My so-called friend disappeared
 

0And I'm sworn to take two dogs on the 3rd. I have a new job starting, and a new hobby that is taking up more time than usual, so I also am going to have two new doggie babies. I have only had one small dog as a smaller puppy and I got her at twelve weeks.

How many times am I going to have to get up at night to take the little 8 week old ones out? Is free feeding better as I'm going to have to leave them alone about six hour clips at a time? Crated with blankies, or out in a separate room with pee pee pads? They're girls, and they think they're about 2 lbs at almost 7 weeks. How big do you think they'll be?

I'm really beginning to stress...

Callie

They are too young to be taken at 7-8 weeks. They need to stay until 12 weeks with their mother. This is not a good sign of this cross-breeder to let them go so young.

How is your other dog doing? Are you really sure you can handle two puppies with the issues that your other dog has?

Giving your word to pick them both up is not the same as having a contract and since this is a cross-breeder, he won't be making any waves if you have to change your plans...trust me on that one. Unless you are dead set about going through with this... it just seems that you are not completely sure or ready from reading your previous post.

I'd opt for the room with pads, food and water. Toys, too.:)

A room with pee pads is best and yes free feed. they are too young to go all day without food.

I'm concerned about you taking on so much responsbility with such a busy schedule. It would be best if yhou asked the breeder to keep them another month.

I just called him and he's having a fit over the fact that someone took one of his puppies, he adopted it out to her for 250 and she took it and tried to go back and sell it to someone for 600 dollars! He says he's going to try to find her and hand her the 250 and pick up his puppy. I don't blame him in the least, actually. I did tell him that my friend had backed out and I didn't think that two puppies at the same time was a good idea. He didn't seem too upset, more upset about what the other woman had done to him. Clearly, he is not a breeder, it's an accidental early litter, and he's trying to do his best to place them in loving homes. I am still getting the one that I had originally promised to purchase. My guess though, once he calls animal control in his county to see what the laws are about getting the puppy from the 600 dollar lady, is that he will hand over adoption to them. And I'll have to go there and get the dog. If that happens, there are small dog wait lists for the local pounds and I won't get the dog, anyway!

Goddess what a lot of drama over a dog I don't even own yet!


Callie

Also they will be much nicer puppies, more outgoing and able to handle the stress better.

My schedule isn't that bad, actually. I have to up my rink time to about 8 hours per week, and if the job works out I will have another 25 hours a week out of my house. For the rest of the time I'm home reading or on the computer or cleaning. Not so exciting, or busy actually!

Callie

Unless he had a contract stating that the puppy cannot be resold, there is nothing he can do if they resell it. Also this is not animal controls responsiobility to get a puppy back for him.

If he has a contract, he can take them to court, but without a contract, the buyer did nothing illegal.

He should have investigfated his buyer a little more thuroughly, and had a contract spelling out that they can not be resold.

She said he's moving very soon.

If he gave the puppy up for 250 and that person turned around and sold it for 600 there is NOTHING he can do because this is not an AKC registered puppy sold with a contract from a reputable and ethical breeder. He claims it's an oops litter :rolleyes: and we have told you that his story is a VERY common one (moving quick and needs to sell) that most BYB"S and brokers use.

These are your words. sounds pretty demanding to me, to take on a new job, a new hobby and a new puppy all at the same time. A very young puppy, I might add.

I do wish you the best in whatever decision you make :)

You seem to want a new puppy really bad and that you'll be a caring mommy! ;)

I got my yorkie pup (as is usual in the UK) at 8 weeks. She had no stress at all. For the first minute after leaving her mother she snuggled up to the toy I'd wiped all over he mum to get the scent on it...then went to sleep and slept all the way home. She then had a chilled day playing with us and snoozing (as pups do). She ate and drank well and wasn't in the least bit timid or upset. I decided to leave her in her crate (she was used to a crate already) downstairs with a baby monitor and she got me up twice (to play only) the first night. After that she's just slept through and I've had to wake her up in the morning. She's sailed through her vet checks, is fully vaccinated and there's only a few more days left before I can take her for walks. She comes out with us sometimes in a carrier so is used to meeting people (which she loves doing), can see other dogs, has seen traffic, trains, the sea, etc, etc. She sits when told and comes to call. She does her stuff every time she goes in the yard and has had very few mistakes. We've given pee pads a bypass as she's fine with what she's doing. She's healthy, happy and very well socialised. She's also used to a harness and leash so is all set to go for walkies next Tuesday when she'll be 12 weeks. Oh...and she's fine with baths, hairdryers, having nails done, etc. Getting a pup at 8 weeks is not a problem. I've had them older and they've been more of a problem. The first 12 weeks are critical in their socialisation...and that goes for most of the planet. So pups ARE fine to be rehomed at 8 weeks...yorkies or not. They are terriers first and foremost after all. They are not retarded in any way. They are sharp and feisty. So ignore people who say it's too early as it's not. Free feeding is the best if they have to be left, though. And try to have a week off with the pup when you first get him/her.

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I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt. He sounds honest to me.

Callie

Well you are a lucky one in the UK, but this is the US and most people here have problems with a Yorkie that has been re-homed too young. Some get sickly, some have hypoglycemia problems, most have social problems because the socialization comes from the Yorkie mother's training not the human mother bringing it out and about, they are not old enough to be socializing with other dogs because of diseases (vaccinations aren't up to date till over 3 months old) So comparing what you think is the norm over in UK has nothing to do with reality or the problems from doing this in the US. And most BYB's don't do health care of puppies properly before placing them and she is thinking of getting a Yorkie/mix from someone just like that.

