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red98vett 05-06-2010 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by vbayne (Post 3114487)
Can someone please tell me why it is necessary to keep my puppies confined in a crate 8 hours a day in order to housebreak them?? My babies have done nothing except cry for 2 days and it is killing me!!!

:(:( that's an awfully long time to be crated - do you have other options ? I didn't read all the responses but I personally couldn;t do it - hope you got some better suggestions !! And good luck.......

my youngest cried loud in her playpen and I caved - I couldn't bear the crying but things worked out - she eventually learned and while it took a long time - she was happier not being in a playpen and so was I

StacyDufner 05-06-2010 07:01 AM

I hope today is better for you.

HarleyHOO 05-06-2010 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vbayne (Post 3114487)
Can someone please tell me why it is necessary to keep my puppies confined in a crate 8 hours a day in order to housebreak them?? My babies have done nothing except cry for 2 days and it is killing me!!!

Wow...this is funny to me only because for the first 3 months after I got Harley, "the warden" was what my family called me! No kidding... Haha... Although I was a tough mama, it totally paid off in the end. She was fully potty trained in 5 months and now at 1 year old, she has complete run of the house when I'm at work and is a complete doll baby. I agree that there are alternatives to crate training, but what works for one dog may not work for another. For us, crate training was the best method and I don't regret one second of it. Good luck in whatever you choose...

MomofSkye 05-06-2010 07:13 AM

I could never do it, I have never had a problem house breaking any of my pups and i've had Labs,Husky,Great Dane,Papillon,and now the Yorkies. They sleep in the bed with us from the night they come home. I lay them next to me(just as some people do with babies) and every time they move they go out to potty.

We do that for about a week and then i'll let them "move" but watch them and if there just getting comfy then i'll move my leg/arm to touch them.

We have had the Yorkies(well 2 of them) a week today. There both doing pretty good Raider(my pup 7weeks) woke me up at 5am to go potty he pooped as soon as he got out there. The 11 week old that I just got on Monday is pretty much house broken already.


I understand if you have to work mine come to work with me.I like the confining to a small area over a crate if you have one.

I do have a crate it's open to them to go in and out here at the office to use for a bed. I have a carrier(for the 2 smaller ones) and that is what they perfer to sleep in its under my desk. Pheobe(the 11w old) has a bed under DH's desk.

vbayne 05-06-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HarleyHOO (Post 3117230)
Wow...this is funny to me only because for the first 3 months after I got Harley, "the warden" was what my family called me! No kidding... Haha... Although I was a tough mama, it totally paid off in the end. She was fully potty trained in 5 months and now at 1 year old, she has complete run of the house when I'm at work and is a complete doll baby. I agree that there are alternatives to crate training, but what works for one dog may not work for another. For us, crate training was the best method and I don't regret one second of it. Good luck in whatever you choose...

It took 5 months to train her??

vbayne 05-06-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MomofSkye (Post 3117234)
I could never do it, I have never had a problem house breaking any of my pups and i've had Labs,Husky,Great Dane,Papillon,and now the Yorkies. They sleep in the bed with us from the night they come home. I lay them next to me(just as some people do with babies) and every time they move they go out to potty.

We do that for about a week and then i'll let them "move" but watch them and if there just getting comfy then i'll move my leg/arm to touch them.

We have had the Yorkies(well 2 of them) a week today. There both doing pretty good Raider(my pup 7weeks) woke me up at 5am to go potty he pooped as soon as he got out there. The 11 week old that I just got on Monday is pretty much house broken already.


I understand if you have to work mine come to work with me.I like the confining to a small area over a crate if you have one.

I do have a crate it's open to them to go in and out here at the office to use for a bed. I have a carrier(for the 2 smaller ones) and that is what they perfer to sleep in its under my desk. Pheobe(the 11w old) has a bed under DH's desk.


So how do you handle the day time?

I have changed from the pack n play to the laundry room which has a baby gate. They seemed much happier. But when I took them outside after being confined 3 hours, they did their business pretty quickly except Gabby waited until she was inside to poop.

vbayne 05-07-2010 04:38 PM

I think I need to clarify - I don't put them in the playpen for 8 1/2 hours straight. They are confined 2 1/2 hrs, then free time, back to playpen for 4 hours etc. Each day they get a little better. yea!!!

JenaLiat 07-09-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 3114713)
i don't know what the book says that your reading but i was very strict with Morgan when she was a baby. She had a crate and an ex-pen. The crate was for when i was at work or when we were sleeping. the expen was for when i was home but couldn't watch her for whatever reason. She was on a strict food/potty/play schedule. First thing in the morning when i woke up i took her outside. When we came back in it was breakfast time. I fed her in her ex-pen and then left her in there for 15-20 minutes. After that time period we went outside again to potty. I always took her out on a leash so she knew we were on a mission instead of a play date. I took her to one area, said go potty, and then waited for her to do her stuff. I'd stand there for as long as it took, sometimes 30 minutes in the pouring rain, but we did it (with the aid of an umbrella). After she did her business she was allowed 30-60 minutes free roam play time. After a rigorous play she'd need to go back outside to pee usually. Then i'd put her in her pen for a nap. when she woke up it was back outside, then play or eat, depending on the time. that how the day went until bed time. i'd take her out right before i went to sleep and she'd sleep a good amount of time. Usually she'd wake me up at 4-5am to potty. I'd take her out for a quick potty without really talking to her (besides go potty and good girl) or getting her excited. After she pottied it was back in her crate to sleep some more. Then when i woke up we'd start the whole process all over again.

after a while i eliminated the crate and she'd sleep in her ex-pen. I only eliminated the crate when she was able to hold it all night long and not mess in her crate when i was at work. I used the ex-pen for at least a year and a half when i was out and at night time. Eventually i took the ex-pen down and put her crate back out. Now she has her crate/den available to her whenever she wants and she has free reign when i'm not home. she's 100% potty trained and only very rarely has an accident when she's sick.

