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You're right she probably doesn't follow the standard..... |
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200 dollars would not even cover vet fees as far as I'm concerned. |
Yes... I am adopting a Yorkie next month, and my breeder will not let my puppy go until she is at least 15 weeks. This is a good thing, as others on here have also posted, because the puppy needs to get the best possible care and nurturing from their mothers. Everyone wants to have a teeny weeny puppy, but you have to do what's in their best interest, if you really love and care for them. I wouldn't even buy from this breeder that you are trying to deal with. There are plenty of reputable breeders out there that put the puppy's care above all else, shop around. |
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These are the same breeders we got our current Yorkie Rocky from so we have met them twice previously and been in contact via e-mail since. |
I got Lola at 7weeks, the girl I got her from didn't want her anymore so I took her. Lola is almost a year old and knock on wood healthy. Just make sure you keep Nutracal on hand or something similar to it just incase. I free feed so she always had food. Good luck with your new baby. |
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My opinion is that 5 weeks is a bit young for outside contact. 8 weeks of age would be better, at least the first shot will be given at that time. |
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In one study of a cross section of different puppies the age at which they were able to respond to a vaccine and develop protection covered a wide period of time. At six weeks of age, 25% of the puppies could be immunized. At 9 weeks of age, 40% of the puppies were able to respond to the vaccine. The number increased to 60% by 16 weeks, and by 18 weeks of age, 95% of the puppies could be immunized. Mary is right. Breeders who give vaccinations at six weeks are setting puppies up for parvo. Parvovirus: Serious Diarrhea in Puppies & Dogs |
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People who are not reputable breeders and ask a high price for unregistered will always price them higher for people to negotiate. I am sure it's all about the money otherwise why would she have unregistered dogs, letting them go so early, giving shots too early and doing everything else wrong? I wouldn't buy a pup under 12 weeks, I would prefer older even if possible. It's just too dangerous even IF you had good luck before it doesn't mean you will this time. This person sounds like a BYB and doesn't take the well being of her babies into mind. That's just my opinion. 900 sounds like a big rip off. You can't even guarantee your getting a purebred yorkie. Theres so many yorkies that are way lower priced from shelters then to spend 900. Like you said you can get a registered one for 800. |
I've been breeding for 13 years and my mentors for 20 plus we've all been giving first shots at 6 weeks. It's what my vet recomended since I first started and my puppies sometimes have 3 shots before they leave. I also put them outside at about 6-8 weeks old so they can start potty training. I've never had one instance of Parvo in all my years of breeding. I keep everyone up to date and on schedule! Neither have any of my mentors have had Parvo. I know you've all been doing research and if it works for you guys it works. This has worked for me all these years and I don't plan on changing. |
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They all have gone home at 12 weeks and later. This last litter went home as late as 18 weeks. |
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That being said, I will agree with the the other poster, those breeding outside the CKC or through another non stricter registraty are more often than not BYBers or Puppy Mills.....The percentages are documented. Bottom line, go with your heart, buy the dog that you love. But, remember you buy your breeder first and your puppy 2nd. You are buying a relationship for the rest of that puppy's life....beyond the length of the contract. Your breeder should be available to you 7x24. |
No my vet has never said anything about doing a titters blood test. I have always vaccinated my pups and taken them to see him and he has always said how healthy they are. He never questioned why I vacc. At 6weeks since he's the one that told me to. I've never had a parvo break out and he never recomended the test. I never read up on vacc. or why at 6 weeks. If he says do this do that I will. I believe he's looking out for my dogs best interest and health! |
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Not to long ago, I used vaccinations by a different manufacturer.....decided to have the tests performed on two seperate puppies (one being vaccinated with one manufacturer the other with the other). One puppies immunities did not have the immunities, the other was at the correct level. Had to start the innoculation process over on the puppy who's levels were below par. Expensive process, but worth it to know that the pups had their immunities. My vet didn't recommend this to be done, but did it at my request. |
