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Amazing Yorkies 07-28-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOY (Post 2729008)
To the OP,

I think I am probably much older than many of those responding to you in this thread and may have a much different perspective for you.

We haven't had our Yorkie all that long. She's 7 months old today so we've had her 4 months. Frankly, it seems like only yesterday that we got her and yet at the same time, I can't remember what our house was like without her. She has brought laughter and joy with her very presence and has brightened our very "retired" lives with her antics.

I don't even intend to give advice about puppies since I probably don't know more than about 4 months more than you (LOL) although like you, I read lots of books and lots of posts before we brought our girl home.

What has alarmed me in the thread (in addition to the comments that border on insensitive and rude) has been the advice concerning your parents. My parents would have been opposed to my bringing an "inside" dog to their home, too. Notice the past tense.

What would I have done? I don't have to pause or think this through even though I love our puppy immensely. I would honor my parents' wishes. Even though I was reared (raised, really) in that home and it was the location of my childhood, when I left as an adult, I did not assume that I was a voting member of that household any longer.

I know that I will not be able to express this with the intensity that my heart feels, but I would give anything to have the opportunity to make arrangements for Taffy so that I could go visit my parents. They are both deceased and I still miss them with a raw grief that no puppy can entirely heal. Part of our reason for getting our Yorkie was to help heal the grief of losing my very last family member.

I know it's a moot point right now since your puppy needs shots, etc. but I would encourage you to find a kennel you like or a pet-loving friend or relative that you trust to keep your puppy if your parents do not change their outlook over time. I cannot imagine anything sadder than to think that a child's bond with a parent was damaged because of a pet regardless of how beloved that pet is.

Our parents sacrificed so much for us. I think it is such a small repayment for us to honor and respect them. In the natural scheme of things, there will come a time when we no longer have those parents' presences in our lives. The depth of that loss is great enough without regret that we lost precious time with them because we couldn't bring an animal to stay within their home.

I love our puppy so much and hope that you will find as much joy in yours as we have found in ours. I only wish I had the opportunity to demonstrate to my parents once again how very much I love them.

I would encourage you to remember that there are many people in the world (relatives included) who view our Yorkies as the animals they are. This does not make them less human or hateful people, it only makes them people with different opinions. (I don't think it takes a Yorkie owner very long to forget the basic biological fact that a Yorkie is an animal. I think you'll understand after a couple of days with yours...LOL)

My parents were both smokers yet never smoked in my home because they respected my smoke-free house. Respect is a mutual thing but I learned it from my parents. I've never believed that respect and manners were dependent upon age nor just a Southern way of life. I just hope it's a value that continues into the next generations. With all the attention given to the natural resources we leave the generations to come, I hope we don't fail to consider the human resources they also need to treasure.

I want to believe that our love for our Yorkie, Taffy, enriches and expands our lives instead of shrinking and diminishing our relationships with people. There is no way I can become a "love me, love my Yorkie" person because it would make me such a hypocrite. You see, I have dear friends with cats and were I to have to love their cats to be their friend, I would fail miserably!

What a beautiful post! I am just weeks, or maybe days from losing my Mom to Liver Cancer. You made me want to run back and visit her again for another hug, although I just got home. Taffy is a very lucky little Yorkie!

Gingergirlsmom 07-28-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOY (Post 2729008)
To the OP,

I think I am probably much older than many of those responding to you in this thread and may have a much different perspective for you.

We haven't had our Yorkie all that long. She's 7 months old today so we've had her 4 months. Frankly, it seems like only yesterday that we got her and yet at the same time, I can't remember what our house was like without her. She has brought laughter and joy with her very presence and has brightened our very "retired" lives with her antics.

I don't even intend to give advice about puppies since I probably don't know more than about 4 months more than you (LOL) although like you, I read lots of books and lots of posts before we brought our girl home.

What has alarmed me in the thread (in addition to the comments that border on insensitive and rude) has been the advice concerning your parents. My parents would have been opposed to my bringing an "inside" dog to their home, too. Notice the past tense.

What would I have done? I don't have to pause or think this through even though I love our puppy immensely. I would honor my parents' wishes. Even though I was reared (raised, really) in that home and it was the location of my childhood, when I left as an adult, I did not assume that I was a voting member of that household any longer.

I know that I will not be able to express this with the intensity that my heart feels, but I would give anything to have the opportunity to make arrangements for Taffy so that I could go visit my parents. They are both deceased and I still miss them with a raw grief that no puppy can entirely heal. Part of our reason for getting our Yorkie was to help heal the grief of losing my very last family member.