We are doing a strict schedule like that and I was wondering how long it took to get Morgan house trained? We are about 4 days into the really really strict schedule where she is in her crate even when we are home at night.

Mom to Hot Rod 07-09-2010 12:04 PM

It will take time and it sounds like they may be on their way to figuring it out. Do you praise and/or treat when they do potty in the correct place? Also, you should choose 1 phrase for potty so when you use it, they will know what it means. while training, do no say the phrase until they are in the actual act then repeat it several times. Keep doing this so they will learn the phrase.

Our phrase is "do your stuff". Also, in addition to what the others have said, you should look for the signs that your little ones have for needing to potty. You need to be diligent and quick. If you wait for them to show you by squatting, it will be too late as by that time,they are pretty much finished,lol. Look for signs of circling or sniffing or anything like this behaviour and immediate take them out/put on puppy pad and use the phrase--once they have learned it.

If they do not go after 20 minutes, bring them back in and still watch for the signs and take them back out again, so on and so on.

Maggie is 2 years old and will still sometimes come back from our walks and potty on the pad. I don't get upset as she runs over to it so she has the pottying thing down after all. :) Best of luck.

JenaLiat 07-09-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod (Post 3192908)
It will take time and it sounds like they may be on their way to figuring it out. Do you praise and/or treat when they do potty in the correct place? Also, you should choose 1 phrase for potty so when you use it, they will know what it means. while training, do no say the phrase until they are in the actual act then repeat it several times. Keep doing this so they will learn the phrase.

Our phrase is "do your stuff". Also, in addition to what the others have said, you should look for the signs that your little ones have for needing to potty. You need to be diligent and quick. If you wait for them to show you by squatting, it will be too late as by that time,they are pretty much finished,lol. Look for signs of circling or sniffing or anything like this behaviour and immediate take them out/put on puppy pad and use the phrase--once they have learned it.

If they do not go after 20 minutes, bring them back in and still watch for the signs and take them back out again, so on and so on.

Maggie is 2 years old and will still sometimes come back from our walks and potty on the pad. I don't get upset as she runs over to it so she has the pottying thing down after all. :) Best of luck.

We do praise her a TON! We started with treats but realized that made her potty unpredictable! I sat let's go potty every time we go out and while she is sniffing around. After she goes I tell her good girl and love on her. Right now she only has trouble at night..like I mentioned before I think it is out of spite for being in her crate while her dad is home! I am off for the summer (I teach) and when her dad is home she goes NUTSSSS!!! I hope it gets better! Thanks for the support!

Jenny Conine 07-09-2010 12:51 PM

I've been potty training my 5 month old with the food/play/potty routine and I still have to watch him like a hawk. I haven't gotten an expen because with all my 10 month old sons toys there is no room. I found if I put a loud windup clock next to his crate with a t-shirt or towel with my sent on it inside the crate he doesn't bark or whine. I wasn't able to get him house broken in the 7 days like the book, but he is doing alot better now. Good Luck
:aimeeyorkSambo & Jenny

boo-boo 07-09-2010 02:33 PM

I never really understood using a crate or confining a dog to a small space to house train. I never did that with Boo. What I did was take him out at very regular intervals, starting with every hour. Then when he would go I would make a big fuss and give him a treat. Then over time I increased the amount of time before going out. Eventually he would come get me when he needed to go. It only took about a week and a half and he has not gone in the house since then. Of course there were accidents in the beginning, but I just took that as part of having a puppy, it's small and cleans up pretty easily. You also have to keep a close eye on him, and if you can catch him trying to go inside you can tell him no and take him out immediately. Also, when he did have accidents i would carry him over to where he went, make him sniff it, so that he knew what it was, and then take him right out. Eventually they learn that you have to do that outside.

bamawife 07-09-2010 03:35 PM

Good luck and hang in there. Like someone else mentioned, crate training is not the choice for everyone. It is the BEST THING I have ever done in my house, though. The first 2 nights we had Raley he was in our lap or playing...and slept with us. On the 3rd night I began placing him in his kennel. I had it beside our bed. When he would whine I would get up and place him on his pee pad (which is still in its designated place). I would say "go potty". I would praise him and love on him and then back to his kennel he went. After about 3 nights of doing this he began holding it for about 6 hours. He now holds it for 8. I do not regret training him this way. For us it has been the best decision! We live on a fairly busy street so I do not take him outside to go potty. He always uses a pee pad. He has not had any accidents in a few months. When we are traveling he rides in his kennel. He does not like being in a car without it. We always stop and allow him potty breaks and he does great!

Keep your chin up. Persistence is the key!:)

paris pancake 07-09-2010 06:47 PM

I am trying a modified version of this and it seems to be working, but instead of a crate it is a small area then a small room and I keep enlarging it as we go, 1 week no accident and we have enlarged her area to the whole main floor except for one section of the living room which up to this week was her favorite pee area. Good Luck


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