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Roccosmommy 08-12-2010 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3236566)
I concur with yelping and crating if it persists- they don't have to go in the crate long, a minute or two will suffice just so they know that a bite means playtime ends. Now, sometimes when you go to take them out, they will bite again just because they are frustrated- put them back in the crate right away. They are such social animals that they will catch on quickly.
:thumbup: Agree completely. Also be sure that when you place her in timeout, it's done quietly and calmly. When she is removed from her "timeout", don't look at or speak to her...start from the beginning, fresh start.

Rachael x 08-12-2010 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Roccosmommy (Post 3236613)
:thumbup: Agree completely. Also be sure that when you place her in timeout, it's done quietly and calmly. When she is removed from her "timeout", don't look at or speak to her...start from the beginning, fresh start.
Will do :thumbup: Thanks for the advice.

AmyBeth 08-12-2010 07:16 AM
My sister had a great tip that she used on her papimo. She didn't want to use the crate for "time outs" when it came to biting because she didn't want her pup to associate being in the crate with being in trouble. She wanted the crate to be a positive experience, not a bad one. So, whenever she was playing with her puppy, she would make sure she had a laundry basket nearby. If puppy bit, my sister would yelp NO and immediately put the laundry basket upside down over the puppy and turn her back away from him or even walk away. she would wait about a minute and then return to playing. She said it worked absolute wonders because puppy associated biting with a quick end to the fun and being under the basket. I plan on using this method too. Hope that helps. :)

LunasMomma 08-12-2010 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AmyBeth (Post 3236670)
My sister had a great tip that she used on her papimo. She didn't want to use the crate for "time outs" when it came to biting because she didn't want her pup to associate being in the crate with being in trouble. She wanted the crate to be a positive experience, not a bad one. So, whenever she was playing with her puppy, she would make sure she had a laundry basket nearby. If puppy bit, my sister would yelp NO and immediately put the laundry basket upside down over the puppy and turn her back away from him or even walk away. she would wait about a minute and then return to playing. She said it worked absolute wonders because puppy associated biting with a quick end to the fun and being under the basket. I plan on using this method too. Hope that helps. :)
That is genius!!! It really does sound like a good method---the pup is safe, your hands/feet/face are safe, and the pup can still see you (to see how you don't like biting). I think this is a winner for sure:thumbup:

Rachael x 08-12-2010 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AmyBeth (Post 3236670)
My sister had a great tip that she used on her papimo. She didn't want to use the crate for "time outs" when it came to biting because she didn't want her pup to associate being in the crate with being in trouble. She wanted the crate to be a positive experience, not a bad one. So, whenever she was playing with her puppy, she would make sure she had a laundry basket nearby. If puppy bit, my sister would yelp NO and immediately put the laundry basket upside down over the puppy and turn her back away from him or even walk away. she would wait about a minute and then return to playing. She said it worked absolute wonders because puppy associated biting with a quick end to the fun and being under the basket. I plan on using this method too. Hope that helps. :)
Thats a great idea! I will try that out. :p
Thank you!

deonk1 08-12-2010 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AmyBeth (Post 3236670)
My sister had a great tip that she used on her papimo. She didn't want to use the crate for "time outs" when it came to biting because she didn't want her pup to associate being in the crate with being in trouble. She wanted the crate to be a positive experience, not a bad one. So, whenever she was playing with her puppy, she would make sure she had a laundry basket nearby. If puppy bit, my sister would yelp NO and immediately put the laundry basket upside down over the puppy and turn her back away from him or even walk away. she would wait about a minute and then return to playing. She said it worked absolute wonders because puppy associated biting with a quick end to the fun and being under the basket. I plan on using this method too. Hope that helps. :)
:thumbup: I think this might just be the winner! Goodluck I hope it works. I'll have to remember that if Harley needs timeout in the future.