Okay then, wishing you the best! Good luck with your new baby :)

Not trying to be rude or argue but I have been following this thread and cant hold back anymore. IMO I think there are some very knowledgeable people trying to give this future owner who's screen name says it all, some good advise. Even though I personally don't think she needs a puppy at this time, Nor should she be supporting a byb. I made this mistake And brought my girl home at 8wks before I joined YT. And I wish I had known this info before as I had many many behavior problems with Chloe. But if shes signed up and an active member here, And getting all this great advise and she still chooses to go down this path..well That's just sad.

Now as far as the quotes above, #1) the akc says 12wks before they go home not 8. That may be the standard in the UK but any of our excellent breeders here in the US will agree 8wks is to early as they see the result from keeping them the 12wks they are knowledgeable on this subject..You may be able to separate them at 8 wk but that doesn't make it right. Why on earth would a breeder insist on keeping a puppy longer at more of an expense to them if it wasn't the right thing to do?

#2) Free feeding promotes obesity, picky eaters, And makes it very hard to distinguish weather they are eating to little or to much.

#3) retarded? Who said anything about the puppy's being retarded?

Yes, Chloes Dad, You Are Being Very Rude!
 

Would you please not post on my threads any more? Thanks for your cooperation.

Callie

If you have ever raised a litter, or gotten an older puppy you would know how big the difference is. I did not understand either, until I saw it with my own eyes.

So don 't feel that anyone is qualified to advise others until they have experienced the difference first hand.

That is like a newly wed trying to give advice on how to make a marriage last. They just don't have the experience to offer advice.

Whether you get this pup at 8 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 weeks whatever, they are still young and hypoglycemia can be an issue. Free feeding is the best way to go at that age especially if they will be alone for lengthy periods of time. You should not worry about a young puppy being overweight.

I would set up an expen if possible with food, water, a bed or blankets and wee wee pads for when you are not home.

I was a bit confused, sorry... did you decide to only take one? If you are planning to take two, since they will be very young I would let them stay together for now and worry about separating fostering independence once they are a bit older.

And good luck!

Why does everyone say that the puppy is too young to leave the mother at 8 weeks? I agree that they should stay with the mother until 12 weeks but I really don't see anything wrong with them leaving at 8 weeks. Plenty of dogs leave that early and nothings ends up wrong. Why does everyone say 12 weeks is appropriate? Just curious?

I agree with our post except for free feeding. Yorkies do not tend to over eat. And a young puppy should not be left alone all day without food.

My dogs are all free fed, always have been and not a single one is picky nor are they obese. In fact I would think it to be the opposite. If there is food there all the time, they do not feel like they have to gorge themselves.

I am sorry that I was rude clueless.. I really am. And I will not respond to you anymore and respect your wishes. But wanted to say sorry for being rude (your right It did come out rude) Although I do stand behind what I said, just not how I said it.

Also jeaniek Im sorry in no way was I saying that all dogs are effected the same but I have read many articles on this as well as talked to many breeders and vets and they all told me this. But if it works for you, great. But besides the overeating which i agree may not be as big of an issue under eating concerns me. I have included a exert from a article I read not to long ago.. And sorry again everyone for being rude.

Once-a-day? Twice-a-day? Free-feed? Ask around and you’ll hear lots of different opinions on the optimal feeding schedule for your dog or cat. So what is the correct answer? Well first off, rest easy as there is no hard and fast correct answer. That being said, it’s our opinion that free-feeding is the worst way to go. The best comparison we can make is that free-feeding is like having a full buffet in your house, stocked with food 24 hours-a-day. When you think of it this way, it’s not hard to understand why pets that are free-fed tend to be sluggish, lethargic, and passionless about their food. After all, how excited would you be about that lasagna if you had a big bowl of it sitting in the corner all day long? In a dog or cat’s life food is the number-one motivation. Sure, they love rides in the car, going for walks, or getting a visit from the neighbor’s pet. But nothing beats food. A critter with no passion for food is an unhappy critter. A pet should have an unbridled passion for food. They need to look forward to their next meal with anticipation and excitement. This creates the foundation for a well-tempered, happy pet.
In addition to the negative effect on disposition, free feeding is not ideal for the digestive system. Dogs and cats in the wild have long breaks between meals -- far longer than humans who operate ideally on 3 meals per day. These breaks give their digestive system a chance to rest and prepare for the next meal. So, if this is all true, why do some pet foods suggest free-feeding? For the same reason that your shampoo bottle tells you to lather, rinse, and repeat . . . to sell more shampoo. The sad fact is that many pet food manufacturers are far more concerned with the almighty dollar than the health of your pets.

Because experience has shown that they learn a tremendous amount from their mothers between 8 and 12 weeks. And it has been shown that they have a lot less issues with eating and biting and fear when they get older.

Just because one 12 week old puppy has not shown any issues from being rehomed at 8 weeks, does not mean that it is a good idea.

I got Bella at 11 weeks and I have to admit that there is a big difference between an 8 week old puppy and an 11 and 12 week old puppy.
Another thing is you really have no idea if this breeder is telling you the truth about age. I have actually known of breeders that sold 5 week old puppies to people telling them the puppy was 8 weeks old so that the buyer who wanted a tiny dog would think they were getting a TINY dog. Needless to say these pups have a very hard time and so do the new owners. Since your dog won't have papers you really can't know how old they really are you just have to hope for the best. If you are going to pick the pup up, make sure you check things like eyes and teeth and motor skills to gauge the true age of the pup.

And where was this article taken from you did not cite who wrote it an what credentials they have. What expertise do they have to be making these claims?

lol im not wanting to argue, I was just simply stating things ive read and that it was my opinion.. but since you asked here a couple sites that basically say the same thing...

Free Feeding | Dog Adoption Folder On-line | United Animal Friends | Prescott, Arizona



Free Feeding Your Dog?



Feeding Time - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company!

Those are few of some that I have found.. hope any of these help..ttyl