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RDB911 05-03-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3113581)
Thanks Ryan, I forgot about that thread.

No problem.
We need to help educate others...even if its one by one :)

Mardelin 05-03-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Annabel (Post 3113567)
I want to breed yorkies, because I think they are really wonderful dogs, also I want to see family get there new puppy, and I want to show people that not every body that have Yorkie puppies for sell are byb or puppy mills.

RDB911 has provided you a link to read. Read it.

There is also several threads that define BYBer and Puppy Mills.

Breeding your dog to provide puppies to your family is not the best reason to breed.

Since you've not provided much information on where you are in your knowledge of the yorkie breed or whelping/breeding. I strongly advise you to find a mentor first, one that is knowledgable on all things yorkie.

But, I have one question for you. Are you prepared to lose your female. Because it does happen. Go to the breeding section of this forum....you'll see a lot of information of what can happens to those that have had your same thoughts.

Breeding yorkies is not an inexpensive endevor and if you aren't doing it with the goal of improving the breed, don't do it.

Annabel 05-03-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RDB911 (Post 3113576)
Welcome to the group :)

Read this thread...it has a lot of info:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-answered.html

Thanks it help a lot:thumbup:

Annabel 05-03-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DamSweet (Post 3113585)
Hi - no answers - just a "welcome to YT"!

Thanks :)

Annabel 05-03-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3113588)
RDB911 has provided you a link to read. Read it.

There is also several threads that define BYBer and Puppy Mills.

Breeding your dog to provide puppies to your family is not the best reason to breed.

Since you've not provided much information on where you are in your knowledge of the yorkie breed or whelping/breeding. I strongly advise you to find a mentor first, one that is knowledgable on all things yorkie.

But, I have one question for you. Are you prepared to lose your female. Because it does happen. Go to the breeding section of this forum....you'll see a lot of information of what can happens to those that have had your same thoughts.

Breeding yorkies is not an inexpensive endevor and if you aren't doing it with the goal of improving the breed, don't do it.

I did not mean my own family. I meant families that are looking for a puppy, not my own. Of course I want to improve the breed. I love Yorkie's (and any other animal for that mater). I just want to get my questions answers. Also I'm not going to rush into anything until I'm completely sure, of what I'm doing.

gemy 05-03-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Annabel (Post 3113506)
Hi: I don't know much on how this site works, but I'm giving it a try :).
I have a question for Yorkie owners. I have 3 Yorkie's :aimeeyork:animal-pa
(ages 14, 3, & 2). two are spayed/neutered, one is not, (she has high liver and can not be put under anesthesia).
Anyways my question is. I want to start breeding Yorkie's.
I want to know how can I find a male and female dog that are in good health, have good blood lines and registration, that are clean in genetic conditions, and that are not more then 4 1/2 lb each?
Is it better to get adults or puppies? Is it better to get only a female and find a stud? I know the female has to be 2 years and needs to go to the vet to do test, but what age does the male need to be, to be able to breed?
As you see I have lots of questions, and I want to be well informed of every thing before I get the potential parent Yorkie's :aimeeyork.
Please help me find answers to my questions. Thank you all so much in advance.

Also if it helps I am studding to be a vet tech and pet groomer, I also do volunteer work at a vets office. Thanks again.:animal-pa

First welcome to YT. It is a good thing you are studying to be a vet tech, perhaps your schooling will also cover the basics of genetics, how to interpret and read research, pathological conditions affecting dogs, etc.

I'm not sure if you are young in years or not, but once you've read the thread that has been linked for you by a previous poster, I'd like you to consider all the areas you need to become knowledgeable on. It may take you many years to accumulate this knowledge. Along the way, you need to marry or unite book knowledge with experience.
Don't be in a rush.. You may live in a small town, but the internet will bring you much information, such as shows that may come near to your area. If you are serious, then you will need to make the time and money to go to shows, to learn, to meet people. Look for judgin seminars that you might attend, also genetic seminars, breeding seminars, etc. Some may even be via webcast.

One of the caveat's in the health care area is : To do no harm. Not a bad motto to apply to dog breeding. A better one and a much harder one is to leave the breed better than when you found it. Breeding is not for just anyone, and much better to save up your money and buy a dog for your family, then to rush into breeding

Your learning can start right away if you wish. Start to study how your dogs move. Watch them as they walk, run, play, jump. trot. Can you pick out the differences in each gait? The difference in each walk. How does your oldest dog move compared to the young one. Video tape them, slow it down, learn the vocab of movement. There are many good books and videos on this subject. Start to train your eye.

Good luck with your learning

Annabel 05-03-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3113603)
First welcome to YT. It is a good thing you are studying to be a vet tech, perhaps your schooling will also cover the basics of genetics, how to interpret and read research, pathological conditions affecting dogs, etc.

I'm not sure if you are young in years or not, but once you've read the thread that has been linked for you by a previous poster, I'd like you to consider all the areas you need to become knowledgeable on. It may take you many years to accumulate this knowledge. Along the way, you need to marry or unite book knowledge with experience.
Don't be in a rush.. You may live in a small town, but the internet will bring you much information, such as shows that may come near to your area. If you are serious, then you will need to make the time and money to go to shows, to learn, to meet people. Look for judgin seminars that you might attend, also genetic seminars, breeding seminars, etc. Some may even be via webcast.

