Ooops, think I upset somebody.
 

Not on here thankfully, but on another forum.
There was yet another post from somebody who'd bred their dog [miniature yorkie] and now they wanted advice. I pointed out there was no such thing as a mini-yorkie or any other size specification for that matter, but of course they are right and every edjucated yorkie owner is wrong.
I know it shouldn't get me annoyed but why do people breed before finding out the information they need. Many people work so hard at protecting this wonderful breed and it annoys me when people continue to put the cart before the horse. I dont believe in telling others weather they can or cant breed but at least they should do their reserch first. I know accidents do happen but for me theres no excuse for not doing research, many think just because their pet carries certain lines it justifies breeding from them, but even good lines carry problems.
Sorry just needed to get this off my chest.

Why do they do it? For $$$$$$$$$$$:(

Here's something to chew on....I was at a dog event (all breed) with both my boys on Sunday.

We saw (amongst the hundreds? of dogs) maybe 20-30+ Yorkies at this event (and those were only the ones we personally saw).

Guess how many were to standard? ONE.

I didn't expect anything different, to be honest, bc I know what's been done to this breed. The indiscriminate breeding is very sad.

This is why choosing a reputable breeder is so important. I feel like people here at YT try to express this until they're blue in the face sometimes though, and some just don't want to believe it. Frustrating.

Thank you for this post, sometimes I feel very alone on this matter. I really hate seeing what's been done to most purebreds. It not only bothers me when someone doesn't know anything about breeding, it bothers me even more, when they think they know it all. Seems like people can read a few websites and become experts. Many of the breeders I do respect, say how they are constantly learning. I often encourage buyers to support only the best of breeders; those who breed to standard. I think buyers need to be aware that they are giving breeders a gold star every time they purchase a dog from them, you are saying you approve of this breeder, and what they are doing to the Yorkshire Terrier breed. Our rescues and shelters are filled with pets, if you just want a pet, I hope you go to a rescue or shelter, but if you really want to see that the yorkie is around 100 years from now, find a really good breeder and support him/her.

I've noticed this too; I wonder if AZ is worse than the rest of the country? Not that the dogs aren't cute and loveable, but sometimes when were out shopping at Petsmart people will tell me that they have a yorkie too, and I think, "really"? So far, I've never said, "You need to bring it next time you come." :D

LOL :D:D:D!!! Exactly!

I can't tell you how many people came up to us and said about Marcel "Awwwww, this is what we thought we were buying" (:eek:) -and-

"Oh, is he a TEACUP yorkie?"

{errrrr....no, he's just standard size, but was the smallest one in his litter :)}

I can see why they think Marcell is a teacup, he is a tiny little thing, but Joey's 5 1/2 pounds and they ask me if he's a teacup. I've heard that lots of people are selling Silkies as Yorkies here, don't know if it's true, but it would explain some things.

I am a silkie breeder and we are facing a horrible problem too, we got breeders crossing the yorkie silky lines and is becoming a nightmare, I bought my girl from a VERY reputable silky breeder my boy came from another very reliable line, and after I heard a rumor I had to have BOTH DNA to make sure that my duo was 100% what they are supose to be and not a diluted one. :eek::eek:. Keeping the breeds pure and to standard is getting really hard to do with all the irresponsible breeding that is going on.. :confused::confused:.
just my little humble opinion ...
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Carmen in nj

Were the Silkies admitted to the AKC before the Yorkie, or visa versa? Is their DNA significantly different? Like what percentage is different, do you know?

yes I know, LOL, The yorkshire Terrier was AKC recognized in 1885.

The Silky Terrier was AKC recognized in 1959.
the silky terrier is closely related to the Australian Terrier , more so than the yorkshire terrier.
to this day the silky has more Australian Terrier DNA, than any other breed that was used to develop the breed, so is consider a cousin of the Australian Terrier.
The yorkshire terrier should NOT have any traces of Australian Terrier on his DNA.. this is what I am told by my club and the DNA lab.
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CArmen in nj

Very interesting, I know DNA is still in it's infancy, but someday we should get some remarkable knowledge from it, like just exactly which gene causes this or that, I mean we know a few genes, but to know all of them and how exactly they work together would be so wonderful.

Amazing! I've met up with Silkies and I couldn't tell that they weren't Yorkies. On another note, it does really bother me when someone new comes on asking for advice while their little Yorkie is in the middle of having puppies and they are crying 'help!', asking questions that I would have thought should have been researched before their doggie went into labor. I've often wondered how good breeders can hold their tongues. Guess for the sake of the puppies it is best to quickly help and not lecture. ~Joanne~

Yea, same here. I have people come up to me and ask if my girl is a teacup. She is 3 lbs at 5 months. I just tell them no and that she is going to grow. Others come up to me and comment on my little boy and said their dog was suppose to be what mine looks like but it's too big and ect.