Rachael x 08-12-2010 08:16 AM
Thanks to everyone who gave advice and wished me luck! :aimeeyork:heart to

lisaly 08-12-2010 10:09 AM
I think the laundry basket idea sounds great also. With regard to the Bitter Apple, when Poppy is biting you can spray a tiny bit of the Bitter Apple in her mouth. I think if you did that a couple of times, she would learn very quickly. It sounds horrible, and I think I'd have a hard time doing it, but I don't think it could hurt her. My father and his wife rescued a long haired dachsund when they were vacationing in Mexico last year. They already had two fox terrier rescues, who are really challenging to train because they are true terriers. They were having trouble with jumping and barking with all three, so they hired a trainer. My father's wife is a huge animal lover and is involved in rescue. I know she'd never do anything to harm an animal and would only use a compassionate trainer. This solution worked very quickly. The trainer said Bitter Yuck works better than Bitter Apple. When they jumped or barked uncontrollably, they sprayed a small bit in the dog's mouth. I know I used Bitter Apple many years ago when my babies were puppies. It took Ashley longer than Kiwi and Gracie, but she kept taking the moss out of the silk trees that I had in my house. After the third time of jumping and grabbing the moss, she stopped because she hated the taste with the Bitter Apple. I would check with Poppy's doctor to make sure it couldn't harm her because of her size, but it might be an option. I hate punitive measures and prefer positive reinforcement, but this may solve the problem very quickly without doing something that could be scary for her. I know you'd never do anything to hurt Poppy, but I remember trying the method of shaking pennies in a can with my dogs to get them to stop a behavior. I wouldn't ever do that again because it just scared them and didn't work. I guess you can tell I'm a big softy, but I also know that you can't allow Poppy to keep on biting. She is absolutely gorgeous, and I know you love her. With an adorable face like hers, it must be very hard to resist anything she does.

furbutt 08-12-2010 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by John Stelting (Post 3236474)
Maybe I wasn't wrong after all.

HAHA If your gonna make your nasty remarks atleast get the right dog... you must feel really stupid

furbutt 08-12-2010 10:38 AM
Hope your little Poppy stops the biting soon hun. She is a little angel i am sure you will get it sorted. Good luck xxxx

paris pancake 08-12-2010 10:41 AM
Okay some people may not like this tactic but it worked for us. I had a bitter and younger children who were not doing anything wrong she would just bite and hang on. I was so frustrated so after trying all of the above suggestions someone told me to squirt her with water from a distance so she would not know where it was coming from, so she would just think that when she bite she would get squirted. so that is what we did. IT WORKED great. It did not hurt her. Funny she figured out it was coming from the squirt bottle now if I tell her no and she is not listening all I have to do it bring out the bottle and she stops. This would not be my first choice but if you are running out of options this does not hurt and they get it quickly

Rhetts_mama 08-12-2010 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by paris pancake (Post 3236920)
Okay some people may not like this tactic but it worked for us. I had a bitter and younger children who were not doing anything wrong she would just bite and hang on. I was so frustrated so after trying all of the above suggestions someone told me to squirt her with water from a distance so she would not know where it was coming from, so she would just think that when she bite she would get squirted. so that is what we did. IT WORKED great. It did not hurt her. Funny she figured out it was coming from the squirt bottle now if I tell her no and she is not listening all I have to do it bring out the bottle and she stops. This would not be my first choice but if you are running out of options this does not hurt and they get it quickly
One of my trainers recommended that, too. The only problem I found with my doxie is that he was smart enough to look around for the squirt bottle before he did something he knew he wasn't supposed to be doing :cool:

furbutt 08-12-2010 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3236936)
One of my trainers recommended that, too. The only problem I found with my doxie is that he was smart enough to look around for the squirt bottle before he did something he knew he wasn't supposed to be doing :cool:

This made me giggle. Hehe they are so clever :D xxx

MyBabyFynnlie 08-12-2010 11:44 AM
I'm having the same issue with Fynnlie. He plays hard and bites hard. We 'YIP' at him and he stops for a while. Also, when he's playing and biting, he starts humping! He's 10 weeks old and I know that it's really young, but the breeder had some health issues (She got a STAPH infection in her back) and we had to pick him up sooner. He'll bite and play and bite some more. We'll 'YIP!' and he'll stop and then he'll start again or start humping! I dunno what to do. We start puppy classes tonight.

lisaly 08-12-2010 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie (Post 3236983)
I'm having the same issue with Fynnlie. He plays hard and bites hard. We 'YIP' at him and he stops for a while. Also, when he's playing and biting, he starts humping! He's 10 weeks old and I know that it's really young, but the breeder had some health issues (She got a STAPH infection in her back) and we had to pick him up sooner. He'll bite and play and bite some more. We'll 'YIP!' and he'll stop and then he'll start again or start humping! I dunno what to do. We start puppy classes tonight.
I think the humping thing, especially since it's correlated to this, is Fynnlie trying to tell you he is the boss. It's probably a dominance thing, and females do it also sometimes. I never went to puppy classes, but it sounds like fun and you'll probably learn a lot, too.

