Originally Posted by Sharly4 (Post 2921886)

I've been breeding for 13 years and my mentors for 20 plus we've all been giving first shots at 6 weeks. It's what my vet recomended since I first started and my puppies sometimes have 3 shots before they leave. I also put them outside at about 6-8 weeks old so they can start potty training. I've never had one instance of Parvo in all my years of breeding. I keep everyone up to date and on schedule! Neither have any of my mentors have had Parvo. I know you've all been doing research and if it works for you guys it works. This has worked for me all these years and I don't plan on changing.

Originally Posted by Reinell (Post 2921948)

I find your post mildly insulting. Just because I am not getting a registered Yorkie does not mean I am not getting a pure Yorkie. Just like getting. Registered Yorkie does not guarantee you will get a Yorkie with no health problems. Just because the pups are not registered the breeder is not automatically a backyard breeder. Her belief about not docking tails and removing dewclaws as she believes it is a cruel practice aligns with my DH's and my belief. Most breeders in NA dock tails to meet the NA standard which we do not agree with. This breeder also provides a two year health guarantee.

Originally Posted by Sharly4 (Post 2921966)

No my vet has never said anything about doing a titters blood test. I have always vaccinated my pups and taken them to see him and he has always said how healthy they are. He never questioned why I vacc. At 6weeks since he's the one that told me to. I've never had a parvo break out and he never recomended the test.

Originally Posted by Sharly4 (Post 2921886)

I've been breeding for 13 years and my mentors for 20 plus we've all been giving first shots at 6 weeks. It's what my vet recomended since I first started and my puppies sometimes have 3 shots before they leave. I also put them outside at about 6-8 weeks old so they can start potty training. I've never had one instance of Parvo in all my years of breeding. I keep everyone up to date and on schedule! Neither have any of my mentors have had Parvo. I know you've all been doing research and if it works for you guys it works. This has worked for me all these years and I don't plan on changing.

Originally Posted by Reinell (Post 2921948)

I find your post mildly insulting. Just because I am not getting a registered Yorkie does not mean I am not getting a pure Yorkie. Just like getting. Registered Yorkie does not guarantee you will get a Yorkie with no health problems. Just because the pups are not registered the breeder is not automatically a backyard breeder. Her belief about not docking tails and removing dewclaws as she believes it is a cruel practice aligns with my DH's and my belief. Most breeders in NA dock tails to meet the NA standard which we do not agree with. This breeder also provides a two year health guarantee.

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 2922026)

Sorry if it's insulting I was not intending to insult you. But it is the truth of the matter, you cannot guarantee that you are getting a purebred dog if you have no papers. You don't know where the dog "came from" and what kind of dogs are in the line. Of course you can't guarantee health either but a reputable breeder will have health tested all their breeding stock, did this breeder do all the testing? If she has had BOTH parents tested and can tell you about the grand parents of the parents then I would say you are dealing with someone a bit better but I still don't believe on letting babies go so early.

Originally Posted by Reinell (Post 2922045)

I can understand your point of view.

In all honesty I would not be heartbroken if my dog Rocky was not 100% Yorkie through the lines. He is 100% awesome! He is one of the most beautiful Yorkies I have ever seen. He is very black and tan and will be 2 years in May. This is rare as most Yorkies I have seen turn more silver or tan (his dad is very black and tan like him and his mom is mostly tan). Our groomer said she has never seen such a muscular healthy Yorkie in all her 20+ years of grooming (our dog loves to run and is built for speed I tell you!). Testing parent lineage is likely a good thing but no guarantee of good health. Purebred puppies that can trace the lines back generations can still have health problems. I am not interested in showing this is why lineage is not as important to me. I am not buying from a puppy mill or a BYB - both parents are pets of the breeder and she raises the puppy in her home and socializes them extremely well. We love our Rocky so much, that's why we want to get another one from the same breeder.

Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2922067)

In all honesty, papers do not mean much to some pet puppy buyers, they just want a healthy loving pet at a cheap price. There are many beautiful unregistered yorkies out there just as there are registered yorkies that don't look like yorkies. There have been many discussions how some people will buy pups with limited registration and breed them anyway, some may be of good quality and some may not.

My personal opinion is that a unregistered pup should cost no more than $400 to $500. A yorkie that stays black is a fault, the same as a yorkie that is too light or is parti colored. I know there are people that just don't care if their yorkies conform to standard or not. Everyone has a right to choose what they want but I know there are many people that are uneducated about the yorkie breed and they are too quick to select a puppy and they later wish they had done more research first.

One other thing, no matter if you are a byb or a show breeder, sometimes a breeding just doesn't work out and a breeder will get some pups that are not to standard. These pups might have longer muzzles, extra long legs, short legs, a bad bite, too large, improper coat and so on. These not so pretty pups need loving homes too. I really hate it when someone posts pictures of a yorkie that is not standard and people always just assume the dog was poorly bred. A homely yorkie can come from well bred gorgeous parents. Like my mom always told me 'It's what's inside that counts'. Yorkies are a loving devoted breed and they offer so much more to their owners than just looks.

Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2922067)

In all honesty, papers do not mean much to some pet puppy buyers, they just want a healthy loving pet at a cheap price. There are many beautiful unregistered yorkies out there just as there are registered yorkies that don't look like yorkies. There have been many discussions how some people will buy pups with limited registration and breed them anyway, some may be of good quality and some may not.

My personal opinion is that a unregistered pup should cost no more than $400 to $500. A yorkie that stays black is a fault, the same as a yorkie that is too light or is parti colored. I know there are people that just don't care if their yorkies conform to standard or not. Everyone has a right to choose what they want but I know there are many people that are uneducated about the yorkie breed and they are too quick to select a puppy and they later wish they had done more research first.

One other thing, no matter if you are a byb or a show breeder, sometimes
a breeding just doesn't work out and a breeder will get some pups that are
not to standard. These pups might have longer muzzles, extra long legs, short legs, a bad bite, too large, improper coat and so on. These not so pretty pups need loving homes too. I really hate it when someone posts pictures of a yorkie that is not standard and people always just assume the dog was poorly bred. A homely yorkie can come from well bred gorgeous parents. Like my mom always told me 'It's what's inside that counts'. Yorkies are a loving devoted breed and they offer so much more to their owners than just looks.

Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2922067)

In all honesty, papers do not mean much to some pet puppy buyers, they just want a healthy loving pet at a cheap price. There are many beautiful unregistered yorkies out there just as there are registered yorkies that don't look like yorkies. There have been many discussions how some people will buy pups with limited registration and breed them anyway, some may be of good quality and some may not.

My personal opinion is that a unregistered pup should cost no more than $400 to $500. A yorkie that stays black is a fault, the same as a yorkie that is too light or is parti colored. I know there are people that just don't care if their yorkies conform to standard or not. Everyone has a right to choose what they want but I know there are many people that are uneducated about the yorkie breed and they are too quick to select a puppy and they later wish they had done more research first.

One other thing, no matter if you are a byb or a show breeder, sometimes a breeding just doesn't work out and a breeder will get some pups that are not to standard. These pups might have longer muzzles, extra long legs, short legs, a bad bite, too large, improper coat and so on. These not so pretty pups need loving homes too. I really hate it when someone posts pictures of a yorkie that is not standard and people always just assume the dog was poorly bred. A homely yorkie can come from well bred gorgeous parents. Like my mom always told me 'It's what's inside that counts'. Yorkies are a loving devoted breed and they offer so much more to their owners than just looks.

Originally Posted by Reinell (Post 2922097)

Well said! I wasn't aware the black coat was a fault, as I think it is so beautiful!