update on the puppy for my friend Update on my friend buying this puppy from the horrible breeder well tody i get a call during my launch break my girlfriend happy shes getting her baby friday i was so sure it was from another breeder nooooooo its judy the same damn breeder from before i all most lost my temper with her , shes hard headed why ask me for help? i rack my damn brains for nothing come on yt, for help, she doent take good advice,:mad: i just wish i never gave the okay to get involved with this, she needs my help to pick the baby up friday at the airport, well because i work there shes ask me.. i really do want the best for the baby i just wish she would have waited, my brother gave her a good breeder, that breds morkies she said no she wants purebred, and that this lady price is good she has no complaints on her breeding history, she licence breeder she has past customer buyer amazing reviews, shes got puppy with akc, well my hands are tied here, i will pick up the puppy and hope all goes well this little babys only 9 weeks weighs 1lb 10 0z how sad, i had to call judy, today to give my name address contact info to let her know i will be picking up this pup i'll tell you i was biting my tongue things i wanted to say after this is all over i am going to give it good to my friend |
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If I were you I would refuse to help her pick out the pup. |
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the dogs were morkies and she turn down the same the same price she paid for the yorkie hmm 12 weeks old they weigh 3 lbs |
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sometimes we have to watch the people we love make really bad decisions. we just have to be there for them where they are, not where we want them to be ... i just hope that this puppy is healthy and remains that way. you're a good friend to her and it's obvious you care about her. i'm sorry you're so frustrated. i definitely think you should speak your mind, but maybe wait until you're not angry any more. and next time you know to let her do her own research!! |
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my friend did take the advice today her husband did talk her out of buying this puppy : ) thank goodness... now judys showing her true colors... my friend husband said no to this breeder she cant even give guarantee. well shes now making up lies, saying.... the 300, was a deposit, not flight cost, hmm.. lies--- my friend paid 980 for the dog, and no deposit was ever meantion, nor is it on the site, its very clear when going to her site 650 for kiss e, 300 for shipping.. well because i work at the airline, do know your charge nothing until the animals board, which wasnt going to happen until friday.. anyways this is the email i copy and past from judy.. my friend disputing the full refund of 980.00.. and was told from paypal, she is coverd for full refund judy does need to refund the full amount or she going to be in trouble. YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON IN 7 YEARS THAT HAS BACKED OUT OF A SALE AT THE LAST MINUTE. I THOUGHT YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS, SINCE HE IS THE ONE THAT MADE PAYMENT FOR HER. I WOULD NOT WANT YOU TO HAVE OUR BABY IF YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A SICKLY BABY. THERE MUST BE A TRUST BETWEEN BUYER AND SELLER. YOU DID MISUNDERSTAND ABOUT HER FLIGHT, SHE WOULD FLY JUST A SHORT DISTANCE TO PICK UP PASSENGERS AND NEVER LEAVE THE PLAN AND THEN HEAD STRAIGHT TO LOGIN AND WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN ABOUT FOUR HOURS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO RETUN THE $650.00 FOR THE PUPPY. I AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE THAT ANYTIME YOU BUY A PUPPY YOUR DEPOSIT OF $ 300.00 IS ALWAYS NON REFUNDABLE, THAT COVERS THE SELLER INCASE THEY DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WANT TO CANCEL AT THE LAST MINUTE. HER VET HEALTH CERTIFICATE TO FLY WAS $95.00 AND WE PAY THE SHIPPER TO MAKE YOUR FLIGHT ARRANGEMENTS, PLUS WE HAD TO PAY $30.00 TO PROCESS YOUR PAY PAL FEE. PLUS WE LOST ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO BUY HER AND MUST PAY TO PUT HER BACK ON PUPPY FIND. WE WILL REFUND $650.00 OF YOUR $980.00 AND KEEP THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT OF $300.00. TO COVER OUR EXPENSES. WE ARE SORRY THIS DID NOT WORK OUT FOR OUR BABY, I KNOW YOU WOULD HAVE LOVED KISS-E......JUDY |
That really sucks. Pum even if she loses the $300, it will worth it to NOT buy from this breeder. Call it education expense. I'm sure she will be much wiser next time. |
