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RachelandSadie 10-06-2009 08:13 AM

it might be a bad breeder, but that doesn't always mean the puppy won't be okay or turn out alright. it is a risk to take, but having taken that risk and had no issues other than mouthing and biting some and having to teach her the hard way not to do so, we've had NO issues with her and she's perfect

once again totally up to you.

BonBon 10-06-2009 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2828374)
it might be a bad breeder, but that doesn't always mean the puppy won't be okay or turn out alright. it is a risk to take, but having taken that risk and had no issues other than mouthing and biting some and having to teach her the hard way not to do so, we've had NO issues with her and she's perfect

once again totally up to you.

Rachel, I'm very happy you haven't had any health problems with Sadie. I just want to mention, in case someone new to yorkies reads your post, that Sadie is still only weeks old and there is no way to know what types of genetic problems or health issues may develop as a result of poor breeding as she matures. A lot of times things do turn out alright, and I pray this is the case for you.

BamaFan121s 10-06-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by enchilila (Post 2828367)
If the breeder doesn't agree to keep her at least until she is 10 weeks old, then I'm thinking about looking for another breeder. Honestly, I don't believe the puppy is with her mother. The breeder told me she put her with another one of her "parti" yorkies because mine was so small that she was afraid to keep her with her 3 brothers. I just feel bad for her. If she is not with her mother, then how is she going to learn what she needs?? I'm so afraid that this little girl will not grow up "normal". She may and she may not. We may have a hard time with her and, then again, we may not. It's 6 in one hand and a half-dozen in the other! I'm so confused.

I'm going to try and find some posts that explain the benefits of leaving a puppy longer with its mother.

I think that in that case, considering another breeder would be a wise choice. There is a very informative thread in the Breeding section regarding the developemental stages of pups that you may want to check out. :) Best of luck to you.

BamaFan121s 10-06-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2828374)
it might be a bad breeder, but that doesn't always mean the puppy won't be okay or turn out alright. it is a risk to take, but having taken that risk and had no issues other than mouthing and biting some and having to teach her the hard way not to do so, we've had NO issues with her and she's perfect

So then you have had some issues, although minor, that can be contributed to having gotten a pup too young?

Generally speaking, a risk is a risk...I cannot understand the logic of taking a risk that could have very dire consequences when it could so easily be avoided! :confused: Yes, everything *may* turn out OK, but it may just as easily go the other way and result in heartache. is it really worth it? The logic that doesn't work when applied to other instances...it makes no sense in this case either. But that's just me.

RachelandSadie 10-06-2009 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2828443)
So then you have had some issues, although minor, that can be contributed to having gotten a pup too young?

Generally speaking, a risk is a risk...I cannot understand the logic of taking a risk that could have very dire consequences when it could so easily be avoided! :confused: Yes, everything *may* turn out OK, but it may just as easily go the other way and result in heartache. is it really worth it? The logic that doesn't work when applied to other instances...it makes no sense in this case either. But that's just me.

it's worth it, if you could see my Sadie and how wonderful she is...man you would have done the same thing i did. my heart got involved with her long before i knew any different and i'm 100% glad that i got her and don't regret a thing. she's perfect and wonderful and honestly what do doesn't have a little chewing/biting issues when they come home, ALL DOGS CHEW and all dogs will chew fingers until they learn not to...so breeding really didn't have that much to do with that anyways. she's perfect otherwise and she's learning fast what she can/cannot do...

now would i go with this breeder again. NO, i've learned a lot about things since then, but i don't for one second regret or take back my choice of going ahead with Sadie. she's everything i could ever hope for and getting her "too young" didn't affect us at all...i'm sure some people do have issues with it, but we didn't and that's the truth. sorry i have to be honest here ya know. i mean i'd advise the OP to get a dog from a responsible breeder, but from my own experience 7 weeks worked out just fine for us!!

RachelandSadie 10-06-2009 09:30 AM

sorry i double posted darn it!

