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Silky Puppy vs Yorkie Puppy how can you tell? Silky puppy vs Yorkie puppy how can you tell the difference? Can you? I know once the puppy gets bigger you can tell differences as far as their snout, nose, eyes ears, length and wt but can you tell with a brand new puppy characteristic differences?:confused:I have a almost two year old Yorkie or what I thought was a Yorkie and now finding out she is likely a silky and not a Yorkie all her paperwork and certification says Yorkie but she is definitely a silky from what I've read online.I am mad and wonder if at this point I can sue the breeder who sold her to me for my money back.Has anyone else ran into this before? Now she is pregnant and the father is a Yorkie the puppies are due to arrive in three weeks I plan on keeping a puppy from the litter but I want it to be a Yorkie how can I tell that I will be getting a Yorkie and not a silky or will all the puppies still be a mix? Please HELP! I need advice....:(I am so frustrated that I paid so much for a dog that I thought and was told was a Yorkie gerrr!!!!:mad::eek: |
sorry I am sure you are upset, but it is often hard to tell them apart due to genetic differences between 1 puppy and another even in the same litter. |
Are you sure its not just a yorkie not bred to the standard. Ive had people say my male is a silky too because hes bigger and has some silky characteristics but I know hes a yorkie. I think that is very common and its highly unlikely that a breeder sold you a silky and told you it was a yorkie |
After two years I doubt you could sue the breeder. The first flag for me on buying was that the puppy was CKC registered and not AKC (from one of your previous posts where you stated that the registration was with Continental Kennel Club) |
If the paper says your dog is a yorkie, it's a yorkie, especially if you got it from a reliable registry, such as the AKC, and even then the registry is no better than the breeder. Breeds are manmade things, and the word silky or yorkie has a certain meaning but not every purebred dog is a great example of the breed. Many people breed whatever dogs they have, and without selective breeding for certain qualities a purebred will look like a mutt in a few generations, but it is still a "purebred." There are genetics tests that can tell if your dog is mostly yorkie, but they are not 100% accurate. I'm more concerned with people breeding for the wrong reasons. We have too many pets available now, and the only breeding that should be done is to preserve, protect, and improve the breed. Unless your dog is a wonderful example of the breed, you shouldn't be breeding. People seem to think every "masculine" looking yorkie is a silky, but Silky's aren't really that common in the States, they are more prevalent in Australia. So just because a yorkie has a longer nose, or doesn't grow coat very well, it does not make them a Silky. Bottom line, is if your dog isn't a great example of the breed, you shouldn't breed, no matter what the registry says of it's bloodline. |
If indeed you have a silky, then all pups she carries will be silky mixes. There's just no way around genetics. Which registry are her papers through? If it's AKC, you should have a pretty good lineage on her (assuming it wasn't falsified). With CKC, it's a crap shoot IMO, since they have very loose standards on what it takes to prove you have a "purebred" anything. As Chachi said, it's possible that you have a full bred yorkie, but one who just wasn't bred properly to breed standard. If you are really concerned, ask your vet about DNA testing, but don't buy the ones from online or Petsmart. If you are to have any standing in a court case, you will need an official one done. Then comes the next matter. If she is a silky or a mix, then you would have to prove the breeder KNOWINGLY deceived you. That's pretty hard to do. Then you have to look at whether or not you would even be eligible under the laws of your state to sue. In the end, suing may end up costing you a whole lot more money than you could possibly be eligible to recover. But because you have questions about her lineage, it's now imcumbent on you to not try and pass the puppies off to new buyers as full yorkies. Otherwise, you could very well find your self on the other side of the courtroom aisle in a couple of years. |
Years ago, I had an AKC registered Yorkie, but I always thought that she looked more like a silky. She was my first Yorkie and I didn't investigate the way I would now because I bought her from a pet home in 1990. Well, years later just for the hell of it my vet did a dna test on her because he always thought that if she wasn't 1/2 Silkie then she might be full and what do you know, she was 100% Silkie sold as an AKC Yorkie!! The "breeder" could have had a friend that had AKC registered Yorkies that was willing to list her dogs as the true parents of my dog, who knows, they just can sell Yorkies for more than Silkies so that is why they do it. When there is a will there is a way and some people don't care about committing fraud!! Buyer beware!! |
Gerr it so frustration the hardest part is I actually think she is Yorkie and silky mix so as a puppy I could not tell. I was looking at photos and trying to compare Yorkie and silky puppies all day and I really cannot tell.She is only approx. 7 lbs(currently with 3 weeks to go in her pregnancy she weighs 8lbs 3oz.) but definitely has a very long body, longer snout, bigger nose, and her fur doesn't touch the floor close but definitely not the same coat as a Yorkie. I am hoping to be able to pick a puppy out of the litter when she has then that will be smaller full grown and have a more teddy bear face.I will post pictures on here when they arrive and hopefully everyone can tell me which one I should pick. Thanks for trying to make me feel better!!!! |
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@yorkiechick1 Wow! How much did you pay for that DNA test, if you don't mind me asking? Because I've had 5 reputable Silky breeders tell me they are almost 100% sure Jackson is a Silky, but I've had others on dog forums tell me he's just a badly bred Yorkie. Obviously, either way I don't care, and they are all technically related (Australian Terrier, Yorkie, Silky). I'm just curious. Jackson was from a BYB who probably didn't even know what her dogs were. No papers or anything. Here's good comparisons: Home of the Gorgeous Silky Terrier!! - Compare the silky to.... Jackson has the body shape of the show Silky's I see, the snout, the face, the temperament from what I've read, everything! So I don't know, either. He's just a great pet. :) |
We would like to use he as both our pet and and breeding that's why we would never get rid of her now she is a part of the family. |
I think she is Yorkie and silky mix. |
Oh yeah he does look a lot like a silky |
You're dog may or may not be pure bred. However, this is where having an AKC pedigreed dog would have helped you, even though you said it wasn't important at the time. |
My Moka, in my avatar, is supposed to be a Silky (Not Akc, of course), compared to Brister's Jackson, there are a lot of differences. Moka is not the color of a Silky and not the size. But I give her credit, she does have the Silky ears! I sure do love her what ever she is..... |
So now that you have you own doubts as to her true lineage, I truly hope you have given up your previous plan to try and fake AKC papers for these pups. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...tion-help.html If you pursue this, you will be committing fraud. |
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Oh - I see from your previous thread you are desperate and need money, which is the reason for needing advice on defrauding. |
I actually now think she might be but like someone said a badly breed yorkie. |
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A reputable breeder does NOT breed a dog that is poorly bred and especially when you aren't even sure if she's pure bred or a mix! If you want to breed, then you should take the advice of reputable breeders on YT. Do research, find a mentor and go from there! The world is already full of mixed breeds and poorly bred dogs, shelters are full of them. |
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As Reese said, there are more than enough poorly bred yorkies out there. You aren't doing anything to better the breed by bringing more pups in to the world. Please tell us that you at least did all the requisite health testing on both the dam and sire prior to the mating. Tell us that you had them both tested for liver problems, you had their knees and hips certified... There is so much more to breeding than throwing two dogs together. |
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Well said :thumbup::thumbup: |
If your yorkie is a poor example of the breed it shouldnt be bred. There are too many out of standard yorkies already |
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I took her to our vet's office and had her DNA tested and had ex-rays done to see how many puppies she was going to have and found she is truly a pure breed Yorkie so I guess I let my worries get the best of me. |
I had already given up on that It doesn't matter to me anymore whether she is AKC or CKC and it seems that people just keep harping on it! Let it go! |
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