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Now in regards about the morkie......Well it is still a mutt....No reputable breeder cross breeds. At times we can only do, what we can do. And some get it and some don't. It seems she got it, but a just bit late where it may temporarily affect her pocket book. Let me add $300.00 is a bit steep for shipping. That is unless the pup is being hand carried in cabin. Most reputable breeders pay this for a cross country flight and their dogs travel in cabin. |
Well the good thing is she isn't buying from this breeder and hopefully the experience has taught her to only buy from someone reputable! |
Can I just clarify something you said (Mardelin) up above? You said morkies are "mutts" so does that mean that any yorkie who isn't steel blue and gold is a mutt? When you say that a breeder who cross breeds is unethical to me that word implies that there has been a moral offense. I think using the word mutt is extremely harsh and can agree they are a cross breed but according to my SPCA and vet a mutt by definition is a dog that you have no idea what type of breed they are! Second, in my opinion just because a breeder doesn't breed steel blue and gold standard yorkies does not make them unethical. They for sure don't follow the "yorkie standards as provided by AKC" but does not mean that they are just out for the money only and don't give a crap about what they are doing! There are plenty cross breeders who love their dogs, love their puppies and would never put them in harms way! I personally know of 2. And they would never pull a stunt like the breeder described in this thread. I've seen Several people use the word "mutt" over the last few days when referring to cross breeds and it makes my skin crawl. Does that go for biewers and partis too? I'm also personally opossed to breeders who aren't breeding standard yorkies being called unethical and all lumped into the "devil breeders" pile! My personal opinion that I know I'm going to be slammed for!! |
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Maybe your friend will listen to you the next time?! I sure hope so!;) |
Yep! Noticed that after I hit submit! Meant to say morkies! Regardless of whether it a parti, biewer, morkie etc. They are cross breeds and not mutts! A mutt is a dog that you cannot determine a breed on! I also was bothered by the fact that breeders who do nothing else wrong but not breed standard yorkies are called unethical. It to me seems that they are all lumped with all the other devil breeders out there and that's not fair! There are pure bred yorkie breeders who breed for the money too which to me is a reason to call a breeder unethical along with ones who treat their dogs like cash cows. There are breeders of all kinds like that! But cross breeders are the only ones who immediately are slammed for just cross breeding. There is something screwed up and off to me about using that word out of context and in the true meaning of the word! That's all I was saying! Thanks for helping me to clear up the morkie bit! Ps. The definition of unethical in webster's dictionary is: "not morally correct." the adjectives associated with this word are: immoral, unprincipled, unscrupulous, dishonorable, dishonest, wrong, deceitful, unfair, fraudulent, underhanded, wicked, evil, sneaky, corrupt. No where in that list is there a word that cross breeding applies to unless the person is trying to pass off their cross breed as a pure bred! The definition of a mutt in the dictionary is "a mongrel dog, a long haired mutt of doubtful pedigree!" cross breeds are not doubtful in pedigree |
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Another discussion, for another thread. :) |
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A Parti Yorkie and or Biewer is not a mixed breed. Parti is a Yorkshire Terrier and the Biewer is the name the German breeder gave his Yorkshire Terrier line that had different coloring. Of course it's more detailed than this but BOTH are not mixed breeds. A Morkie though loved by many members on YT is a mutt/mongrel no matter how cute they may be, or how you want to sugar coat it, or how many feelings get hurt in calling it that. A mutt or mongrel is a dog with two or more breeds use in the making. No reputable, ethical, responsible Yorkshire Terrier breeder mixes their breed line with another breed...PERIOD! I would say to anyone who wants one, just love your Morkie's and stop being offended by the facts. But trying to convince people of how ethical a BYB breeder who breeds mixed dogs are, is pointless in the world of having integrity. |
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