Mardelin 10-06-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by enchilila (Post 2828367)
If the breeder doesn't agree to keep her at least until she is 10 weeks old, then I'm thinking about looking for another breeder. Honestly, I don't believe the puppy is with her mother. The breeder told me she put her with another one of her "parti" yorkies because mine was so small that she was afraid to keep her with her 3 brothers. I just feel bad for her. If she is not with her mother, then how is she going to learn what she needs?? I'm so afraid that this little girl will not grow up "normal". She may and she may not. We may have a hard time with her and, then again, we may not. It's 6 in one hand and a half-dozen in the other! I'm so confused.

I'm going to try and find some posts that explain the benefits of leaving a puppy longer with its mother.

Thanks everyone.

Your heart is tugging, that's what this breeder is counting on. But, the final decision is yours. Some breeders depend on the new uneducated puppy owner to get a look at the pup, that's all that is needed, there heart is gone, aren't all pups cute.

As an exhibitor breeder and originally first a pet owner, I obtained my first yorkie at 8 weeks of age. Not until after I began exhibiting and breeding did I understand the benefits of pups staying with their moms until 12 weeks or longer. I definately saw a difference in the personalities, confidence levels were higher, and socialization was like night and day. A breeder that puts time and effort into her pups is making sure that those new families have an easy transition with their new pups and are not only looking out for the pup, but the new family, making sure that there will not have any problems. My pups have had a minimum of 2 innoculations, vet checked, love everyone and arent' afriad of anything, eating well on their own and are piddle pad trained by the time they go home.

Sugar's Mom 10-06-2009 10:26 AM

i agree with mary. I also got ceeby at 8 weeks old and he weighed 9 ounces. I had to cancel several holiday plans that year because he had one problem after another and I had never had a yorkie before. The most serious problem was pancreatitis over thanksgiving weekend. hubby and I ate bologna sandwiches that day because we were afraid he would die if we left him. i was seeing yorkies in the paper here every day at six weeks old. Still do and I shake my head and wonder. i have seen the benefits of keeping them with mama until at least 10-12 weeks. I have only let one go at ten weeks to a very experienced yorkie owner. That is the prime time for the mamas to teach them what they need to know to live in the world. My girls even potty train their babies.

livingdustmops 10-06-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 2828415)
Rachel, I'm very happy you haven't had any health problems with Sadie. I just want to mention, in case someone new to yorkies reads your post, that Sadie is still only weeks old and there is no way to know what types of genetic problems or health issues may develop as a result of poor breeding as she matures. A lot of times things do turn out alright, and I pray this is the case for you.

I agree as we don't see many issues they are a lot older.

I would question any breeder that is letting puppies go this early. I would walk away in the other direction as they are not doing what is best for the puppy.

BamaFan121s 10-06-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2828516)
it's worth it, if you could see my Sadie and how wonderful she is...man you would have done the same thing i did. my heart got involved with her long before i knew any different and i'm 100% glad that i got her and don't regret a thing. she's perfect and wonderful and honestly what do doesn't have a little chewing/biting issues when they come home, ALL DOGS CHEW and all dogs will chew fingers until they learn not to...so breeding really didn't have that much to do with that anyways. she's perfect otherwise and she's learning fast what she can/cannot do...

now would i go with this breeder again. NO, i've learned a lot about things since then, but i don't for one second regret or take back my choice of going ahead with Sadie. she's everything i could ever hope for and getting her "too young" didn't affect us at all...i'm sure some people do have issues with it, but we didn't and that's the truth. sorry i have to be honest here ya know. i mean i'd advise the OP to get a dog from a responsible breeder, but from my own experience 7 weeks worked out just fine for us!!

Ahh...but I never asked if you regretted your decision, or implied that you should.

Extreme biting and chewing can be an issue many deal with as a result of the dog being placed too early. Yes, most pups go through that stage, but only to an extent. Please realize, you were the one that mentioned that as having been an issue you dealt with, not me.

No, I'm most certain that I would not "have done the same thing" as my brain understands the risks you take by doing so and the type of breeder you'd be supporting, despite what my heart my tell me. But you are not to fault--you said yourself at the time you didn't know any better. That is the case for many people. But for those who do know better, and I'm assuming you include yourself in that group now, we try to make others aware of the dangers and risks.