I know it's a moot point right now since your puppy needs shots, etc. but I would encourage you to find a kennel you like or a pet-loving friend or relative that you trust to keep your puppy if your parents do not change their outlook over time. I cannot imagine anything sadder than to think that a child's bond with a parent was damaged because of a pet regardless of how beloved that pet is.

Our parents sacrificed so much for us. I think it is such a small repayment for us to honor and respect them. In the natural scheme of things, there will come a time when we no longer have those parents' presences in our lives. The depth of that loss is great enough without regret that we lost precious time with them because we couldn't bring an animal to stay within their home.

I love our puppy so much and hope that you will find as much joy in yours as we have found in ours. I only wish I had the opportunity to demonstrate to my parents once again how very much I love them.

I would encourage you to remember that there are many people in the world (relatives included) who view our Yorkies as the animals they are. This does not make them less human or hateful people, it only makes them people with different opinions. (I don't think it takes a Yorkie owner very long to forget the basic biological fact that a Yorkie is an animal. I think you'll understand after a couple of days with yours...LOL)

My parents were both smokers yet never smoked in my home because they respected my smoke-free house. Respect is a mutual thing but I learned it from my parents. I've never believed that respect and manners were dependent upon age nor just a Southern way of life. I just hope it's a value that continues into the next generations. With all the attention given to the natural resources we leave the generations to come, I hope we don't fail to consider the human resources they also need to treasure.

I want to believe that our love for our Yorkie, Taffy, enriches and expands our lives instead of shrinking and diminishing our relationships with people. There is no way I can become a "love me, love my Yorkie" person because it would make me such a hypocrite. You see, I have dear friends with cats and were I to have to love their cats to be their friend, I would fail miserably!

Beautifully said!!!:)

MaddiesMommie 07-28-2009 03:53 PM

I have been following this thread and find it hard to believe all the turns it has taken. I just wanted to say to TOY, you seem like a very nice person and your post, I felt, was wonderful. Although I don't like being reminded Maddie is a D-O-G. :p

Britster 07-28-2009 04:46 PM

TOY, beautifully written.

To the OP... I'm sorry you're feeling overwhelmed by peoples responses. I think sometimes people on this site forget that newbies come to YT not really knowing much of anything and come here to LEARN, not to be bashed. It's difficult when you're on a forum full of mostly females to not get differentiating opinions which can sometimes be harsh and uncalled for.

I just wanted to personally say... Congrats on the pup and welcome to the world of Yorkies!!!

TOY 07-28-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddiesMommie (Post 2729077)
I have been following this thread and find it hard to believe all the turns it has taken. I just wanted to say to TOY, you seem like a very nice person and your post, I felt, was wonderful. Although I don't like being reminded Maddie is a D-O-G. :p


LOL...I know! It's especially weird to write that today when Taffy just initiated her first "conversation" with us...LOL... I kid you not.

To Amazing Yorkies, I am so sorry. I cannot begin to tell you how much you will miss her...I think that regardless of your age, life changes almost beyond recognition when you lose a parent. I pray your Mother has a peaceful passing and that you allow yourself to rejoice in her life even as you grieve. God bless.

Rerun201 07-28-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2729140)
TOY, beautifully written.

To the OP... I'm sorry you're feeling overwhelmed by peoples responses. I think sometimes people on this site forget that newbies come to YT not really knowing much of anything and come here to LEARN, not to be bashed. It's difficult when you're on a forum full of mostly females to not get differentiating opinions which can sometimes be harsh and uncalled for.

I just wanted to personally say... Congrats on the pup and welcome to the world of Yorkies!!!

We do have a way of expressing our opinions, and sometimes not in the best way. I have sent an apology to Rachel and she has graciously accepted it. I did not mean to bash her or be hateful in anyway. We are all here because of our love of yorkies - sometimes we get a little passionate about it!

yorkie_mama22 07-28-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2728922)
My thoughts exactly. Kind of like the kettle calling the pot black!!!!!!!!


Hmm so much for no negative comments, if you have issues with me PM me yourself! I don't care if you don't agree with me or think I am a bad person for my previous ownership of a yorkie!

