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sandyapk 10-15-2009 09:32 PM
UGHH Teenie yorkie sold/dies......
 
Friend of a friend buys a yorkie for his wife, the dog is tiny and it dies overnight. The husband talks to the breeder and gets a replacement dog. They call me for advice. They refuse to tell me how small the dog is but they do say it is 9 weeks old. OMG they paid 2 thousand dollars for a teenie 9 week old dog. Do they seriously know anything? I am so mad. Why do people pay 2,000 for a dog from a breeder that claims to be AKC. Any responsible dog would not let a dog go home so early.

They think everything is ok because this dog is eating....OMG.....I hate this.

My question is does AKC have a standard for when the dog should be able to go home? 12 to 14 weeks?

sandy025 10-15-2009 10:29 PM
i don't know about AKC but over here, 8weeks is legal to be sold or I would say puppies that have gone through 2 vaccinations will be legal to sell to customers...I think.

redvalaria 10-15-2009 11:00 PM
The legal requirements vary by state.

and none of them take into account breed differences.

Which is how the puppy mills get away with so much.

grrrrrrr.

Ellie May 10-16-2009 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sandyapk (Post 2841577)
Friend of a friend buys a yorkie for his wife, the dog is tiny and it dies overnight. The husband talks to the breeder and gets a replacement dog. They call me for advice. They refuse to tell me how small the dog is but they do say it is 9 weeks old. OMG they paid 2 thousand dollars for a teenie 9 week old dog. Do they seriously know anything? I am so mad. Why do people pay 2,000 for a dog from a breeder that claims to be AKC. Any responsible dog would not let a dog go home so early.

They think everything is ok because this dog is eating....OMG.....I hate this.

My question is does AKC have a standard for when the dog should be able to go home? 12 to 14 weeks?
Not sure if they have suggestions on that, but the Yorkshire Terrier Club of Aergica believes that no Yorkie should be sold before 12 weeks. Being the breed's official club, I would think more breeders would listen to them.:mad:

Mardelin 10-16-2009 04:44 AM
Sandyapk is a personal friend of mine and knows all about responsible breeders and the laws in California. Since I'm YTCA she's also familiar with the Code of Ethics and Conduct. I think she's venting and wondering why there are breeders out there, where their only concern is to sell puppies.

Sandy as long as there are people that are uneducated they will continue to fuel the unethical breeder. My concern is if they replaced the pup with another pup from the same litter?

I'm wondering why our mutual friend didn't call me?

Mardelin 10-16-2009 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sandyapk (Post 2841577)
Friend of a friend buys a yorkie for his wife, the dog is tiny and it dies overnight. The husband talks to the breeder and gets a replacement dog. They call me for advice. They refuse to tell me how small the dog is but they do say it is 9 weeks old. OMG they paid 2 thousand dollars for a teenie 9 week old dog. Do they seriously know anything? I am so mad. Why do people pay 2,000 for a dog from a breeder that claims to be AKC. Any responsible dog would not let a dog go home so early.

They think everything is ok because this dog is eating....OMG.....I hate this.

My question is does AKC have a standard for when the dog should be able to go home? 12 to 14 weeks?
Sandy being an AKC breeder does not make you a responsible breeder. As long as said breeders comply with the rules, regulations and their record keeping is in order that is all the AKC is concerned about. They do not police breeders breeding practices, unless there is question on the parentage of puppies....

There are many people out there that think that it is ok to buy a toy puppy at 8 or 9 weeks of age, heck I did too. All you can do is educate them, some get it and some don't.

sandyapk 10-16-2009 11:25 PM
Mardelin,
Yep I was venting. I don't know why he did not call you. He never returned my texts after a couple of them. I told them to get nutrical, and watch it's gums, and if it seemed wobbly.

He would only say the replacement puppy was little. He saw Mia when she first came home, and he said this one is smaller. OMG!! Less than 2 1/2 pounds.

