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celstu1 09-14-2010 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dwells1959 (Post 3270124)
We're so stupid, we didn't take her to the vet as the breeder had just had her in for her first round of shots. Surely, the breeder's vet would have mentioned it to her if he examined the pup as it probably was there from birth...i don't know...this is our first puppy. She was 8 weeks old when we got her.
My breeder never told me about the murmur and I got paperwork from her vet with a clean bill of health from both dogs and their first round of vacs. Luckily I took them in 3 weeks after I got them for their second puppy round and that is when my vet found it and told me. I almost called the breeder but at that point they were probably better off with me and I kept them. My vet said there was NO WAY ANY vet would have missed the murmur he had! :(

furbutt 09-14-2010 10:12 AM
Aw this breaks my heart. I am so sorry that this is happening to you and your little furbaby. I cant give you any advice but my thoughts are with you xxx

dwells1959 09-14-2010 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3270435)
My breeder never told me about the murmur and I got paperwork from her vet with a clean bill of health from both dogs and their first round of vacs. Luckily I took them in 3 weeks after I got them for their second puppy round and that is when my vet found it and told me. I almost called the breeder but at that point they were probably better off with me and I kept them. My vet said there was NO WAY ANY vet would have missed the murmur he had! :(
I have contacted the breeder and she is so sorry about this and feels awful. She said she had no idea of this. She volunteered a full refund which I'll take her up on. The money back won't fix our little Harlie but will help with her diagnostics. I have a call into the clinic and am expecting the doctor to call back any time now.

dwells1959 09-14-2010 10:51 AM
Duh, I'm soooo sorry celstu1. How is the baby with the murmur? Is he ok? Is he on medication?

Don

celstu1 09-14-2010 10:54 AM
Hey! I have 2 boys, same age, same litter, same breeder. I took home 2 boys from the same litter, almost 5 years ago! My boys are just over 5 years old. Only 1 had a murmur. I have no idea what grade though. It took a year to close and he was carefully monitored by the vet during the year. It did close on it's own though. I will pray that your Harlie's closes on it's own also! I just know the waiting and anxiety and sadness you feel while you are waiting for it to either close or not. It's awful! Its always on your mind. Luckily once it closes it's closed for good and she's good as new! :) (or i should say better than new!)

Rhetts_mama 09-14-2010 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dwells1959 (Post 3270484)
I have contacted the breeder and she is so sorry about this and feels awful. She said she had no idea of this. She volunteered a full refund which I'll take her up on. The money back won't fix our little Harlie but will help with her diagnostics. I have a call into the clinic and am expecting the doctor to call back any time now.

I'm glad the breeder is willing to work with you. :thumbup: Hopefully this will turn out to be something mild and easily treatable.

PANAMA69 09-14-2010 11:07 AM
Sorry about your pup, is always nice to get a second opinion or even a third:animal-pa

dwells1959 09-14-2010 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3270500)
Hey! I have 2 boys, same age, same litter, same breeder. I took home 2 boys from the same litter, almost 5 years ago! My boys are just over 5 years old. Only 1 had a murmur. I have no idea what grade though. It took a year to close and he was carefully monitored by the vet during the year. It did close on it's own though. I will pray that your Harlie's closes on it's own also! I just know the waiting and anxiety and sadness you feel while you are waiting for it to either close or not. It's awful! Its always on your mind. Luckily once it closes it's closed for good and she's good as new! :) (or i should say better than new!)
Thank you, thank you! That makes me feel better knowing that! I'm praying for something like this to happen for us...

AllDogBoots 09-14-2010 01:54 PM
I'm sorry you have to go through this. I wish you strength and positive thoughts. Positivity helped me through an issue I had recently with my Max.

dwells1959 09-15-2010 08:02 AM
I want to thank you all for your thoughts and wishes. We went to visit the clinic yesterday evening and got a chance to really talk to the doctor. We have the ultrasound for next Wednesday to see what's going on inside this little girl. The procedure is a little expensive, thank goodness I insured her when we first got her. We were told that anesthesia for things like her spaying and yearly professional teeth cleaning would be a major issue with a heart defect which was kinda depressing but hey, we'll take one step at a time. I'll let you how it turns out,

Best to All,

Don

Ladymom 09-15-2010 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dwells1959 (Post 3271328)
I want to thank you all for your thoughts and wishes. We went to visit the clinic yesterday evening and got a chance to really talk to the doctor. We have the ultrasound for next Wednesday to see what's going on inside this little girl. The procedure is a little expensive, thank goodness I insured her when we first got her. We were told that anesthesia for things like her spaying and yearly professional teeth cleaning would be a major issue with a heart defect which was kinda depressing but hey, we'll take one step at a time. I'll let you how it turns out,

Best to All,

Don
I'm glad you've got an appointment set up.

Have you checked with your insurance company? I don't think most cover congenital conditions.

dwells1959 09-15-2010 08:34 AM
Yes, thanks for asking, I bought the Petplan Gold policy and it covers congenital defects as long as there were no symptoms prior to the effective date. She still as no symptoms and seems normal to us.

BonBon 09-15-2010 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dwells1959 (Post 3271355)
Yes, thanks for asking, I bought the Petplan Gold policy and it covers congenital defects as long as there were no symptoms prior to the effective date. She still as no symptoms and seems normal to us.
I'm sorry your little girl is having these problems. Thank goodness you got insurance. I really hope it will cover her in this circumstance.

May I ask how long you've had her? Petplan has a two week waiting period after enrollment before it becomes effective. I read she's only 11 weeks old now, and most insurances won't cover puppies much younger than that.

While she may not be showing symptoms yet, she has been diagnosed with a heart murmer, correct? This information will be shown in your vet records which are available to the insurance company.

Best wishes,
Bonny

dwells1959 09-16-2010 05:03 AM
Hi Bonny,

She's actually 12 weeks now. I enrolled her on the 24th last month so we are just outside the waiting period. They didn't say anything about her age and had no problem taking my money very qickly, I think we're good to go. I have submitted a pre-qual claim for the procedure just to be sure but haven't heard back yet. Not any symtoms yet but the doctor said it's loud.

Thanks,

Don

BonBon 09-16-2010 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dwells1959 (Post 3272081)
Hi Bonny,

She's actually 12 weeks now. I enrolled her on the 24th last month so we are just outside the waiting period. They didn't say anything about her age and had no problem taking my money very qickly, I think we're good to go. I have submitted a pre-qual claim for the procedure just to be sure but haven't heard back yet. Not any symtoms yet but the doctor said it's loud.

Thanks,

Don
That is great news!! Petplan is supposed to be a very good company, I'm sure you won't have any problems. :)


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