LOL, belieme is not easy, I try to stay out of some of those threads I seem to notice that most of them come here for affirmation and when they don't get it they never come back. but if I can help one puppy that makes my day.
and yes silky and yorkie are very close to the untrained eye but once you get to study the breeds and see them close you start noticing the differences. My first check up is the dark rims around the eyes and the longer leaner body.. then I move on to the details...LOL
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Carmen in nj

Nancy I agree with you, to a point. I must reiterate. There is more to being a good breeder thsn just breeding for the standard. HEALTH must ALWAYS come first.

We would like to think that, that is a given, but it is not. there are breeders who will breed for looks without any concern for what is going on on the inside.

I'd much rather have a non-standard that is healthy than one who looks great but is not sound.

I just had this same question tonight when I was out walking my new rescue.. She weighs in at a whopping 3.5 lbs at 1.5 years old... I have a Mini Schnauzer that I researched, then bought from a reputable breeder who is the "best looking schnauzer" many of my friends have ever seen. Just because she is representative of the standard. When asked about my Yorkie, I tried to explain there is no such thing as a Teacup Yorkie...that it was only a money grabbing idea from irresponsible breeders, but frankly the general public will continue to believe what they are told by the beautiful websites and pet stores who make their money giving the public what they want...and not breeding for quality/health of the breed. This is a problem I think throughout the purebred dog world.:(

I just wanted to say, You guys are the best!!!! Yes, I am one of those that had an unexpected litter, my faul, we kept the guys apart and had Joey scheduled to be nutered the following week when we came home one afternoon to find them hooked together. This was 2 weeks after we thought Cabella had finished her cycle. I read so many threads and post on here. I know I would spend a couple of hours each day reading and yes alot of people didn't listen to what you guys were saying. I took all of the information you guys gave and put it to good use. I had a birthing kit ready and I had even printed off directions one of you had posted about how to help moma deliver and what to do if the unexpected happened. Cabella had six healthy puppies that she raised on her own with me starting to supplement feeding towards the end of the second week. Even though I did not need to put your words of wisdom to work, it was comforting to know I was more educated on what to do if complications occured. And I have learned so much about this breed since I have found this site, I only wish I had known about this site before I purchased Joey. And yes in this area backyard breeders are a dime a dozen. It's one of the few ways they can supplement their income and not have to report it. But I do want to say "thank you" for sharing all of the information you have. By the way Cabella is a 10lb Yorkie and Joey was 6 lbs. I wasn't dealing with the tiny girls most posters do. Sharon, Joey and Cabella

You're absolutely correct; health should always come first. I would pick a healthy dog anytime, and that was my primary concern in choosing a breeder.

Hello, a man say to me that dog is not real kind yorkie terrier. But, is healthy, run like rabit and good tooth. Not like internet storys about not smart dog breed who makes too much small dog with liver shoot and cant push out babies to dies in side, this is very bad mistake. I only tell my freind if like very much pure breed then go find wolf, this is natural dog and not a toy. But I like my little dog very much and oh my how he is digging, so much happy!

The "teacup" yorkie thing - I have heard about it so many times! I always tell people, there is no such thing as a teacup yorkie. Addie is a bit over 5 lbs, and people will ask if she's teacup.

We once met this college-age woman and her mom who stopped us at Petsmart after seeing Addie and said they were shopping for the baby boy teacup yorkie she was going to be picking up that weekend. I told her there's no such thing, in a nice way. They were very willing to listen, so I told them about the standard and what health problems to look out for. The "breeder" hadn't told them anything other than she was giving them a teacup yorkie. So not a reputable breeder!

Friends and family had wanted me to breed Addie (mostly so they could have her puppies). I told them: I don't know anything about breeding, I'm not willing to learn what it takes to be a breeder, and I just plain don't want to breed her. It took up until her spay for people to finally stop asking.

Thankyou all for your replies, I really dont know why this womans reactions got to me as so many have asked if Rosie is a t-cup, she too is 5.5lb, and I normally try to explain the standard. I think its as she was bragging she's bred toy yorkies before but now had a mini so wanted advise. Oh and now it turns out the father is her mothers dog whos smaller than hers, and her girl has candytops in her line so it makes it alright.
I did feel like pointing out so does Rosie but it still doesn't mean I'd breed for her, I know her mother is quite a bit larger. I have every respect for those people who ask questions before thinking about breeding as many do on this site and others. It took me 3 years before I bred a litter when I started showing and then I let my girls breeder choose the dog she was put to first time and I knew he was at the end of the phone whenever I needed him. Is it really too much hassel to do your reserch first.