I already cleared my posts up with the OP and she seems to understand where I was coming from I wasn't attacking her or TRYING to be rude, I was simply trying to help her out, I got a dog that was from a PUPPYMILL this is what this was about so excuse me if I have experience with owning a puppymill dog and what comes with it, this has nothing to do with MY OWN mistakes so get off your high horse, I bet everybody makes mistakes! At least I can admit what I did wrong and try to take it from there.

yorkie_mama22 07-28-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 2728888)
i actually didn't see the bottom part where you addressed me for some reason...hmmm...

that sounded a lot less negative when i did see it though,

i try pretty hard not to argue, but i've been relentlessly attacked over my own personal choices and decisions regarding my puppie so i guess i'm getting a little over reactive about it.

i'm just trying to be nice to everyone and respect them, and i wish they'd do the same for me. and yea we're not going up to see my parents even if they did let Sadie come in the house, it's too soon, but i still need the advice about how to get him to love her in the future..he's even said that he thinks dogs shouldn't wear sweaters because it takes away their ability to adapt to the cold, i tried to explain about them not growing the undercoat, but he wanted to argue with me so my mom whispered "drop-it" and i did...must be where i get it huhh?? ;) j/k i really don't like to argue, i just have to defend myself a lot in life, dad and now YT, it's tiring, think i'll go make some food for Sadie with my auntie and see Bailey


My mother thinks dressing dogs is ridiculous as well and even putting bows in the hair. If I ever mentioned putting clothes on the dog she would simply make some kind of comment like "its a dog not a child". I would just brush it off and say well mine gets cold in the winter and thats what I did, put sweaters on her in the cold weather, but I never dressed her up in the summer time, its really hot here and I'm sure the extra clothes wouldn't work. I think a big thing with parents is, even though you move out they still kinda feel like they are responsible for you and maybe sometimes may not agree with your decisions. It's hard and Ive been on my own for 3 years now. Sometimes my mom tries to tell me what to do but I try to stick up for myself and say well I think I am doing the right thing. I am sure your dad will get over the sweater thing! At least winter is still a ways away!

mommaofmia 07-28-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOY (Post 2729008)
To the OP,

I think I am probably much older than many of those responding to you in this thread and may have a much different perspective for you.

We haven't had our Yorkie all that long. She's 7 months old today so we've had her 4 months. Frankly, it seems like only yesterday that we got her and yet at the same time, I can't remember what our house was like without her. She has brought laughter and joy with her very presence and has brightened our very "retired" lives with her antics.

I don't even intend to give advice about puppies since I probably don't know more than about 4 months more than you (LOL) although like you, I read lots of books and lots of posts before we brought our girl home.

What has alarmed me in the thread (in addition to the comments that border on insensitive and rude) has been the advice concerning your parents. My parents would have been opposed to my bringing an "inside" dog to their home, too. Notice the past tense.

What would I have done? I don't have to pause or think this through even though I love our puppy immensely. I would honor my parents' wishes. Even though I was reared (raised, really) in that home and it was the location of my childhood, when I left as an adult, I did not assume that I was a voting member of that household any longer.

I know that I will not be able to express this with the intensity that my heart feels, but I would give anything to have the opportunity to make arrangements for Taffy so that I could go visit my parents. They are both deceased and I still miss them with a raw grief that no puppy can entirely heal. Part of our reason for getting our Yorkie was to help heal the grief of losing my very last family member.

I know it's a moot point right now since your puppy needs shots, etc. but I would encourage you to find a kennel you like or a pet-loving friend or relative that you trust to keep your puppy if your parents do not change their outlook over time. I cannot imagine anything sadder than to think that a child's bond with a parent was damaged because of a pet regardless of how beloved that pet is.

Our parents sacrificed so much for us. I think it is such a small repayment for us to honor and respect them. In the natural scheme of things, there will come a time when we no longer have those parents' presences in our lives. The depth of that loss is great enough without regret that we lost precious time with them because we couldn't bring an animal to stay within their home.

I love our puppy so much and hope that you will find as much joy in yours as we have found in ours. I only wish I had the opportunity to demonstrate to my parents once again how very much I love them.

I would encourage you to remember that there are many people in the world (relatives included) who view our Yorkies as the animals they are. This does not make them less human or hateful people, it only makes them people with different opinions. (I don't think it takes a Yorkie owner very long to forget the basic biological fact that a Yorkie is an animal. I think you'll understand after a couple of days with yours...LOL)

My parents were both smokers yet never smoked in my home because they respected my smoke-free house. Respect is a mutual thing but I learned it from my parents. I've never believed that respect and manners were dependent upon age nor just a Southern way of life. I just hope it's a value that continues into the next generations. With all the attention given to the natural resources we leave the generations to come, I hope we don't fail to consider the human resources they also need to treasure.

