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coolbar 07-29-2009 12:47 PM
Don't mean to open a can of worms but...

Uh oh!

the lids been lifted haha

Gingergirlsmom 07-29-2009 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolbar (Post 2730382)
I assume AKC applies in USA

To be perfectly honest I don't know the standard of the kennel club in UK as I just love the little people to death and don't care what they are supposed to be.

Paddy my last rescue was 6lbs a cutie Alfie is about 12lbs and just as cute.

Years ago I kept Jack Russells another favourite breed of mine and they came in all sizes
Ah, clarity. Thanks for explaining.:) Yes, AKC means american kennel club, but actually now that I think about it, it may be YTCA (yorkshire terrier club of america) that sets the standard. I'm by no means an expert.

kezza 07-29-2009 12:48 PM
And also because i love toy breeds I get accused of wanting to be Paris Hilton!....NOT funny!:mad: I have actually had people say to me when they see Pixie, 'you're not a Paris Hilton fan are you'?:rolleyes:

Has anyone seen Beverley Hills Chihuahua? do you think films like this just make the whole toy breed obsession worse? Like Legally Blonde...my teenage neice became obsessed with getting a chi after seeing this film...then got given a Spaniel puppy by her parents and lost interest in it after just a week.

coolbar 07-29-2009 12:50 PM
Uni just knew that you were the one
A marriage made in heaven

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 2730379)
Uni was the runt of her litter, but she turned out fine. Her brothers would not play with her, totally ignored her. BUT I didn't pick Uni b/c she was the runt. In fact, she picked me! We were checking out all the pups and she tried soooooo hard and crawled up into my lap. I said, yup this is our new pup!:D

coolbar 07-29-2009 12:54 PM
Silly people
They should know that Paris Hilton is a Kezza fan
she really hides on YT here under a pseudonym
I know what it is but I am sworn to secrecy
I am under threat of death if I reveal it


Quote:
Originally Posted by kezza (Post 2730400)
And also because i love toy breeds I get accused of wanting to be Paris Hilton!....NOT funny!:mad: I have actually had people say to me when they see Pixie, 'you're not a Paris Hilton fan are you'?:rolleyes:

Has anyone seen Beverley Hills Chihuahua? do you think films like this just make the whole toy breed obsession worse? Like Legally Blonde...my teenage neice became obsessed with getting a chi after seeing this film...then got given a Spaniel puppy by her parents and lost interest in it after just a week.

kezza 07-29-2009 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolbar (Post 2730408)
Silly people
They should know that Paris Hilton is a Kezza fan
she really hides on YT here under pseudonym
I know what it is but am sworn to secrecy
I am under threat of death if I reveal it
LMAO:p:p:p

I first had a 'dog in a bag' back in 1993...she followed my lead i do believe;)

coolbar 07-29-2009 01:24 PM
A friend of mine has a chiuahua named Rio
We was on a job last year and bought some food from the chip shop near where we was working, my mate got a couple of saveloys(sausages) and had one bite and said I don't like these and put them back in the bag.
When he got home he gave one to the dog who turned his nose up.
Later that evening he threw them on the lawn for the foxes that visited as he watched even the foxes refused them.
I guess the sausages weren't very nice

bchgirl 07-29-2009 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom (Post 2730398)
Ah, clarity. Thanks for explaining.:) Yes, AKC means american kennel club, but actually now that I think about it, it may be YTCA (yorkshire terrier club of america) that sets the standard. I'm by no means an expert.
YTCA is the recognized parent club by AKC and as such...it is YTCA that sets the standard

Gingergirlsmom 07-29-2009 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2730476)
YTCA is the recognized parent club by AKC and as such...it is YTCA that sets the standard
Thanks!

LilMissy 07-29-2009 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkie mad (Post 2730364)
Hiya Nancy , how are you doing ?
Well Tia is 5lb so she doesn't fit into the tea cup or tea pot category so does that make her a tea bag lol
That answers my question! So if Missy is no longer a teacup, but not nearly a teapot...then she must be a teaBAG! That's perfect! :p

jmdt 07-29-2009 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LilMissy (Post 2730485)
That answers my question! So if Missy is no longer a teacup, but not nearly a teapot...then she must be a teaBAG! That's perfect! :p
Aw little Missy a teabag!!! Tooo cute