Rachael x 08-13-2010 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lisaly (Post 3236891)
I think the laundry basket idea sounds great also. With regard to the Bitter Apple, when Poppy is biting you can spray a tiny bit of the Bitter Apple in her mouth. I think if you did that a couple of times, she would learn very quickly. It sounds horrible, and I think I'd have a hard time doing it, but I don't think it could hurt her. My father and his wife rescued a long haired dachsund when they were vacationing in Mexico last year. They already had two fox terrier rescues, who are really challenging to train because they are true terriers. They were having trouble with jumping and barking with all three, so they hired a trainer. My father's wife is a huge animal lover and is involved in rescue. I know she'd never do anything to harm an animal and would only use a compassionate trainer. This solution worked very quickly. The trainer said Bitter Yuck works better than Bitter Apple. When they jumped or barked uncontrollably, they sprayed a small bit in the dog's mouth. I know I used Bitter Apple many years ago when my babies were puppies. It took Ashley longer than Kiwi and Gracie, but she kept taking the moss out of the silk trees that I had in my house. After the third time of jumping and grabbing the moss, she stopped because she hated the taste with the Bitter Apple. I would check with Poppy's doctor to make sure it couldn't harm her because of her size, but it might be an option. I hate punitive measures and prefer positive reinforcement, but this may solve the problem very quickly without doing something that could be scary for her. I know you'd never do anything to hurt Poppy, but I remember trying the method of shaking pennies in a can with my dogs to get them to stop a behavior. I wouldn't ever do that again because it just scared them and didn't work. I guess you can tell I'm a big softy, but I also know that you can't allow Poppy to keep on biting. She is absolutely gorgeous, and I know you love her. With an adorable face like hers, it must be very hard to resist anything she does.
Thank you :) I will get some bitter apple spray at the weekend and give it a go :thumbup:

Rachael x 08-13-2010 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by furbutt (Post 3236916)
Hope your little Poppy stops the biting soon hun. She is a little angel i am sure you will get it sorted. Good luck xxxx
Thank you :p

Rachael x 08-13-2010 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paris pancake (Post 3236920)
Okay some people may not like this tactic but it worked for us. I had a bitter and younger children who were not doing anything wrong she would just bite and hang on. I was so frustrated so after trying all of the above suggestions someone told me to squirt her with water from a distance so she would not know where it was coming from, so she would just think that when she bite she would get squirted. so that is what we did. IT WORKED great. It did not hurt her. Funny she figured out it was coming from the squirt bottle now if I tell her no and she is not listening all I have to do it bring out the bottle and she stops. This would not be my first choice but if you are running out of options this does not hurt and they get it quickly
We tried that... didnt work because Poppy jus LOVED being squirted. :(
In the end she was being so naughty we were drying her 10 times a day LOL.. even when I shouted NO! and squirted her she would jump up into the air and catch the water in her mouth... :rolleyes:

lisaly 08-13-2010 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rachael x (Post 3237645)
We tried that... didnt work because Poppy jus LOVED being squirted. :(
In the end she was being so naughty we were drying her 10 times a day LOL.. even when I shouted NO! and squirted her she would jump up into the air and catch the water in her mouth... :rolleyes:
This made me laugh. It sounds like everything is a game to Poppy. I'm sure it's frustrating for you, but she sounds so adorable.

Rachael x 08-13-2010 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lisaly (Post 3237670)
This made me laugh. It sounds like everything is a game to Poppy. I'm sure it's frustrating for you, but she sounds so adorable.
LOL thank you, she's a playful little thing I'll give her that. :rolleyes:


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