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tobster11 11-10-2009 11:57 AM
Need Help..stubborn yorkie
 
Hey Everyone-

I'm new to this site but figured it might be able to help since I have been having sooo much trouble with my yorkie. His name is Toby and he is now two years old. He is sooo stubborn and always has to have his way. The problem with Toby is that he has started biting men, does not listen and jumps all over everyone. He does not like kids either! I'm afraid that when I begin a family I won't be able to keep him:confused: Anyways, if anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. I have read so many forums already but I havent noticed anyone having serious probs with their yorkie. I wish I knew about this website earlier. It was a great idea!!

Please help!!

Aimee

MommaTED 11-10-2009 12:08 PM
Was Toby socialized as a pup?

ARCHIE 11-10-2009 12:08 PM
Sounds familiar. Buddy is pretty much the same if allowed to be.
As good as he is now, he would just love to rule the roost.
I agree with you, not many, at least post about it, have had to
made many corrections with their Yorkies. Some need more
training and correction I guess. It's so important to be Alpha
all the time. Don't let him get away with anything. Stay on top
and correct whenever he needs it. It's lot's of work, challenging
and stressful at times. I had no idea just how stubburn and strong
willed these guys can be. But I've learned and I'm still learning.
Good luck and hang in there. Just like having a bad child you have to be
patient and continue teaching right from wrong.

tobster11 11-10-2009 12:47 PM
Thanks... no he really was not I guess. That is my fault and i have started taking him on walks to get used to people. We had another Yorkie before Toby and he was stubborn too but not as bad as Toby. There have never really been any young kids around either so he doesn't understand. It is very challenging yes and stressful. He can be such a great dog than he can just switch to being horrible. Don't know what to do... I'll try my best... thanks!

RachelandSadie 11-10-2009 12:52 PM
i really highly recommend some puppy training classes mostly for socialization with other dogs and people, but also for your own benefit because you can learn many techniques in dealing with the behavior and how to be a pack leader and encourage positive behavior. also you can watch shows or read books by Victoria Stillwell or Ceasar Milan. Victoria is more about postive reinforcement training but does use the pack leader ideas and Ceasar is all about being a pack leader and sometimes is more forceful, but techniques from both are helping us to train Sadie to be social, and to have better door manners and guest manners, she's bad about jumping on people's laps and kissing them and also at barking at people...but we're working on her lots.

hope that helps...training classes at a local PetCo or PetSmart are somewhat affordable and wonderful tools for your own education about your dog and for the dog to socialize and learn manners.

good luck and you totally can do this!! :thumbup:

MommaTED 11-10-2009 12:59 PM
Yeah, don't lose heart. He can still learn. Start slow with socialization and build up. Also the obedience training is a great idea too.

tobster11 11-10-2009 01:07 PM
thanks for your advice. what's funny is I took Toby to a class @ Petsmart and he failed haha. Also the instructor decided when she wanted to show up so it was not consistent and lemme tell you what a pain it is to drive him!! He wants to sit on your lap the whole time and that is not allowed. So i received a full refund from Petsmart for their class. I don't reccomend that to anyone... I'll look other places for some training though!! Thanks again- I can use all the advice possible!! I'm mostly worried about the biting. Especially bc they put dogs to sleep nowadays for that kinda behavior!!!:eek:


:thumbs up

RachelandSadie 11-10-2009 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tobster11 (Post 2875820)
thanks for your advice. what's funny is I took Toby to a class @ Petsmart and he failed haha. Also the instructor decided when she wanted to show up so it was not consistent and lemme tell you what a pain it is to drive him!! He wants to sit on your lap the whole time and that is not allowed. So i received a full refund from Petsmart for their class. I don't reccomend that to anyone... I'll look other places for some training though!! Thanks again- I can use all the advice possible!! I'm mostly worried about the biting. Especially bc they put dogs to sleep nowadays for that kinda behavior!!!:eek:


:thumbs up

what kind of biting...is it lashing out and attacking and meaning to do harm, or is he just nippy puppy biting...how old is he and how old when you got him..that might help me understand him better in terms of biting.

Sadie is 20 weeks old. we got her too early from a BYB at 7 weeks and she has problems with nipping and play biting, but she's not doing it to hurt us, she's just nippy and mouthy. we're working on it and it's better all the time, but when she was little it was more often and she didn't stop...now we tell her NO BITE and she listens more...we used a spray bottle on her. when she bites we say NO BITE and if she didn't immediately listen we squirted her and she stopped. now we just have to get the bottle out and she settles down and stops. you can try that, or try setting him on the floor when he gets too rough and he'll learn he looses lap time and attention for biting. also you can say NO BITE and replace hands with a toy.

good luck!!

Keira_Kuma 11-10-2009 01:21 PM
If you're looking into obedience training, I highly recommend clicker training. We used it with both our dogs and it really works. They catch on really quick and it's all positive reinforcement.
Our puppies can be a little stubborn at times so we'll need to do a correction once in awhile, but just a tshht noise gets them back on track. Clicker training really helped with that. They're just more responsive to us ever since.
Good luck with the training!

RachelandSadie 11-10-2009 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Keira_Kuma (Post 2875841)
If you're looking into obedience training, I highly recommend clicker training. We used it with both our dogs and it really works. They catch on really quick and it's all positive reinforcement.
Our puppies can be a little stubborn at times so we'll need to do a correction once in awhile, but just a tshht noise gets them back on track. Clicker training really helped with that. They're just more responsive to us ever since.
Good luck with the training!
i use this too...we use the word YES in place of the actual clicker machine...but it works the same to mark the behaviors i want and to show them when exactly they did the right thing.

MI Yorkielover 11-10-2009 01:49 PM
If you are having trouble driving Toby places I suggest you look in to a pet car seat. It makes traveling with your yorkie so easy:thumbup:! I got one from the HunterK9 web site and it works beautifully. It straps around the back of the seat and again around the headrest. It has a small leash that attaches to her harness D ring to keep her comfortably in place. It sets up high so Sophie can look out the window and she loves to ride in the car secure in her own seat. Yorkies certainly can be obstinate but eventually continued commands followed by treats, praise and patience will usually work. GOOD LUCK;)

tobster11 11-10-2009 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2875837)
what kind of biting...is it lashing out and attacking and meaning to do harm, or is he just nippy puppy biting...how old is he and how old when you got him..that might help me understand him better in terms of biting.

!!
toby bites men intentionally. It's not friendly at all. When workers come to my house he attacks them. Its gotten to the pt that we have to keep him in a room until they are gone, If he bites them one more time they are done working here. I think Toby is also socially awkward. It was my fault that we never actually took him out to experience everything. So lately i am trying that/ The water bottle does work! that was the only piece of advice i did receive from petsmart!!:) He is two years old and we had him since he was a baby, prob 7 weeks. I dont know im going to try to walk him a lot more and see what happens. that seems to take the energy out of him.

tobster11 11-10-2009 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover (Post 2875879)
If you are having trouble driving Toby places I suggest you look in to a pet car seat. It makes traveling with your yorkie so easy:thumbup:! I got one from the HunterK9 web site and it works beautifully. It straps around the back of the seat and again around the headrest. It has a small leash that attaches to her harness D ring to keep her comfortably in place. It sets up high so Sophie can look out the window and she loves to ride in the car secure in her own seat. Yorkies certainly can be obstinate but eventually continued commands followed by treats, praise and patience will usually work. GOOD LUCK;)
thanks! i dont really take him a lot of places because he doesnt behave but maybe ill start to and see what happens, Ill look into it:)


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