True, I did point it out. But I insinuated that the prices were insane not the girl. And no it isn't my business what anyone pays, but this is a FORUM and bringing up topics and discussing them is the Forum's function. I wasn't as mad about anyone paying the money as I was the breeders charging the money.

And yes people do pay thousands for pure breeds. That is because they are paying probably for breeding and showing purposes. Most papered/purebreds are champions for that kind of money.

I am sorry that you have missed my point. You are entitled to say what you want as am I. But the whole point of the post was that breeders were cashing in on these mixed breeds because it has become trendy. I didn't say they weren't being treated and/or loved any more or less.

Since I started this post, I am now finishing it.

I just have one question where did you buy bure breed dogs with papers for 300-350?

I found breeders that were selling. Each dog was between in the ballpark of 300 - 350. I don't have yorkies. The papered dogs that I have are 2 chi's, a Pom and a German Shorthair Pointer.

thanks for answering my question.

Owner of a "Chorkie" !!
 

Like you I am personally unable to pay the high price for Yorkies, especially in the Phoenix area. About 15-20 years ago, had the good fortune to be the owner of both a male and female yorkie, both quite small in size. Wanting one again for all these years, a mix seemed to be the way to go as I am on a fixed income. Delighted to find a "Chorkie" girl! Mother purebred yorkie and father 3/4 yorkie and 1/4 chihuahua. Looks and acts just like my long ago yorkie pair. Quite the personality!!! She is 7 months old and newly spayed and her growth is leveling off at about 9 pounds. Could not ask for a better companion!!!

I agree with this.. I didn't even know that this was a designer breed..i just thought it was a cute name porkie and i didn't pay anywhere near 1000 dollars.. i only payed 300 and totally worth it.. if someone were to steal my Oreo and ask for $5000 i'd gladly pay it because NO one can replace my oreo.. he's priceless

I don't think that it really matters what breed, what price as long as they are in good homes and are happy..

Oh, I think that one's gonna have to have a new label...Chorkie sounds too Chihuahua and she's only 1/8th.....howbout Yoryorkchi or Moreyork? Whatever the label, I'm sure she's delightful.

if people don't like purposely mixing breeds.. isn't it funny that these so called purebred dogs are actually inbred mixed breeds?

I call purebred dogs inbred mixed breeds cause that is exactly what they are. You just take different breeds mix them, inbreed for a few generations and there you have a purebred.

Have you read this:
http://www.netpets.com/dogs/referen.../bragg.html#toc

I totally understand you! I got my "designer dog" at PetsMart one Saturday when I saw him all lonely and scared in the very back in a pen from the Humane Society and let me tell you that is the BEST dog I've ever had. And he only cost me $40. And if I had to, I would have paid more. But yeah. I work in a grooming shop/boutique and we have people come in with their new "designer dogs" such as the just now popular golden-doodle that they paid hundreds for. I don't get it. lol Of course I'm sure Rescue people look at us the same way. Why pay so much money for these purebreds and keep people breeding when we can rescue some poor soul's life? It kinda goes both ways. Either way, in my heart, I love my yorkie and my "mutt" just the same. I wouldn't trade one for the other

It does make me mad that they breed 2 breeds and call them hybrid. They think they can give them a fun sounding fancy name and call them hybrids to rip people off. That ticks me off! That what I am against. Its not right to give something a lot of hype to fool people into paying more.

What does that mean they are "not a pure dog"? Yorkies are mixed breeds just as all of the most popular breeds right now are. I find it just plain "wrong" to somehow place a greater value on a dog who can be in a show ring than one who is born to parents who are different from each other.

I also learned and use the term "all american" to describe these beautiful babies and for me, I do not discriminate, as all dogs have value and are priceless for the love they give.

Also there are plenty of vets who will stand by the fact that all americans do have fewer health problems than purebreds.

Precious is Priceless!!!! :D

Amen to that.. purebred or not, my dogs are still precious to me.

Well this topic has been touched enough but I'm just going to say I have a "Designer Dog" and a purebreed and I look at them the same... They are priceless it's easier said than do to go to the pound and find the MUTT you are looking for especially if oyu want a puppy!! I looked on petfinder first and there were NONE even close and if there were they were 6 yrs or older... So I think ALL dogs are precious no matter what breed they are... You find me a MUTT as cute as mine and with such a personality at the shelter and I will rush there to go get them!!!

in my opionion, everyone thinks their dog is worth what they pay for it. whether it be a yorkie or a labra-she-chi-malti-poo. we all value our animals no matter what and different people like different things. as long as you have a reputable breeder , i dont see what difference it would make as long as your paying for a healthy speciman of what you desire.