The owner of the dog is a business woman. I hope she will just take this puppy with her to make sure it eats often. I wanted so bad to say give it to me for a month. At least I could make sure it ate, and try to keep it alive.

Yes we all made mistakes early on. I just felt horrible to hear the first one died, so they just replaced it so quickly. My heart tells me the first one did not have to die if the breeder was more responsible and kept that puppy with it's mom and liter mates.

Just made me sad/angry.

Thanks for understanding Mary.

Yorkie_Mama 10-16-2009 11:43 PM
People
 
The other day at a rest stop on the way home from a show I was taking my kids out to pottie and a woman had a six week old Yorkie Puppie I kid you NOT that she had just purchased and ofcorse she was letting in walk around the pet area no lead.. I let my inner Byotch out and asked her if she understood about parvo I told her I hoped the Puppie would surive her

Sharly4 10-17-2009 01:06 AM
How sad. I hope this one lives. I'll be praying for the little one.

Mardelin 10-17-2009 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkie_Mama (Post 2842857)
The other day at a rest stop on the way home from a show I was taking my kids out to pottie and a woman had a six week old Yorkie Puppie I kid you NOT that she had just purchased and ofcorse she was letting in walk around the pet area no lead.. I let my inner Byotch out and asked her if she understood about parvo I told her I hoped the Puppie would surive her
My gosh I don't even let my adult dogs touch ground in public places, let alone even take a 6 week old puppy with me anywhere. Except to Sandy's for Thanksgiving Dinner, when I bundled up, mom, babies and all the puppy equipment and placed them all in her safe, warm, quiet home office.

megansmomma 10-17-2009 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2841676)
Sandyapk is a personal friend of mine and knows all about responsible breeders and the laws in California. Since I'm YTCA she's also familiar with the Code of Ethics and Conduct. I think she's venting and wondering why there are breeders out there, where their only concern is to sell puppies.

Sandy as long as there are people that are uneducated they will continue to fuel the unethical breeder. My concern is if they replaced the pup with another pup from the same litter?

I'm wondering why our mutual friend didn't call me?
WOW! :eek:

Lilyshuman 10-17-2009 12:08 PM
I am so sad for the first puppy. I will be praying for the new little one.
Can you keep us updated?

Thanks

I can only imagine how helpless you feel knowing this is going on and not being able to change it, my heart goes out to you too:heart to

JeanieK 10-17-2009 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2841676)
Sandyapk is a personal friend of mine and knows all about responsible breeders and the laws in California. Since I'm YTCA she's also familiar with the Code of Ethics and Conduct. I think she's venting and wondering why there are breeders out there, where their only concern is to sell puppies.

Sandy as long as there are people that are uneducated they will continue to fuel the unethical breeder. My concern is if they replaced the pup with another pup from the same litter?

I'm wondering why our mutual friend didn't call me?
Probably for the same resaonb he would not tell the OP how small it is. Because he knows what you will say.

I cannot believe that they just went right back and got another one the same age.

But maybe now with some guidance this one will be OK.

Disney 10-17-2009 05:32 PM
That is so tragic. I just don't understand what the appeal is in a tiny puppy. I've seen 'teacup' dogs and they usually look...Weird. Not proportionate.

FlDebra 10-17-2009 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sandyapk (Post 2841577)
...My question is does AKC have a standard for when the dog should be able to go home? 12 to 14 weeks?
I know you are just venting but since you asked the question, I will write what the actual AKC site says .....
"•Don't expect to bring home the puppy until its eight to 12 weeks of age. Puppies need ample time to mature and socialize with its mother and littermates. " American Kennel Club - Facts and Stats

Seems they are inferring that 8 weeks would be long enough to mature and socialize! Maybe we all need to write to AKC and ask that they revise their site to at least include a statement about toy breeds requiring the longer end of that time frame. I think too often, people think it is fine to sell any dog over 8 weeks, not taking into account the differences between breeds.

Hope your "friend of a friend" has a better experience with the new puppy.


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