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vbayne 03-14-2010 02:49 PM
what is the difference??
 
What is the difference between a yorkie, biewer and parti? Just wondering.....

Micah my love 03-14-2010 02:59 PM
AKC papers

bchgirl 03-14-2010 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Micah my love (Post 3040540)
AKC papers
The short version. lol.

Oh and biewers have tails. ;)

There are standard colored yorkies and parti colored yorkies. Both can be AKC registered. Partis are considered to have a color fault per YTCA and can't compete in AKC confirmation events.

Biewers orginated in Germay in 84, were imported to the US in 2003 and as yet are not recognized by AKC. They are recognized in other countries and can be shown in rare breed shows here in the US.

vbayne 03-14-2010 04:30 PM
I meant in appearance...

scrapindee 03-14-2010 06:03 PM
The biewers have a standard--4 white legs, at least the tip of the tail white, the chest is white and 3 colors in the face--which makes them so much prettiers imho.

vbayne 03-15-2010 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 3040747)
The biewers have a standard--4 white legs, at least the tip of the tail white, the chest is white and 3 colors in the face--which makes them so much prettiers imho.

WOW - what beautiful dogs! I'm gonna have to get one of those.....

TammyJM 03-15-2010 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 3040747)
The biewers have a standard--4 white legs, at least the tip of the tail white, the chest is white and 3 colors in the face--which makes them so much prettiers imho.
Partis can (and do) have three colors on the face as well....my Livi and her babies do anyway.

TammyJM 03-15-2010 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by vbayne (Post 3040523)
What is the difference between a yorkie, biewer and parti? Just wondering.....
The only difference between a Yorkie and the parti is the color. A parti is not a seperate breed....still a Yorkie...just tri-colored. The Biewer is not a Yorkshire Terrier.

Micah my love 03-15-2010 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3041263)
The only difference between a Yorkie and the parti is the color. A parti is not a seperate breed....still a Yorkie...just tri-colored. The Biewer is not a Yorkshire Terrier.

Did Mr Biewer lie??? my Biewers have pedigrees that call them Biewer yorkshire terriors the name given by Mr Biewer

TammyJM 03-15-2010 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Micah my love (Post 3041274)
Did Mr Biewer lie??? my Biewers have pedigrees that call them Biewer yorkshire terriors the name given by Mr Biewer
I wasn't trying to upset you. :confused: I was trying to explain it as simple as I could (because we all know how confusing it can seem to those trying to learn) and all that I meant is that, the Biewer is not registered a Yorkie. The Biewer is considered a seperate breed by the AKC (actually, they are not registered by AKC). Just stating the facts to the original poster.

I think the problem with these types of threads are that people are truly asking questions, trying to get clear answers....and then it takes one person getting upset with things not being written as they feel it should be. Then, as we have all seen....it goes from a question to arguing pretty quickly. Again, this was not my intentions....I was just answering her.

vbayne 03-15-2010 08:57 AM
What breed is the Biewer?

I have what is called a golden. She is beautiful, and I was told goldens are legit and AKC registered. Mine is registered AKC - not that it matters to me. I love ALL DOGS, whether mutt or pedigree. They all love the same. l0l

TammyJM 03-15-2010 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vbayne (Post 3041296)
What breed is the Biewer?

I have what is called a golden. She is beautiful, and I was told goldens are legit and AKC registered. Mine is registered AKC - not that it matters to me. I love ALL DOGS, whether mutt or pedigree. They all love the same. l0l
The Biewer is classified as their own breed.

Micah my love 03-15-2010 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3041293)
I wasn't trying to upset you. :confused: I was trying to explain it as simple as I could (because we all know how confusing it can seem to those trying to learn) and all that I meant is that, the Biewer is not registered a Yorkie. The Biewer is considered a seperate breed by the AKC (actually, they are not registered by AKC). Just stating the facts to the original poster.

I think the problem with these types of threads are that people are truly asking questions, trying to get clear answers....and then it takes one person getting upset with things not being written as they feel it should be. Then, as we have all seen....it goes from a question to arguing pretty quickly. Again, this was not my intentions....I was just answering her.
Tammy i certainly am not upset but was a bit confused by your statement
since the pedigrees list them as being Yorkshire Terriers and since their orgin is in Germany maybe that is where they need to be registered someone smarter than me will have to figure that one out.

But i do understand that show people would like to be inc. in akc shows

scrapindee 03-15-2010 09:19 AM
The Biewers as their own breed are competing in the rare show breed rings. While the Parti, golden, may be AKC registered, they cannot compete in any showrings and are specifically described as faults.

TammyJM 03-15-2010 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Micah my love (Post 3041319)
Tammy i certainly am not upset but was a bit confused by your statement
since the pedigrees list them as being Yorkshire Terriers and since their orgin is in Germany maybe that is where they need to be registered someone smarter than me will have to figure that one out.