"hybrid" ... ever heard of "hybrid vigor"? when yorkies were first established from welsh, scottish, paisley and all the other terriers that came to produce our beloved babies, did you ever think that it would be a controversy like it is today? nope, not back then. i say to each their own and my hat is off to any one trying to produce a new breed to the best of their ability. i do not however promote those trying to sell these animals just because of the name "designer dogs" dont get me started on this because my best friend for 20 yrs is trying to establish a new "hybrid" breed. done with the upmost care and research.

Perfectly said..I couldn't agree with you more. I sometimes feel people favor pure bred dogs over the "mixed" ...like theyre better. It's like comparing people...wealthy with the poor/not so wealthy. They are the same and should be treated equally. :)

Im sorry but I found the following VERY offensive. I dont know how you couldn't see it as sounding offensive??? :confused: I know your annoyed or bothered by this but why couldn't you just leave your reply in the "porkie thread" and not make up a whole knew post about this? Its almost like you wanted to start controversy or something..I dont know. I dont want to seem annoying but I agree with the owner of Biddy....

"These dogs are MUTTS"
"I can't believe that people are paying 500, 600 or even 1500 for a MUTT!!!"
"In the end, no matter what you call them, the bottom line is that they are mutts"

I understand what you meant, you didn't feel a controversy should've ever started. But I have to say I don't think at all she should have kept it in the other post, as a matter of fact I think she should've started a new thread rather than responding in the other. Someone came on looking for advice and in my opinion she got slammed and you know that isn't the kind of advice she was looking for. Has she even responded since then? I think that this is the one topic we all need to find a little restraint on. There isn't another topic that people will get so offensive about. I've seen people talk about buying a puppy from a pet store and others will politely advice them not too. Or someone will have bought a puppy from a pet store and others may say what could happen but still in a polite way. We've had very polite discussions on puppy mills of differrent sorts. Different methods of training can be controversial but when discussed remain polite. But the minute someone mentions mixed breds pow its a big deal and things are said that are offensive. And really a little controversy doesn't bother me a bit. This thread was started to discuss this topic so great I'm completely fine with anything being said in it but when someone else starts a thread asking for something and you feel that you have something to add, just make sure it wouldn't offend you if you were in their shoes.

This wasn't directed at you Nicole, I just read where you wrote about the other thread and had an opinion of that, not saying you have done any of this.

Well said. :thumbup: We need to be careful not to insult new members who come on YT to ask for advice. If we want to help these dogs (mixed or pure bred) out in the long run, it's our responsibility to politely educate prospective buyers -- not slam them for asking reasonable questions.

I agree with you - I think many posts were only talking about the prices - We all love all yorkies and/or mixes... and all are welcome - there are way too many cuties on here to ever say anything against a mix - they are just as special to us....I think alot of the comments were more towards the high prices that seem to be everywhere now.

Yeah I completley understand what you mean..i totally agree with you.
"just make sure it wouldn't offend you if you were in their shoes."

This MUTT thing has got to stop !
 

I Totally agree with biddys mom it's offensive! & I myself would like to better the yorkie breed one day! But to down mixed breed dogs is wrong

BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD, THAT OWNS A YORKIE TODAY RIGHT HERE ,RIGHT NOW... YES YOU SPECIAL PEOPLE HERE ON YORKIE TALK WOULD NOT HAVE A FORUM, SPECIALTY STORES ,YORKIE BOOKS, SITES OR BREEDING PROGRAM IN PLACE IF IT WASN'T FOR WHAT YOU CALL A MUTT!!!!

ALL GREAT THING STARTED OUT IN CONTROVERSY! INCLUDING YOUR NOW PRECIOUS PUREBRED YORKIE WHO'S FOUNDATION IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN UN-REGISTERED, UN-AKC RECOGNIZED MAN MADE MIXED BREED DOG!

YES THERE ARE UMPTEENTH NUMBERS OF PERFECTLY ADOPTABLE MIX BREED & PUREBRED DOGS IN THE SHELTER AND WISH I COULD ADOPT THEM ALL BUT I SO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT MUTT THIS AND PURPOSELY BREEDING A MIX THAT .IT'S HYPOCRITICAL TO SAY THAT THE ONLY PUREBREDS THAT ARE HERE TODAY WILL BE THE ONLY ONES HERE 10 YRS OR EVEN 50YRS FROM NOW?? FOR ALL WE KNOW IT COULD WELL BE THE 1ST YORKIE-POO PRANCING IN THE EUKANUBA TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS ON ANIMAL PLANET!