One of the caveat's in the health care area is : To do no harm. Not a bad motto to apply to dog breeding. A better one and a much harder one is to leave the breed better than when you found it. Breeding is not for just anyone, and much better to save up your money and buy a dog for your family, then to rush into breeding

Your learning can start right away if you wish. Start to study how your dogs move. Watch them as they walk, run, play, jump. trot. Can you pick out the differences in each gait? The difference in each walk. How does your oldest dog move compared to the young one. Video tape them, slow it down, learn the vocab of movement. There are many good books and videos on this subject. Start to train your eye.

Good luck with your learning

Thank you so much, you helped a lot. also the link is very helpful. I will definitely try to find a dog show near my area. :aimeeyork:animal36:animal-pa

Mardelin 05-03-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Annabel (Post 3113601)
I did not mean my own family. I meant families that are looking for a puppy, not my own. Of course I want to improve the breed. I love Yorkie's (and any other animal for that mater). I just want to get my questions answers. Also I'm not going to rush into anything until I'm completely sure, of what I'm doing.

Ok!

Will attempt to provide you with as much information that we can.

Breeding when done correctly is a long hard journey. It takes years and years of study.

Obtaining good dogs from a reputable, responsible breeder takes time. And most will not just hand over a breeding pair to just anyone, just because they want to breed. To put in bluntly, if your intentions were revealed to them that all you want to do is breed to sell puppies, you probably wouldn't get a dog from them let alone two. There is much more they expect more from a potential new breeder. They expect their dogs to be Championed first and place their dogs with strict contracts.

I will warn you that anyone that would place a breeding pair in your hands without knowing you, looking into your heart and willing to mentor you, are breeders that have no concern for their dogs. They are only interested in money and not the welfare of the dog. So, if you run across a breeder that will do this run the oposite way......

I highly recommend that you first find a mentor that will work with teaching you genetics, pedigrees, breeding, whelping and of course how to breed to improve the breed.

With the economy the way it is today, even the best of breeders have cut back on their breeding programs.

Annabel 05-03-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3113617)
Ok!

Will attempt to provide you with as much information that we can.

Breeding when done correctly is a long hard journey. It takes years and years of study.

Obtaining good dogs from a reputable, responsible breeder takes time. And most will not just hand over a breeding pair to just anyone, just because they want to breed. To put in bluntly, if your intentions were revealed to them that all you want to do is breed to sell puppies, you probably wouldn't get a dog from them let alone two. There is much more they expect more from a potential new breeder. They expect their dogs to be Championed first and place their dogs with strict contracts.

I will warn you that anyone that would place a breeding pair in your hands without knowing you, looking into your heart and willing to mentor you, are breeders that have no concern for their dogs. They are only interested in money and not the welfare of the dog. So, if you run across a breeder that will do this run the oposite way......

I highly recommend that you first find a mentor that will work with teaching you genetics, pedigrees, breeding, whelping and of course how to breed to improve the breed.

With the economy the way it is today, even the best of breeders have cut back on their breeding programs.

Thanks this helps. Is it better to get the dogs form one breeder or from two? also puppies or adults? And people please don't worry I'm not the kind of person that wants to do something and rushes into it. Believe me I do lots of studying before I purchase anything or any pet:animal36:).

Mardelin 05-03-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Annabel (Post 3113625)
Thanks this helps. Is it better to get the dogs form one breeder or from two? also puppies or adults? And people please don't worry I'm not the kind of person that wants to do something and rushes into it. Believe me I do lots of studying before I purchase anything or any pet:animal36:).

The best way to breed is to line-breed. Breeding dogs that have a common ancestor, but not closely related. And the best way to do this is obtaining your dogs from the same breeder. You never purchase breeding/show dogs that are less than 7 months of age. Never puppies. There is a lot information out there on the web. Attend seminars, take classes.

Annabel 05-03-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3113626)
The best way to breed is to line-breed. Breeding dogs that have a common ancestor, but not closely related. And the best way to do this is obtaining your dogs from the same breeder. You never purchase breeding/show dogs that are less than 7 months of age. Never puppies. There is a lot information out there on the web. Attend seminars, take classes.

Thanks. I heard that if you let the sire tie with the dam multiple times she can have more puppies and they will be smaller and easier to birth Is this correct/true?

Mardelin 05-03-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Annabel (Post 3113633)
Thanks. I heard that if you let the sire tie with the dam multiple times she can have more puppies and they will be smaller and easier to birth Is this correct/true?

Absolutely incorrect. Please stay away from what you hear. Take some breeding classes. Study, study, study. Learn from the best.

Annabel 05-03-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3113635)
Absolutely incorrect. Please stay away from what you hear. Take some breeding classes. Study, study, study. Learn from the best.

Ok, thnx:). Just curious do you breed?

Mardelin 05-03-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Annabel (Post 3113638)
Ok, thnx:). Just curious do you breed?

I'm an exhibitor first, breeder second. And then my signature is telling.

Annabel 05-03-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3113640)
I'm an exhibitor first, breeder second. And then my signature is telling.

Cool:)


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