I want to believe that our love for our Yorkie, Taffy, enriches and expands our lives instead of shrinking and diminishing our relationships with people. There is no way I can become a "love me, love my Yorkie" person because it would make me such a hypocrite. You see, I have dear friends with cats and were I to have to love their cats to be their friend, I would fail miserably!

Very well said...... I applaud you.. And like you, I love my Mia sooo much... She is so much a part of our home......

sarahheartmaddy 07-28-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOY (Post 2729008)
To the OP,

I think I am probably much older than many of those responding to you in this thread and may have a much different perspective for you.

We haven't had our Yorkie all that long. She's 7 months old today so we've had her 4 months. Frankly, it seems like only yesterday that we got her and yet at the same time, I can't remember what our house was like without her. She has brought laughter and joy with her very presence and has brightened our very "retired" lives with her antics.

I don't even intend to give advice about puppies since I probably don't know more than about 4 months more than you (LOL) although like you, I read lots of books and lots of posts before we brought our girl home.

What has alarmed me in the thread (in addition to the comments that border on insensitive and rude) has been the advice concerning your parents. My parents would have been opposed to my bringing an "inside" dog to their home, too. Notice the past tense.

What would I have done? I don't have to pause or think this through even though I love our puppy immensely. I would honor my parents' wishes. Even though I was reared (raised, really) in that home and it was the location of my childhood, when I left as an adult, I did not assume that I was a voting member of that household any longer.

I know that I will not be able to express this with the intensity that my heart feels, but I would give anything to have the opportunity to make arrangements for Taffy so that I could go visit my parents. They are both deceased and I still miss them with a raw grief that no puppy can entirely heal. Part of our reason for getting our Yorkie was to help heal the grief of losing my very last family member.

I know it's a moot point right now since your puppy needs shots, etc. but I would encourage you to find a kennel you like or a pet-loving friend or relative that you trust to keep your puppy if your parents do not change their outlook over time. I cannot imagine anything sadder than to think that a child's bond with a parent was damaged because of a pet regardless of how beloved that pet is.

Our parents sacrificed so much for us. I think it is such a small repayment for us to honor and respect them. In the natural scheme of things, there will come a time when we no longer have those parents' presences in our lives. The depth of that loss is great enough without regret that we lost precious time with them because we couldn't bring an animal to stay within their home.

I love our puppy so much and hope that you will find as much joy in yours as we have found in ours. I only wish I had the opportunity to demonstrate to my parents once again how very much I love them.

I would encourage you to remember that there are many people in the world (relatives included) who view our Yorkies as the animals they are. This does not make them less human or hateful people, it only makes them people with different opinions. (I don't think it takes a Yorkie owner very long to forget the basic biological fact that a Yorkie is an animal. I think you'll understand after a couple of days with yours...LOL)

My parents were both smokers yet never smoked in my home because they respected my smoke-free house. Respect is a mutual thing but I learned it from my parents. I've never believed that respect and manners were dependent upon age nor just a Southern way of life. I just hope it's a value that continues into the next generations. With all the attention given to the natural resources we leave the generations to come, I hope we don't fail to consider the human resources they also need to treasure.

I want to believe that our love for our Yorkie, Taffy, enriches and expands our lives instead of shrinking and diminishing our relationships with people. There is no way I can become a "love me, love my Yorkie" person because it would make me such a hypocrite. You see, I have dear friends with cats and were I to have to love their cats to be their friend, I would fail miserably!


As usual, you speak the way you treat everyone on this forum... amazing. I appreciate your posts more than you can understand. I think this was the perfect word of advice to the OP and I hope she makes a good choice.

Thank you again for bringing such joy to YT, you really are a blessing.

RachelandSadie 07-28-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOY (Post 2729008)
To the OP,

I think I am probably much older than many of those responding to you in this thread and may have a much different perspective for you.

We haven't had our Yorkie all that long. She's 7 months old today so we've had her 4 months. Frankly, it seems like only yesterday that we got her and yet at the same time, I can't remember what our house was like without her. She has brought laughter and joy with her very presence and has brightened our very "retired" lives with her antics.

I don't even intend to give advice about puppies since I probably don't know more than about 4 months more than you (LOL) although like you, I read lots of books and lots of posts before we brought our girl home.

What has alarmed me in the thread (in addition to the comments that border on insensitive and rude) has been the advice concerning your parents. My parents would have been opposed to my bringing an "inside" dog to their home, too. Notice the past tense.

What would I have done? I don't have to pause or think this through even though I love our puppy immensely. I would honor my parents' wishes. Even though I was reared (raised, really) in that home and it was the location of my childhood, when I left as an adult, I did not assume that I was a voting member of that household any longer.