MOST BREEDER HAVE THE HISTORY OF THE YORKIE POSTED PLAN ON THERE SITE FOR ALL TO SEE

HERES WHAT IT SAY JUST AS PLAN AS THE MUTT IT STARTED OUT AS BEFORE IT WAS A RECOGNIZED BREED ! AND EVEN IN IT HISTORY IT WAS NOT CALLED A MUTT BUT A CROSS A MAN MADE CROSS ! YORKSHIRE TERRIERS OF TODAY DONT EVEN LOOK LIKE THEY DID THEN ! SO DONT TELL ME IT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF EVALUTION :thumbdown

Breed History
HOW THE BREED WAS FORMED
Today's Yorkshire Terrier is very different from the early Yorkshire Terriers of the North of England. There are varying accounts of the origins of this breed and its development. I have tried to give the most accurate, and most widely agreed upon history of the Yorkshire Terrier assembled from books and publications written be reliable and experienced fanciers of the breed in the UK.
Before 1750, most British people worked in agriculture. The onset of the Industrial Revolution brought great changes to family life. In Yorkshire, small communities grew up around coal mines, textile mills and factories. People were drawn to these areas to seek work from as far away as Scotland. They brought with them a breed known as the Clydesdale Terrier, or Paisley Terrier. These were primarily working dogs, much larger than today's Yorkies, and were used for catching rats and other small mammals.

These terriers were inevitably crossed with other types of terrier, probably the English Black and Tan Toy Terrier, and the Skye Terrier; it is also thought that at some stage the Maltese Terrier was crossed with these breeds to help produce long coats. As the outline of the Maltese resembles that of many of today's Yorkies, this is very likely. Unfortunately, no records in the form of Pedigrees exist to confirm these crosses :eek: (possibly because of the poor level of literacy in these times), but a great deal is known about the type of people who bred them, and there can be no doubt that early breeders had a very clear idea of the type of dogs they were attempting to produce(HHMMM :confused: . We can see in today's Yorkies how strongly the terrier temperament has been retained.

Early Yorkshire Terriers and Breeders
One of the most famous early Yorkies was Huddersfield Ben, bred by a Mr. Eastwood and owned by Mr. M.A. Foster. Huddersfield Ben was born in 1865 and died in 1871, and can be said to be the father of the modern Yorkie. In his day "Ben" was a very popular stud dog who won many prizes in the show ring, and had tremendous influence in setting breed type.
In 1874 the first Yorkies were registered in the British Kennel Club stud book. They were referred to as "Broken Haired Scottish Terriers" or "Yorkshire Terriers", until 1886, when the Kennel Club recognised the Yorkshire Terrier as an individual breed. The first Yorkshire Terrier breed club was formed in 1898. During these early years, one who greatly influenced the breed was Lady Edith Wyndham-Dawson. Lady Edith was secretary of the Yorkshire Terrier Club for some time and did much early work for the improvement of the breed. Later, a Miss Palmer, who was Lady Edith's kennel maid, started her own Yorkie kennel under the "Winpal" prefix. When Lady Edith returned to Ireland at the start of World War I, Miss Palmer went to work for Mrs. Crookshank of the famous Johnstounburn prefix, a name with a long list of champions, which is now in the care of Daphne Hillman, who was entrusted with this prefix, and still uses it along with her own Yorkfold prefix.

Many others have worked very hard since these early years to improve this breed, and to these breeders much is owed. Many of their early dogs became the foundation stock of kennels in North America and elsewhere.

Yorkies Today
The Yorkshire Terrier now flourishes throughout the world and the early breeders who were instrumental in producing the diminutive toy terrier of today would surely be astounded at the success of this delightful breed. In 1932 only 300 Yorkies were registered with the British Kennel Club, in 1957 the number was 2313, and in the 1970's Yorkies were the most popular breed in Britain. This trend continued until 1990 with a record of 25,665 Yorkies registered. However, this figure has now begun to drop, and in 1994 there were 12343 registrations, with the Yorkie being recorded as the 7th most popular breed.

I am offended too. I own a yorkie/maltese mix, (I guess a MUTT). I paid $250 and he is soo worth it. I LOVE him and would pay more for him if I had to.......... I think I am going to stop there.

I paid the same for my purebreed yorkie.

I couldn't agree more!
 

Great post!

I am offended as well, the best animal I have ever had is a mixed breed and she is the most affectionate dog I have ever been around. I have adopted dogs from a local shelter, and they were great dogs, but people have their reasons for not doing that...and no one else knows what that reason might have been. I have seen people pay for a mixed breed and I agree with everyone else that has said that the amount of love these dogs bring is priceless. I'm sorry that some of you have a problem with people like me and other people I know, but you know what..it's my money and my life not yours!

such a controversial thread and I don't want hurt feelings, but I'd have to agree.

My soo called mutt came from a vet. I dont think that vets are irresponsible when it comes to animals. She is a very nice lady and I am offended that she is called "irresposible" when she is not at all just because she did not breed two yorkies together, it is NOT despicable. :mad:

Like I said...a controversial subject and feelings will get hurt. :( this thread should be closed.