Again, if you didn't have any major issues with your girl, then that is great. Count your blessings, but don't advise others that it's a good idea because you didn't have a bad experience and are proof that it *might* turn out OK.

I know people who have driven drunk and thankfully reached their destination without harm to themselves or others. But I also understand the dangers of it and would never advise someone that 'it's their choice and might turn out OK because it turned out OK for people before.' Same logic.

JeanieK 10-06-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by enchilila (Post 2828367)
If the breeder doesn't agree to keep her at least until she is 10 weeks old, then I'm thinking about looking for another breeder. Honestly, I don't believe the puppy is with her mother. The breeder told me she put her with another one of her "parti" yorkies because mine was so small that she was afraid to keep her with her 3 brothers. I just feel bad for her. If she is not with her mother, then how is she going to learn what she needs?? I'm so afraid that this little girl will not grow up "normal". She may and she may not. We may have a hard time with her and, then again, we may not. It's 6 in one hand and a half-dozen in the other! I'm so confused.

I'm going to try and find some posts that explain the benefits of leaving a puppy longer with its mother.

Thanks everyone.

Oh not to worry. the puppy will learn from whatever mother is available. They all play with my puppies. mommas aunts daddies and even older siblings and my neutered male.

They learn how to be a part of the pack and have good manners, and that there are rules and a pecking order and they are at the bottom of that order.

JeanieK 10-06-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2828374)
it might be a bad breeder, but that doesn't always mean the puppy won't be okay or turn out alright. it is a risk to take, but having taken that risk and had no issues other than mouthing and biting some and having to teach her the hard way not to do so, we've had NO issues with her and she's perfect

once again totally up to you.

Those ARE the issues. If they stay with the mother longer they have already been taught those things, andthe transition to a new home is much easier and less stressful for everyone.

Why do you let them go that early? Is it to avoid the work?

JeanieK 10-06-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2828516)
it's worth it, if you could see my Sadie and how wonderful she is...man you would have done the same thing i did. my heart got involved with her long before i knew any different and i'm 100% glad that i got her and don't regret a thing. she's perfect and wonderful and honestly what do doesn't have a little chewing/biting issues when they come home, ALL DOGS CHEW and all dogs will chew fingers until they learn not to...so breeding really didn't have that much to do with that anyways. she's perfect otherwise and she's learning fast what she can/cannot do...

now would i go with this breeder again. NO, i've learned a lot about things since then, but i don't for one second regret or take back my choice of going ahead with Sadie. she's everything i could ever hope for and getting her "too young" didn't affect us at all...i'm sure some people do have issues with it, but we didn't and that's the truth. sorry i have to be honest here ya know. i mean i'd advise the OP to get a dog from a responsible breeder, but from my own experience 7 weeks worked out just fine for us!!

If you ever got an older one you would realize that this statement is wrong. mine do not chew fingers.

the question is, now that you have been informed, why do you sell them that young?

JeanieK 10-06-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2828601)
i agree with mary. I also got ceeby at 8 weeks old and he weighed 9 ounces. I had to cancel several holiday plans that year because he had one problem after another and I had never had a yorkie before. The most serious problem was pancreatitis over thanksgiving weekend. hubby and I ate bologna sandwiches that day because we were afraid he would die if we left him. i was seeing yorkies in the paper here every day at six weeks old. Still do and I shake my head and wonder. i have seen the benefits of keeping them with mama until at least 10-12 weeks. I have only let one go at ten weeks to a very experienced yorkie owner. That is the prime time for the mamas to teach them what they need to know to live in the world. My girls even potty train their babies.

Unitll someone has actually kept them long enough to witness this for themselves, they just don't understand.

It brings tears to my eyes to see the pack interact and teach the babies.

it's the best part of my job other than watching them come into the world.

Mardelin 10-06-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2828943)
Those ARE the issues. If they stay with the mother longer they have already been taught those things, andthe transition to a new home is much easier and less stressful for everyone.

Why do you let them go that early? Is it to avoid the work?

And to avoid putting out more money and get money in their hands.


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