Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2554533)

I absolutely respect this because I understand the position from where your opinion is coming from (political).

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To others - I think what is making this confusing is that people are still slamming the euthanasia/death rate - and that's why some people are asking if the article was even read and/or understood.

I'm not sure where to go from here, other than to ask - since the death rate is so troublesome, what would folks have PETA do? Would you rather they rescue these near-death, totally-beyond-treatment animals and force them to stay alive so the animal can die an excruciating and prolonged, but natural, death? Just so that PETA has a more acceptable death rate?

Look...I have no issues w/ folks who just don't want to support PETA, I get it - feel free to support what feels right. But putting down animals who are in a tortured physical state of health, who are beyond repair, is the kindest thing that can be done for these animals - and I support PETA for being stuck with this awful job of rescuing the worst of the worst. I have a lot of empathy for those people on the front lines who rescue these animals and have to make these decisions. It saddens me to have what they do criticized and misunderstood, but I do understand where that comes from - I do understand why PETA is not an easy organization for some folks to accept.

Originally Posted by straightsilk (Post 2555731)

IMHO, this is blatant exploitation. They play on the emotions of those of us who love our pets passionately for the purposes of fund raising and politics. To read Newkirk's article, you would think she was the only one in the US who could end a life humanely. I think there are 10s of thousands of Euthanasia Techs in the country who might disagree. The vast majority do their jobs with competence, compassion, respect and profound reverence. The life they end will never again suffer.

I was slow to understand that PETA changed, and I feel duped by them. I was never a big donor, but I wish I could have the money back that I sent them.

Originally Posted by straightsilk (Post 2555731)

IMHO, this is blatant exploitation. They play on the emotions of those of us who love our pets passionately for the purposes of fund raising and politics. To read Newkirk's article, you would think she was the only one in the US who could end a life humanely. I think there are 10s of thousands of Euthanasia Techs in the country who might disagree. The vast majority do their jobs with competence, compassion, respect and profound reverence. The life they end will never again suffer.

I was slow to understand that PETA changed, and I feel duped by them. I was never a big donor, but I wish I could have the money back that I sent them.

Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 2555753)

Since most everyone who has posted in support of this thread has backed up what they were saying with a link to an independent source, I think it would be great if those that have bad stories about peta would do the same. I am honestly interested it's just difficult to sort urban legend from fact without a source.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2555764)

People forget these facts unfortunately and the fact that PETA does what they do at dog shows, letting them out, putting antifreeze in water bowls ect... PETA does NOT support responsible/reputable breeders and would do away with us altogether and just have it to where there were no pets period.....so normally I don't get into a debate with PETA members because they believe in what they want just as much as I believe in what I do and NO ONE will change my disgust with PETA!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2555779)

I've been at the dog show where PETA pickets, has turned them loose PERSONALLY!!!!! I've attended dog shows were we've had to have security hired and put locks on our crates just so PETA members wouldn't let our dogs out....
I think that is pretty much an independent source as one can get.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2555783)

If it is true what you are saying about PETA putting antifreeze into dog bowls can you please post a link to this information? I have said before that I link to arm myself with as much information as possible and would personally be outraged if any organization including PETA was causing pain and suffering to any animals!

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2555783)

If it is true what you are saying about PETA putting antifreeze into dog bowls can you please post a link to this information? I have said before that I link to arm myself with as much information as possible and would personally be outraged if any organization including PETA was causing pain and suffering to any animals!

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2555649)

For those interested, here are the actual euthanasia stats, via the government, for 2007 for PETA; it appears the euth. rate is 22%:

VDACS Online Animal Reporting

The same data is available for 2008 (but not yet on this site, as far as I could tell) and it appears to show a euth. rate of 24%.

:):):)

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2555816)

I"ll have to find the link....but I've personally been and witnessed dogs being let out of crates and some get very ill after PETA members attended dog shows to create havoc....so I guess seeing in person kinda reaffirms my disgust in PETA!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 2555753)

Since most everyone who has posted in support of this thread has backed up what they were saying with a link to an independent source, I think it would be great if those that have bad stories about peta would do the same. I am honestly interested it's just difficult to sort urban legend from fact without a source.