Jules5544 07-29-2009 02:35 PM
I'm glad this topic was posted. I know that teacup is used as a marketing ploy and to get more money and they're higher health risks having a "teacup". I fell in love with Lucy when I saw her; she was the same price as all of the rest. She is 6 months and 3 lbs. I thought she'd make it to 5 lbs and maybe she will. Regardless if she's 3 lbs or 7 lbs, I'll still love her. I get a lot of comments when I'm walking her. Some people frown upon tiny dogs calling them rats or is that a dog, it's smaller than my cat. I do not call her a teacup because I know there is a lot of negativity around that name. If people question her size I tell them I don't expect her to get much bigger. Some ask if she's a teacup and I'll say yes thinking they are using the name and I know what they are referring too. It sucks that we have to defend our yorkies size whether they are tinies, teapots or teabags. ;)

jmdt 07-29-2009 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jules5544 (Post 2730573)
I'm glad this topic was posted. I know that teacup is used as a marketing ploy and to get more money and they're higher health risks having a "teacup". I fell in love with Lucy when I saw her; she was the same price as all of the rest. She is 6 months and 3 lbs. I thought she'd make it to 5 lbs and maybe she will. Regardless if she's 3 lbs or 7 lbs, I'll still love her. I get a lot of comments when I'm walking her. Some people frown upon tiny dogs calling them rats or is that a dog, it's smaller than my cat. I do not call her a teacup because I know there is a lot of negativity around that name. If people question her size I tell them I don't expect her to get much bigger. Some ask if she's a teacup and I'll say yes thinking they are using the name and I know what they are referring too. It sucks that we have to defend our yorkies size whether they are tinies, teapots or teabags. ;)
I agree. When people ask me if my Pebbles is a teacup I say no she is just small thats all. But when they see my Trixie they say wow that's not a yorkie...she's too big. They don't know what the heck they are talking about. I say no she is just bigger.

Gingergirlsmom 07-29-2009 02:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jules5544 (Post 2730573)
I'm glad this topic was posted. I know that teacup is used as a marketing ploy and to get more money and they're higher health risks having a "teacup". I fell in love with Lucy when I saw her; she was the same price as all of the rest. She is 6 months and 3 lbs. I thought she'd make it to 5 lbs and maybe she will. Regardless if she's 3 lbs or 7 lbs, I'll still love her. I get a lot of comments when I'm walking her. Some people frown upon tiny dogs calling them rats or is that a dog, it's smaller than my cat. I do not call her a teacup because I know there is a lot of negativity around that name. If people question her size I tell them I don't expect her to get much bigger. Some ask if she's a teacup and I'll say yes thinking they are using the name and I know what they are referring too. It sucks that we have to defend our yorkies size whether they are tinies, teapots or teabags. ;)
You are so right!

erickajm 07-29-2009 02:49 PM
I called him a Tea Urn[/QUOTE]


:lol tears

So now I will break it down:

Tinies ~ teacups
Mid sizers ~ tea bags
Just over the standards ~ teapots
& finally our large and in charge ~ tea Urns

I was at the furniture store the other day and our salesman said he had one, then he said, "Well, I have a porky Yorkie!" I about died laughing, I said,.. no hun, you have a teapot!

kezza 07-29-2009 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by erickajm (Post 2730592)
I called him a Tea Urn

:lol tears

So now I will break it down:

Tinies ~ teacups
Mid sizers ~ tea bags
Just over the standards ~ teapots
& finally our large and in charge ~ tea Urns

I was at the furniture store the other day and our salesman said he had one, then he said, "Well, I have a porky Yorkie!" I about died laughing, I said,.. no hun, you have a teapot![/QUOTE]

LOL..thats so funny!:p

coolbar 07-29-2009 02:54 PM
and a standard going for a pee ?

A leaking teapot of course

angelakc 07-29-2009 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmdt (Post 2730249)
I know but everyone gets their feathers all ruffled up when they hear "teacup"
When someone comes on and says they have a big one everyone says, "aw a teapot" But if they come on and say they have a small one NO ONE says, "aw teacup"

Double standard???


i agree

erickajm 07-29-2009 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolbar (Post 2730598)
and a standard going for a pee ?

A leaking teapot of course


Too funny!

vlccairo 07-30-2009 12:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOY (Post 2730248)
Neither really bother me since I consider both of them a term of endearment. Actually I think I like those words much better than the terms we use to describe light and heavy people.

I think I' much rather be described as a teapot...LOL
You and me both, Toy! LOL

RachelandSadie 07-30-2009 01:12 PM
never heard the term teapot until now
 
I didn't even know you called the bigger ones teapots, how cute.

as for teacups, i was avoiding the breeders proclaiming to have them at all costs, i wanted a standard sized pup and i don't want it to be sick because it was too small or bred to be so small...in the old days, they called those the "runts" and they weren't MORE money, they were "less" money because of the commonness of health issues with being smaller than the rest of the litter and not getting as much milk supply.

there's my two cents worth! that's all i had

yorkie mad 07-30-2009 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2732089)
I didn't even know you called the bigger ones teapots, how cute.

as for teacups, i was avoiding the breeders proclaiming to have them at all costs, i wanted a standard sized pup and i don't want it to be sick because it was too small or bred to be so small...in the old days, they called those the "runts" and they weren't MORE money, they were "less" money because of the commonness of health issues with being smaller than the rest of the litter and not getting as much milk supply.