I know that I will not be able to express this with the intensity that my heart feels, but I would give anything to have the opportunity to make arrangements for Taffy so that I could go visit my parents. They are both deceased and I still miss them with a raw grief that no puppy can entirely heal. Part of our reason for getting our Yorkie was to help heal the grief of losing my very last family member.

I know it's a moot point right now since your puppy needs shots, etc. but I would encourage you to find a kennel you like or a pet-loving friend or relative that you trust to keep your puppy if your parents do not change their outlook over time. I cannot imagine anything sadder than to think that a child's bond with a parent was damaged because of a pet regardless of how beloved that pet is.

Our parents sacrificed so much for us. I think it is such a small repayment for us to honor and respect them. In the natural scheme of things, there will come a time when we no longer have those parents' presences in our lives. The depth of that loss is great enough without regret that we lost precious time with them because we couldn't bring an animal to stay within their home.

I love our puppy so much and hope that you will find as much joy in yours as we have found in ours. I only wish I had the opportunity to demonstrate to my parents once again how very much I love them.

I would encourage you to remember that there are many people in the world (relatives included) who view our Yorkies as the animals they are. This does not make them less human or hateful people, it only makes them people with different opinions. (I don't think it takes a Yorkie owner very long to forget the basic biological fact that a Yorkie is an animal. I think you'll understand after a couple of days with yours...LOL)

My parents were both smokers yet never smoked in my home because they respected my smoke-free house. Respect is a mutual thing but I learned it from my parents. I've never believed that respect and manners were dependent upon age nor just a Southern way of life. I just hope it's a value that continues into the next generations. With all the attention given to the natural resources we leave the generations to come, I hope we don't fail to consider the human resources they also need to treasure.

I want to believe that our love for our Yorkie, Taffy, enriches and expands our lives instead of shrinking and diminishing our relationships with people. There is no way I can become a "love me, love my Yorkie" person because it would make me such a hypocrite. You see, I have dear friends with cats and were I to have to love their cats to be their friend, I would fail miserably!

thank you, that was wonderful to read and God Bless you and your family.

RachelandSadie 07-28-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2729047)
Unfortunately, Missouri puppy mills are a very profitable industry and legislators don't enact laws to restrict it. Even existing laws aren't enforced as as the facilities are not being inspected regularly as required by law. That's why the state has earned the shameful nickname of The Puppy Mill Capital of the United States. :thumbdown

Puppy Mills - Missouri State Auditor reports

i had actually read that exact article, i'm hoping they do more to check up on breeders and places!!

Karrie 07-28-2009 06:41 PM

Wow - what a thread! I'm reading it for the first time. (I also read her recent thread about getting the puppy sooner than she'd would have wanted) Yep, lots of twists, turns and not-so-kind posts - but I see this thread has finally taken a turn for the good. Toy, thank you so much for the wonderful, well-worded and thoughtful post -it was exactly what we needed!

Rachel is my niece and I recommended YT her. I told her that it was wonderful site with lots of information. I have since found myself, more than once, apologizing to her for making this recommendation. I am embarrassed on how some could have lashed out at an obviously young person who has simply reached out for advice. I applaud Rachel for her replies and keeping her cool. She has done soooo much research - more than most. However, keep in mind, that the decisions are Rachel's and Rachel's alone.

I want to thank those members who have posted helpful and supportive advice. They understand the spirit of YT.

miabellaamoure 07-28-2009 06:46 PM

My vote is for your Daddy's decision!
 
Oh my...I understand how your heart is set on going home to visit family & the county fair but...trust me please...this is NOT the time for traveling with or without your new puppy! :(

The ONLY recommendation I could offer if you are set on going ahead with your travel plans is to perhaps contact your Breeder and see if you can have her keep your baby till your return. That would be the ONLY person I would trust with a new puppy especially at 9-10 weeks which, honestly is too young to even have been away from its Momma.:confused:

At first when I read your OP, I was thinking your Daddy was awnry like mine...lol...but, now that I see your puppy's age...you've got one very smart Daddy and I have to side with his stand on NO puppy visit! ;)

As others here have mentioned all the risks to your puppy traveling at such a young age...I wouldn't even think of taking a chance like this.

:aimeeyorkHugs:aimeeyork

RachelandSadie 07-28-2009 06:50 PM

thanks so much aunt Karrie for all the wonderful things you have done for us!! I really really appreciate it, and btw where did you get your flintstones vitamins without sweetner, i can't find any at walgreens!!


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