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Freemerryjane 12-14-2009 07:39 AM
Is shipping a puppy safe?
 
Im just curious about this although I would just be scared to death something would happen to them or they would get lost or stolen. Not to mention they might get scared when alone etc.

Cha Cha 12-14-2009 07:46 AM
I don't know how safe it is, but I would think it would be terribly traumatic especially for a puppy. Also, don't they put them in the cargo section on the planes? And, isn't that terribly cold? Can you tell I don't know anything about shipping them?

MI Yorkielover 12-14-2009 08:01 AM
Shipping can be safe. Pet Air for example does not put dogs in a cargo area but rather in a tempurture controlled area. Some breeders on this site will ship if it's the only way but most prefer not too. Pet Air takes great care in making sure the dog is comfortable and safe. They will take the dog out for potty breaks and exercise if there is a layover. With Pet Air the pets are first on and first off a flight. Many pets and show dogs are safely shipped in this manner around the world.

John Stelting 12-14-2009 08:38 AM
Shipping Puppy
 
Bently was shipped to us from Dallas to Denver when he was very young.

We used Continental. Puppies are not shipped with luggage. They would die from lack of oxygen and the cold temps. Animals are shipped in an enclosed area with heat and oxygen.

Now when we fly we fly on Southwest since they only charge $75 each way. But dogs have to weigh less than $15lbs.

Good luck.

Yogi and mamma 12-14-2009 09:17 AM
my grandmas dog was shipped to her. she bought her off of the internet when we got her she had no more water but the main thing is she hates cars now i think she must have been dramatized in the plane when she is in a car she shakes and gets sick right away.

Lorrainelola 12-14-2009 01:28 PM
Please beat me down in flames but I just think it is so wrong to ship a puppy. How can someone buy a dog off the internet and not actually go and see it or see how the mother is with the puppies. I would never buy a puppy without seeing how the mother is. If the mother has a good temperament then the chances are that the puppies will.

I know people do it though so i apologise now if what I have said offends.

spiritwings1202 12-14-2009 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorrainelola (Post 2915706)
Please beat me down in flames but I just think it is so wrong to ship a puppy. How can someone buy a dog off the internet and not actually go and see it or see how the mother is with the puppies. I would never buy a puppy without seeing how the mother is. If the mother has a good temperament then the chances are that the puppies will.

I know people do it though so i apologise now if what I have said offends.
I agree, I would never ship my puppy. It is so important to see your puppy in person before you purchase it.

MI Yorkielover 12-14-2009 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorrainelola (Post 2915706)
Please beat me down in flames but I just think it is so wrong to ship a puppy. How can someone buy a dog off the internet and not actually go and see it or see how the mother is with the puppies. I would never buy a puppy without seeing how the mother is. If the mother has a good temperament then the chances are that the puppies will.

I know people do it though so i apologise now if what I have said offends.
You'll get no beating from me :D but I did first see my Sophie on my breeders web site and then the internet as I was forwarded countless weekly videos of her from birth to playing with her litter mates, socialization playtime with her litter and with the breeder. I also saw her mother & father so I felt confident I had a feel for her personality, parentage and social skills. I wasn't disappointed either.
She was wonderfully socialized when we got her and has grown into a
well behaved (for the most part:p) healthy, beautiful little girl who just turned 1 year old.

Lorrainelola 12-14-2009 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover (Post 2915745)
You'll get no beating from me :D but I did first see my Sophie on my breeders web site and then the internet as I was forwarded countless weekly videos of her from birth to playing with her litter mates, socialization playtime with her litter and with the breeder. I also saw her mother & father so I felt confident I had a feel for her personality, parentage and social skills. I wasn't disappointed either.
She was wonderfully socialized when we got her and has grown into a

well behaved (for the most part:p) healthy, beautiful little girl who just turned 1 year old.
What a great idea, sending you videos of how she was getting on. And that you got to see her parents too.

MI Yorkielover 12-14-2009 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorrainelola (Post 2915811)
What a great idea, sending you videos of how she was getting on. And that you got to see her parents too.
Yes, I looked forward every week to seeing how Sophie was progressing. I wanted to explain the process so you would understand I didn't go about it willy-nilly but instead did my homework. My breeder was great to work with so I was very comfortable with her. She also shows Yorkies and is the one who updates the AKC suspension sticky here on YT.:)

Freemerryjane 12-14-2009 08:34 PM
Im glad to see my post generated so many different opinions. I dont think I could ship this particular puppy. She hates it when I or my bf just leave the room. I was just wondering because I didnt know anything about it. Thank you for all the responses.

ladyjane 12-14-2009 08:41 PM
Here is an interesting site that shows airline incidents with animals:


Animal Airline Incident Reports

Pretty scary stuff imo. I would never allow one of my pups or one of my foster pups to travel that way.

Peanutbutter10 12-14-2009 08:45 PM
My puppy came from Arizona
 
Kathy had a service to bring them, they put her under the seat. This way she could monitor the water and anything she may need. I would do it again in a heart beat, she is a very well adjusted puppy. I can say it traumatized me more then it did her. I know of a lot of airlines that are animal friendly now and a lot of Hotels also.
Mary:D

Cerise 12-15-2009 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Stelting (Post 2915362)
Bently was shipped to us from Dallas to Denver when he was very young.

We used Continental. Puppies are not shipped with luggage. They would die from lack of oxygen and the cold temps. Animals are shipped in an enclosed area with heat and oxygen.

Now when we fly we fly on Southwest since they only charge $75 each way. But dogs have to weigh less than $15lbs.

Good luck.