But i do understand that show people would like to be inc. in akc shows
I have no idea what your pedigree states...I just know that the Biewer is technically considered their own breed....that's all I was saying.

Thomas J 03-15-2010 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 3040747)
The biewers have a standard--4 white legs, at least the tip of the tail white, the chest is white and 3 colors in the face--which makes them so much prettiers imho.
I think the biewers are just gorgeous!

scrapindee 03-15-2010 07:59 PM
I think so too!!!!

SassyAnn101 03-16-2010 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 3040747)
The biewers have a standard--4 white legs, at least the tip of the tail white, the chest is white and 3 colors in the face--which makes them so much prettiers imho.
:) Don't Forget Those Cute Little Tails:)

GreenwoodBiewer 03-16-2010 07:01 PM
I beleive that the Biewer Yorkies and Parti Yorkies are exactly the same dog.. they are both just a tri colored Yorkshire Terrier.. just a plain old every day yorkshire terrier with a color variation caused by a recessive gene.. that simple.. the German ones just bark with a slight accent.

If you don't dock the Parti tails.. they would also have a tail.. imagine! If you breed two Parti yorkies that have the Irish spotting pattern together instead of ones that have the Piebald gene together.. you would start getting the same patterning that is in the Biewer standard instead of the random patterning created by the Piebald gene.. I believe Mr. Biewer saw that and bred accordingly. I have a Parti that looks exactly like my Biewers.. down to the white tip at the end of his undocked tail.

You maynot agree.. but give yourselves some time.. I bet you'll get here eventually... but I'm not going to argue with you if you don't.

Diana :animal-pa

JeanieK 03-16-2010 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 3043375)
I beleive that the Biewer Yorkies and Parti Yorkies are exactly the same dog.. they are both just a tri colored Yorkshire Terrier.. just a plain old every day yorkshire terrier with a color variation caused by a recessive gene.. that simple.. the German ones just bark with a slight accent.

If you don't dock the Parti tails.. they would also have a tail.. imagine! If you breed two Parti yorkies that have the Irish spotting pattern together instead of ones that have the Piebald gene together.. you would start getting the same patterning that is in the Biewer standard instead of the random patterning created by the Piebald gene.. I believe Mr. Biewer saw that and bred accordingly. I have a Parti that looks exactly like my Biewers.. down to the white tip at the end of his undocked tail.

You maynot agree.. but give yourselves some time.. I bet you'll get here eventually... but I'm not going to argue with you if you don't.

Diana :animal-pa
That is the way I would have described it also.

The Biewer are a separate breed only because the German registries allowed them to call themelves a separate breed. The AKC does not recognize them as a separate breed, nor do they allow them to be registered as yorkies because their parents are not registered as yorkies.

I think The parti colored yorkies can be registered with APRI and shown in their shows, they just cannot be shown at AKC shows because the parti color is considered a fault.

But if you leave out the registries, and go with the genetics, they are all tri colored yorkies. Biewers have a color standard, but I imagine there are Biewers born that do not meet that standard, just as there are traditional colored yorkies born that do not meet the standard.

joeyandtanksmom 03-17-2010 08:27 PM
a touch off topic...but...I used to think that partis and biewers shouldn't be bred, because they weren't the "yorkie standard"...but you know what? after quite a bit of research and thought, it's come to my attention that it's just colors, pretty much...it's dog racism in my opinion, and if I feel that racism is bad, then wouldn't the dog version be just as bad? They're all cute!!!

Pinehaven 03-18-2010 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyandtanksmom (Post 3044758)
a touch off topic...but...I used to think that partis and biewers shouldn't be bred, because they weren't the "yorkie standard"...but you know what? after quite a bit of research and thought, it's come to my attention that it's just colors, pretty much...it's dog racism in my opinion, and if I feel that racism is bad, then wouldn't the dog version be just as bad? They're all cute!!!
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

JeanieK 03-18-2010 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyandtanksmom (Post 3044758)
a touch off topic...but...I used to think that partis and biewers shouldn't be bred, because they weren't the "yorkie standard"...but you know what? after quite a bit of research and thought, it's come to my attention that it's just colors, pretty much...it's dog racism in my opinion, and if I feel that racism is bad, then wouldn't the dog version be just as bad? They're all cute!!!
Yay We have one convert here. it is a naturally occuring color in the yorkie gene pool.

Thomas J 03-18-2010 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyandtanksmom (Post 3044758)
a touch off topic...but...I used to think that partis and biewers shouldn't be bred, because they weren't the "yorkie standard"...but you know what? after quite a bit of research and thought, it's come to my attention that it's just colors, pretty much...it's dog racism in my opinion, and if I feel that racism is bad, then wouldn't the dog version be just as bad? They're all cute!!!
the racism comment made me laugh..
I love these dogs..I love to look at them..their colors are just so very pretty to me! I just wish I had one!

vbayne 03-18-2010 02:40 PM
I think they are exquisite!!! If I didn't already have 2 yorkies, I would think seriously about getting one!


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