am there trying to get it off, but she would not hold still enough for me to get the button. Finally got it off, but I was afraid I was going to break her teeth. The thing wasn't that loose I didn't think. Just loose enough to not be choking her, but somehow she got it stuck. That said, I don't leave it on her when not at home anymore.
What Keoki's mom said is true, but I also wanted to add that the collar was probably to big for your little one. It should fit snuggly. Not too tight, and definitely not too loose.

LeighJ 09-17-2010 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by keokis mom (Post 3273803)
If you are keeping a collar on for id purposes it should be a breakway collar ( cat collar) if pulled it breaks off so you won't have accidents like that. I use the puppia harness for walks- seriously though a cat collar is the only way to go.
It is a cat collar. Even cut the little bell off. :D I actually thought it was a break away collar as it has just a black slide that you push together. Obviously I should have tugged on it to test it.

beachdog 09-18-2010 03:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeighJ (Post 3273794)
Me too. I got a collar for my puppy severl weeks ago. She got her stuck in her mouth the other night when I was home. Still on her neck, but pulled up into the corners of her mouth. She went crazy. Could not get it off, was crying like no tomorrow. I am there trying to get it off, but she would not hold still enough for me to get the button. Finally got it off, but I was afraid I was going to break her teeth. The thing wasn't that loose I didn't think. Just loose enough to not be choking her, but somehow she got it stuck. That said, I don't leave it on her when not at home anymore.
OMG the same thing happened to Paris when he was little. I came home and there he was covered in slobber from having the darn collar stuck in his mouth for who knows how long. I never keep a collar on him. But the cat collar is a great idea.

lovespandp 09-18-2010 10:33 AM
The reason why I dont like the cat collar idea is bc say they do get out and they get into something and the collar breaks off.. Then the collar would be no good.

zoedo 09-18-2010 11:56 AM
Collar is more convenient but definitely not safe. I use a harness.

lil louis 09-18-2010 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roccosmommy (Post 3271813)
Welcome to YT! Without doubt, ONLY a harness should be used to walk your yorkie. Their tracheas are very delicate and could suffer injury from a collar. Puppies take some time to learn being walked, so be patient, he'll get it. Just be sure you keep him close by your side without too much slack on the leash and tell him "good boy" when he walks steady and close by. By the way, how old is he? Any pics?
Great post!

DvlshAngel985 09-19-2010 07:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 3274272)
The reason why I dont like the cat collar idea is bc say they do get out and they get into something and the collar breaks off.. Then the collar would be no good.
They are surprisingly strong. At least the one Kaji has. I've taken it off him and given it some tugs and it doesn't break off. It takes a little more force for it to fall off. It's a little hard to explain Kaji's collar because it holds up well but in an emergency it just falls right off. Example situation:
Kaji was running around the inside of my car, freaking out because we were in a new place he had never been in. He somehow managed to hang himself on my handbrake! :eek: Before I could react the cat collar just broke apart and Kaji was fine, he landed on the floor by the gas peddals (car was off) and he went right on with his pacing and panicking. It all happened in less than half a second.

I use to think just like you, what's the point if it's just going to fall off? I guess my new way of thinking is, it's just another chance to get him back. The chip is one way, but the tags are quicker. And, in case of any emergencies (like the hanging situation) he's still safe from harm.

lovespandp 09-19-2010 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3274823)
They are surprisingly strong. At least the one Kaji has. I've taken it off him and given it some tugs and it doesn't break off. It takes a little more force for it to fall off. It's a little hard to explain Kaji's collar because it holds up well but in an emergency it just falls right off. Example situation:
Kaji was running around the inside of my car, freaking out because we were in a new place he had never been in. He somehow managed to hang himself on my handbrake! :eek: Before I could react the cat collar just broke apart and Kaji was fine, he landed on the floor by the gas peddals (car was off) and he went right on with his pacing and panicking. It all happened in less than half a second.

I use to think just like you, what's the point if it's just going to fall off? I guess my new way of thinking is, it's just another chance to get him back. The chip is one way, but the tags are quicker. And, in case of any emergencies (like the hanging situation) he's still safe from harm.
Poor guy pnut would have freaked out if that happen to him!! I know if pnut ever gets away from me the chances of getting him back are slim to non!

jennanny3 09-19-2010 12:55 PM
Harness
 
I use a harness with both of my yorkies. 1) Trachea issues and 2) I personally think collars are cruel. Especially with tiny dogs. I wouldn't want to be pulled but something wrapped around my neck. Harness all the way!!


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:28 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168