WOW! I DID NOT know that Southwest started allowing pets! WOOO HOOO Yippeeee! :D I will book my flight to pick up my baby with them. I use them for most of my flying around. This is great!

chattiesmom 12-15-2009 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerise (Post 2917027)
WOW! I DID NOT know that Southwest started allowing pets! WOOO HOOO Yippeeee! :D I will book my flight to pick up my baby with them. I use them for most of my flying around. This is great!


What GREAT news. Can't wait to meet you in person. Don't want to hyjack this thread -but YIPPIE!


Personally, I would not "ship" a puppy. When I need to get a pup from here to there and it is too far for me to hand deliver or for the new Mom and Dad to come here, I use a "Personal Escort" service. The pup is picked up at either Atlanta or Birmingham airport, flown in the cabin with the escort and then personally handed over to the new owners. It's worth a few extra $$ to see that the pups get this type of care.

Cerise 12-15-2009 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 2917049)
What GREAT news. Can't wait to meet you in person. Don't want to hyjack this thread -but YIPPIE!


Personally, I would not "ship" a puppy. When I need to get a pup from here to there and it is too far for me to hand deliver or for the new Mom and Dad to come here, I use a "Personal Escort" service. The pup is picked up at either Atlanta or Birmingham airport, flown in the cabin with the escort and then personally handed over to the new owners. It's worth a few extra $$ to see that the pups get this type of care.

LOL!!! Birmingham was on my mind :)

Freemerryjane 12-15-2009 10:12 PM
I wanna go too!!!!!! ;))

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerise (Post 2917142)
lol!!! Birmingham was on my mind :)

BellaBlue82 12-15-2009 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorrainelola (Post 2915706)
Please beat me down in flames but I just think it is so wrong to ship a puppy. How can someone buy a dog off the internet and not actually go and see it or see how the mother is with the puppies. I would never buy a puppy without seeing how the mother is. If the mother has a good temperament then the chances are that the puppies will.

I know people do it though so i apologise now if what I have said offends.
I am buying my new baby from a breeder in Texas (Southeast Texas Yorkies, they are also members on this site) and I am in constant contact with the breeder. She emails me daily on how my little girl is doing, sends me photos, links on youtube so I can watch her playing with her brothers and sisters, and the breeder will be shipping her to me via Continental Airlines as I live in Las Vegas. I have done extensive research on how they care for the puppies in flight and have found nothing but positive feedback. I trust that my breeder would do what was in the absolute best interest of the puppy. I am so excited to be getting my first Yorkie (and dog for that matter)! So, to the original post, I say make absolutely sure that your breeder ships only with Continental or another reputable company that puts the animal's care first.

ladyjane 12-16-2009 05:37 AM
I posted a link about this that no one seemed to notice. Or, maybe no one is interested; but, in seeing this comment about one airline being the best, I am going to paste the stats here so everyone can clearly see what CAN happen on airlines.

Again, the link is: Animal Airline Incident Reports


(1) Total Reports: May 2005 - October 2009



Carrier
Death
Injury
Loss
Alaska Airlines
16
15
2
American Airlines
25
4
0
American Eagle
1
0
1
ATA Airlines
0
0
2
Atlantic Southeast
1
0
0
Comair
0
1
1
Continental Airlines
40
14
3
Delta Air Lines
14
0
11
Frontier Airlines
0
2
0
Hawaiian Airlines
3
4
2
Horizon Airlines
2
2
1
Midwest Airlines
3
1
0
Northwest Airlines
5
7
4
Pinancle Airlines
0
2
0
Shuttle America
1
0
1
SkyWest Airlines
1
2
0
Trans States
1
0
0
United Airlines
12
0
4
US Airways
1
1
1
Total
126
55
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Mardelin 12-16-2009 05:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2918152)
I posted a link about this that no one seemed to notice. Or, maybe no one is interested; but, in seeing this comment about one airline being the best, I am going to paste the stats here so everyone can clearly see what CAN happen on airlines.

Again, the link is: Animal Airline Incident Reports


(1) Total Reports: May 2005 - October 2009



Carrier
Death
Injury
Loss
Alaska Airlines
16
15
2
American Airlines
25
4
0
American Eagle
1
0
1
ATA Airlines
0
0
2
Atlantic Southeast
1
0
0
Comair
0
1
1
Continental Airlines
40
14
3
Delta Air Lines
14
0
11
Frontier Airlines
0
2
0
Hawaiian Airlines
3
4
2
Horizon Airlines
2
2
1
Midwest Airlines
3
1
0
Northwest Airlines
5
7
4
Pinancle Airlines
0
2
0
Shuttle America
1
0
1
SkyWest Airlines
1
2
0
Trans States
1
0
0
United Airlines
12
0
4
US Airways
1
1
1
Total
126
55
34
Hey! I'm interested just for statistical info, even though I don't ship, in cabin or cargo. My main reason for this is that I want to meet the new family face to face. It keeps my puppies in close proximity to me and since I offer free grooming for the life of the puppy it allows me to see them on a regular basis.

ladyjane 12-16-2009 06:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2918157)
Hey! I'm interested just for statistical info, even though I don't ship, in cabin or cargo. My main reason for this is that I want to meet the new family face to face. It keeps my puppies in close proximity to me and since I offer free grooming for the life of the puppy it allows me to see them on a regular basis.


I do not allow my rescues to be shipped...matter of fact, our group forbids it. I think most rescues do not allow it.

I have seen some do those "trains", but I don't like them either. Too many things can go wrong.

I am totally with you on placement. I also want to meet the person who is adopting. I maintain contact with all of my adopters.


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