Well so far the vacc. they've been getting have been from the same manufacturer and haven't changed. I like to stay with what works and so does he if the price goes up so be it. It's their health I have to look after and It always comes first. So like I said since I've never had an instance I've not concerned myself with the titters and nor has he. I know I can't say it will never happen but if god forbid it happens I'll consider. But like I said I'm sticking to what works. My babies are healthy happy and thriving. |
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Sadly, why parvo is such a problem is that many back yard breeders will vaccinate early and then sell their pups at 8 weeks after just one or 2 shots and the puppy buyer has the false security of thinking their pup is protected. My feelings are basically that the 1st shot at 6 weeks does very little good. Also you have to consider the long term effects of the vaccinations on the young puppy's liver, immune system and neurological system. Of course, we all have our opinions and in the end it is up to each breeder to do what they are most comfortable with. |
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Sorry if it's insulting I was not intending to insult you. But it is the truth of the matter, you cannot guarantee that you are getting a purebred dog if you have no papers. You don't know where the dog "came from" and what kind of dogs are in the line. Of course you can't guarantee health either but a reputable breeder will have health tested all their breeding stock, did this breeder do all the testing? If she has had BOTH parents tested and can tell you about the grand parents of the parents then I would say you are dealing with someone a bit better but I still don't believe on letting babies go so early. |
Well my yard is fenced so I know there is no way other dogs besides my own will be there. I keep my yard pretty clean from poo as every couple of days we pick it up. I'm not a BYB. I consider myself a very good breeder as I have kept in touch with my pups either by phone, email, facebook. There are many ways I keep in touch. I have taken proper precautions with the tests and also with the health of my babies. I have always kept my puppies till 12 weeks and older. I'm always so attached to them as I cry when they go. I think my vacc. Work b/c they work. You said yourself it wasn't till you switched that you did titters to compare levels of immunity. I never questioned b/c I haven't switched. So there hasn't been a reason. Oh I give the Max5. |
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In all honesty I would not be heartbroken if my dog Rocky was not 100% Yorkie through the lines. He is 100% awesome! He is one of the most beautiful Yorkies I have ever seen. He is very black and tan and will be 2 years in May. This is rare as most Yorkies I have seen turn more silver or tan (his dad is very black and tan like him and his mom is mostly tan). Our groomer said she has never seen such a muscular healthy Yorkie in all her 20+ years of grooming (our dog loves to run and is built for speed I tell you!). Testing parent lineage is likely a good thing but no guarantee of good health. Purebred puppies that can trace the lines back generations can still have health problems. I am not interested in showing this is why lineage is not as important to me. I am not buying from a puppy mill or a BYB - both parents are pets of the breeder and she raises the puppy in her home and socializes them extremely well. We love our Rocky so much, that's why we want to get another one from the same breeder. |
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In all honesty, papers do not mean much to some pet puppy buyers, they just want a healthy loving pet at a cheap price. There are many beautiful unregistered yorkies out there just as there are registered yorkies that don't look like yorkies. There have been many discussions how some people will buy pups with limited registration and breed them anyway, some may be of good quality and some may not. My personal opinion is that a unregistered pup should cost no more than $400 to $500. A yorkie that stays black is a fault, the same as a yorkie that is too light or is parti colored. I know there are people that just don't care if their yorkies conform to standard or not. Everyone has a right to choose what they want but I know there are many people that are uneducated about the yorkie breed and they are too quick to select a puppy and they later wish they had done more research first. One other thing, no matter if you are a byb or a show breeder, sometimes a breeding just doesn't work out and a breeder will get some pups that are not to standard. These pups might have longer muzzles, extra long legs, short legs, a bad bite, too large, improper coat and so on. These not so pretty pups need loving homes too. I really hate it when someone posts pictures of a yorkie that is not standard and people always just assume the dog was poorly bred. A homely yorkie can come from well bred gorgeous parents. Like my mom always told me 'It's what's inside that counts'. Yorkies are a loving devoted breed and they offer so much more to their owners than just looks. |
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The other thing that amazes me is those that want a dog that has all the attributes of a show dog, for a pet price. I guess that's not a bad thing, but absolutely not a doable from a breeder/exhibitor, since that one is going to be kept by me. |
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