there's my two cents worth! that's all i had
:thumbup:Thats exactly what I said to my breeder when she charged me an extra £100 pound for Tia because she was smaller than the rest. Shes worth it though my little tea bag lol

RachelandSadie 07-30-2009 01:21 PM
i wanted to add that i didn't mean to offend anyone who might have a runt puppy, they are completely adorable and would steal my heart too, my cousins chose a runt on purpose because he was having a hard time getting picked out, and he's perfectly healthy and wonderful, he's a maltese named Georgie and i think he's like over 10 years old.

so sorry if anyone thought i was saying that runts aren't any good, it's not the size that matters it the fact that we love our pups no matter how teapot or teacup they are!!

coolbar 07-30-2009 01:25 PM
I have always been a sucker for the runts and the scruffy ones, I call these real dogs.

My younger bro has an english sheepdog, but as he is a sucker for the scruffs too, he also has a 15lb scruffy mongrel, ripper his name is, but what a lovely and intelligent dog, I think he is great.

yorkie mad 07-30-2009 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2732100)
i wanted to add that i didn't mean to offend anyone who might have a runt puppy, they are completely adorable and would steal my heart too, my cousins chose a runt on purpose because he was having a hard time getting picked out, and he's perfectly healthy and wonderful, he's a maltese named Georgie and i think he's like over 10 years old.

so sorry if anyone thought i was saying that runts aren't any good, it's not the size that matters it the fact that we love our pups no matter how teapot or teacup they are!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolbar (Post 2732106)
I have always been a sucker for the runts and the scruffy ones, I call these real dogs.

My younger bro has an english sheepdog, but as he is a sucker for the scruffs too, he also has a 15lb scruffy mongrel, ripper his name is, but what a lovely and intelligent dog, I think he is great.
a dogs a dog whatever you call it right? We all love them regardless. In fact sometimes they are better than people of course not better than YTers lol

RachelandSadie 07-30-2009 01:33 PM
and mutt dogs rock too
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkie mad (Post 2732115)
a dogs a dog whatever you call it right? We all love them regardless. In fact sometimes they are better than people of course not better than YTers lol
of course not!! lol, and you know, some people don't like the mutt dogs either, but sometimes those just make the best doggie friends in the world, so much love from rescuing one, if i had a fenced in yard and owned my own house, i'd prob. have several mutts running around!!

Julie1760 07-30-2009 01:34 PM
Myah is the runt of the litter....the rest of her littermates are around 6 lbs. She is just a little over 3 lbs. And she does get called runt from time to time.

When people as me if she is a teacup....I just say she is the runt of the litter, which is true.

I didn't pay more for her...actually she was given to me, because the breeder wanted to make sure she would be well cared for. I wish Myah would have been bigger, but she is very healthy!!!


Any of the "terms" to describe their sizes don't bother me. It only bothers me when the breeders are doing it on purpose and expect more money for the small ones.

yorkie mad 07-30-2009 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julie1760 (Post 2732121)
Myah is the runt of the litter....the rest of her littermates are around 6 lbs. She is just a little over 3 lbs. And she does get called runt from time to time.

When people as me if she is a teacup....I just say she is the runt of the litter, which is true.

I didn't pay more for her...actually she was given to me, because the breeder wanted to make sure she would be well cared for. I wish Myah would have been bigger, but she is very healthy!!!


Any of the "terms" to describe their sizes don't bother me. It only bothers me when the breeders are doing it on purpose and expect more money for the small ones.

:thumbup:A big thumbs up from one Julie to another

JJinjersey 07-30-2009 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redvalaria (Post 2730297)
you know, i agree with a lot of the posters about how teacup is a marketing ploy, teapot, isn't. But i think it is more than that.

Its almost like, on a rap record, an artist can drop the "n word" and no one gets all offended, because a) he is a member of that group, b) he usually isn't using it to cause offense or be a slur and c) its use is not seen as negative within that subsection of the community.

Key is c, by the way.

Here at yt, we all are so conscious of the teacup being a misleading term, used by unscrupulous breeders trying to get more money & potentially doing harm to the breed by intentionally breeding overly small dogs. Whereas we can say "teapot", in that rap star way, cause they are our dogs, we love them madly and no one is trying to make a big trend out of it.

So....that's my 4 cents (cause i have a teapot and 2cents aren't enough!!):rolleyes:
what?

PANAMA69 07-30-2009 04:27 PM
This is so weird, I was just thinking about this thread yesterday, I do not understand either why is ok to use teapot and teacup not, lots of people when sees Melody said oh a teacup try to correct them but some people just don't want to hear it, they look at you like :rolleyes: so I do tell them if they see open to it, and if I have the time lol, to tell you the true here in Cali is very common the "T" word, it doesn't bother me as much anymore:animal-pa


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